Ready to Die vs. Reasonable Doubt vs. Illmatic vs. Liquid Swords

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#51 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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I come back and all you guys making fun of Elcamino :lol:. I was joking around at first but dude got mad like he never heard of the word "joke" :|.
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#52 elcamino72
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I come back and all you guys making fun of Elcamino :lol:. I was joking around at first but dude got mad like he never heard of the word "joke" :|.Aljosa23

Sorry.I can't hear sarcasm over the internet.

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#53 deactivated-62d35c9a221da
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^ Well that's too bad.
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#54 elcamino72
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^ Well that's too bad.
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ya it sucks doesen't it.

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#55 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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^ Well that's too bad.
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Leave it alone man, You're just making him angrier :lol:.
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#56 elcamino72
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Look i got insulted and was just definding myself. If you ment it sarcasticly you could have just said. I don't have any problems with you or this union but if you don't know me personally just please don't talk bad about me.

Back at the start. Rakim is cool but if you surveyd everyone that listens to rap I bet biggie would be considerd king of NY.

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#57 Pyro
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Ready to Die > Illmatic = Reasonable Doubt > Liquid Swords

why is Liquid Swords in here...when 36 chambers and only built 4 cuban linx are WAY better wu albums...not saying LS aint awesome...it just aint...those...

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#58 kobegill
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For one thing, you need to choose your words wisely. You should of said Biggie is the original king. Can't be king if he's dead. So really you wasn't making all that much sense.
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#59 elcamino72
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For one thing, you need to choose your words wisely. You should of said Biggie is the original king. Can't be king if he's dead. So really you wasn't making all that much sense.kobegill

Alright i'll change the way i put it. Biggie is the original and most powerful/influential king of NY. Now i would say 50 is. No matter how much i hate 5-0 he has a swagger and should be considerd king until someone more influential comes out.

But was'e'nt the original topic what album is GOAT.

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#60 kobegill
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50 ain't king of NY. He just runs it.
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#61 elcamino72
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Thats what the king does isen't it?

Alright mabey king isen't the right word.....

But IMO biggie is the best rapper out of NY ever. Mabey i haven't heard what everyone else thinks is best but i will eventually. You can't beat biggies classic songs just can't.

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#62 Pyro
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Biggie is the best to ever do it...Period.
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#63 TheBigTicket21
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36 Chambers>Illmatic>Liquid Swords>Ready to Die>Reasonable Doubt

36 Chambers consistent all the way
Illmatic consistent all the way
Liquid Swords great songs, some weak songs
Ready to Die some realgreat songs but arescattered
Reasonable Doubt, first 4 songs, best start to any album ever, falls off fast compared to the first 4.
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36 Chambers>Illmatic>Liquid Swords>Ready to Die>Reasonable Doubt

36 Chambers consistent all the way
Illmatic consistent all the way
Liquid Swords great songs, some weak songs
Ready to Die some realgreat songs but arescattered
Reasonable Doubt, first 4 songs, best start to any album ever, falls off fast compared to the first 4.TheBigTicket21

Just curious, what weak tracks do you think there are on Liquid Swords?

Just wondering cus I think the album is ill all the way through.

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#65 HaSheeSh_basic
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Ready to Die > Illmatic = Reasonable Doubt > Liquid Swords

why is Liquid Swords in here...when 36 chambers and only built 4 cuban linx are WAY better wu albums...not saying LS aint awesome...it just aint...those...

Pyro
I know this thread is about opinions and all, but when it comes to asking that question: your asscrack of an opinion is irrelevant. The album has waaay more acclaim OB4CL
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#66 HaSheeSh_basic
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[QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]36 Chambers>Illmatic>Liquid Swords>Ready to Die>Reasonable Doubt

36 Chambers consistent all the way
Illmatic consistent all the way
Liquid Swords great songs, some weak songs
Ready to Die some realgreat songs but arescattered
Reasonable Doubt, first 4 songs, best start to any album ever, falls off fast compared to the first 4.-Halftime-

Just curious, what weak tracks do you think there are on Liquid Swords?

Just wondering cus I think the album is ill all the way through.

I'm wondering the same....
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Nas = King of New York

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#68 Black-Demon
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[QUOTE="Pyro"]

Ready to Die > Illmatic = Reasonable Doubt > Liquid Swords

why is Liquid Swords in here...when 36 chambers and only built 4 cuban linx are WAