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#101 Apocalypse33
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]like i said, there has never been a center like hakeem. dude is so underrated its not even funny. he is 7th in steals...7th!!! he's a freakin center. shaq never won the season, defensive and finals MVP, no one has except hakeem. No on is top 10 in points, steals, rebounds and blocks. only three other players have had a quadruple-double. has shaq even had a triple double? only player ever to have 200 steals and blocks in a season. he has accomplished a whole lot more than shaq ever did and he was waaaaaaaaay more versatile. if you were buiding a team you're telling me you'd take shaq for his scoring and reboudning over dream's scoring, rebounding, blocking and steals? lol go ahead, just make sure you have an All-Star guard to take the pressure off him. dream didn't just sit in the paint and dunk mems_1224

I'd much rather build a team around Shaq, over Hakeem. Hakeem's more versatile, and all...but stats aren't everything. Kevin Garnett is the master of the triple double, and he's never been out of the western conference finals....hell, hes seen past the first round once.

And Shaq's 4 rings >>>>>> Hakeem's 2 rings. He's accomplished more than Hakeem son, you're biased :P

has shaq ever won all three MVP's in a season? has he ever had a quadrouple double? is he top ten in points, blocks, rebounds and steals? has he ever had 200 blocks and rebounds? plus hakeem played in the MJ era, MJ took championships from alot of people.(ewing, stockton etc...) shaq is big, thats about all he's good at

Shaq played during MJ's prime....

and did he ever win a championship? no, he only won when there was no one else that could even contend for one

he got tothe finals as a rookie...

when jordan was retired and at that he lost to hakeem

but he was a rookie, of course Hakeem would beat him, and did you not read my other post?
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#102 Colt45fool
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]like i said, there has never been a center like hakeem. dude is so underrated its not even funny. he is 7th in steals...7th!!! he's a freakin center. shaq never won the season, defensive and finals MVP, no one has except hakeem. No on is top 10 in points, steals, rebounds and blocks. only three other players have had a quadruple-double. has shaq even had a triple double? only player ever to have 200 steals and blocks in a season. he has accomplished a whole lot more than shaq ever did and he was waaaaaaaaay more versatile. if you were buiding a team you're telling me you'd take shaq for his scoring and reboudning over dream's scoring, rebounding, blocking and steals? lol go ahead, just make sure you have an All-Star guard to take the pressure off him. dream didn't just sit in the paint and dunk Apocalypse33

I'd much rather build a team around Shaq, over Hakeem. Hakeem's more versatile, and all...but stats aren't everything. Kevin Garnett is the master of the triple double, and he's never been out of the western conference finals....hell, hes seen past the first round once.

And Shaq's 4 rings >>>>>> Hakeem's 2 rings. He's accomplished more than Hakeem son, you're biased :P

has shaq ever won all three MVP's in a season? has he ever had a quadrouple double? is he top ten in points, blocks, rebounds and steals? has he ever had 200 blocks and rebounds? plus hakeem played in the MJ era, MJ took championships from alot of people.(ewing, stockton etc...) shaq is big, thats about all he's good at

Shaq played during MJ's prime....

and did he ever win a championship? no, he only won when there was no one else that could even contend for one

he got tothe finals as a rookie...

when jordan was retired and at that he lost to hakeem

but he was a rookie, of course Hakeem would beat him, and did you not read my other post?

Actually, he was in his 2nd year ;)
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#103 Apocalypse33
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]like i said, there has never been a center like hakeem. dude is so underrated its not even funny. he is 7th in steals...7th!!! he's a freakin center. shaq never won the season, defensive and finals MVP, no one has except hakeem. No on is top 10 in points, steals, rebounds and blocks. only three other players have had a quadruple-double. has shaq even had a triple double? only player ever to have 200 steals and blocks in a season. he has accomplished a whole lot more than shaq ever did and he was waaaaaaaaay more versatile. if you were buiding a team you're telling me you'd take shaq for his scoring and reboudning over dream's scoring, rebounding, blocking and steals? lol go ahead, just make sure you have an All-Star guard to take the pressure off him. dream didn't just sit in the paint and dunk Colt45fool

I'd much rather build a team around Shaq, over Hakeem. Hakeem's more versatile, and all...but stats aren't everything. Kevin Garnett is the master of the triple double, and he's never been out of the western conference finals....hell, hes seen past the first round once.

And Shaq's 4 rings >>>>>> Hakeem's 2 rings. He's accomplished more than Hakeem son, you're biased :P

has shaq ever won all three MVP's in a season? has he ever had a quadrouple double? is he top ten in points, blocks, rebounds and steals? has he ever had 200 blocks and rebounds? plus hakeem played in the MJ era, MJ took championships from alot of people.(ewing, stockton etc...) shaq is big, thats about all he's good at

Shaq played during MJ's prime....

and did he ever win a championship? no, he only won when there was no one else that could even contend for one

he got tothe finals as a rookie...

when jordan was retired and at that he lost to hakeem

but he was a rookie, of course Hakeem would beat him, and did you not read my other post?

Actually, he was in his 2nd year ;)

no he was a rookie, he only played for the magic for one season and won Rookie of the Year
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#104 Orlando_Magic
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The Magic were 41-41 when Shaq was a rookie in 1992-93 and we didn't make the playoffs. Then we got the #1 pick in the draft lottery by luck after just using it to pick Shaq the last year, and we picked Chris Webber #1 overall and traded him away for Penny Hardaway. Then in 93-94 we made the playoffs with Shaq and a rookie Penny Hardaway but lost in the 1st round after going 50-32....Shaq made All-NBA Third Team behind David Robinson and Hakeem. Then in 94-95 the Magic went 57-25 and made the NBA Finals... Penny Hardaway made All-NBA First Team and Shaq made All-NBA Second Team behind David Robinson who was All NBA First Team and ahead of Hakeem who was All NBA Third Team. Then in 95-96 we went 60-22 and lost in the ECF to the Bulls team that went 72-10.... Penny Hardaway was All-NBA First Team along with MJ while Shaq was All-NBA Third Team behind David Robinson and Hakeem. Shaq played 4 years in Orlando, not one... he went to the Finals his third year. Penny made All-NBA First Team twice, Shaq never made it once.
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#105 Orlando_Magic
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People also forget that Hakeem went to the Finals in 1986 in only his second season after beating Magic Johnson's defending Champion Lakers 4-1 in the Western Conference Finals, and then took Larry Bird's Celtics to 6 games in the 1986 Finals. And that Celtics team is considered one of the greatest in NBA History.
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#106 Apocalypse33
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The Magic were 41-41 when Shaq was a rookie in 1992-93 and we didn't make the playoffs. Then we got the #1 pick in the draft lottery by luck after just using it to pick Shaq the last year, and we picked Chris Webber #1 overall and traded him away for Penny Hardaway. Then in 93-94 we made the playoffs with Shaq and a rookie Penny Hardaway but lost in the 1st round after going 50-32....Shaq made All-NBA Third Team behind David Robinson and Hakeem. Then in 94-95 the Magic went 57-25 and made the NBA Finals... Penny Hardaway made All-NBA First Team and Shaq made All-NBA Second Team behind David Robinson who was All NBA First Team and ahead of Hakeem who was All NBA Third Team. Then in 95-96 we went 60-22 and lost in the ECF to the Bulls team that went 72-10.... Penny Hardaway was All-NBA First Team along with MJ while Shaq was All-NBA Third Team behind David Robinson and Hakeem. Shaq played 4 years in Orlando, not one... he went to the Finals his third year. Penny made All-NBA First Team twice, Shaq never made it once.Orlando_Magic
oh, i could have sworn shaq was a rookie, but your stuff sounds right so alright
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#107 mems_1224
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People also forget that Hakeem went to the Finals in 1986 in only his second season after beating Magic Johnson's defending Champion Lakers 4-1 in the Western Conference Finals, and then took Larry Bird's Celtics to 6 games in the 1986 Finals. And that Celtics team is considered one of the greatest in NBA History. Orlando_Magic
f'ing owned!!!

and penny used to be that dude :(

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#108 Apocalypse33
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]People also forget that Hakeem went to the Finals in 1986 in only his second season after beating Magic Johnson's defending Champion Lakers 4-1 in the Western Conference Finals, and then took Larry Bird's Celtics to 6 games in the 1986 Finals. And that Celtics team is considered one of the greatest in NBA History. mems_1224

f'ing owned!!!

and penny used to be that dude :(

whatever happened to him?? he is only in his mid 30s, and is a free agent that no one wants last i heard
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#109 Colt45fool
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Damn, Orlando regulated :(

I still think Shaq > Hakeem.

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#110 Apocalypse33
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Damn, Orlando regulated :(

I still think Shaq > Hakeem.

Colt45fool
for real, but i know the other thing i posted about either shaq or the team that beat him is true, Shaq=that dude
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#111 mems_1224
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Damn, Orlando regulated :(

I still think Shaq > Hakeem.

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yea, but usually when you think nothing good ever comes out of it :P
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#112 Colt45fool
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Damn, Orlando regulated :(

I still think Shaq > Hakeem.

mems_1224

yea, but usually when you think nothing good ever comes out of it :P

:lol:

I would say the same for you, but I heard that you don't think at all :(

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#113 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

Damn, Orlando regulated :(

I still think Shaq > Hakeem.

Colt45fool

yea, but usually when you think nothing good ever comes out of it :P

:lol:

I would say the same for you, but I heard that you don't think at all :(

what can i say? ignorance is bliss
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#114 Colt45fool
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

Damn, Orlando regulated :(

I still think Shaq > Hakeem.

mems_1224

yea, but usually when you think nothing good ever comes out of it :P

:lol:

I would say the same for you, but I heard that you don't think at all :(

what can i say? ignorance is bliss

I love you :-*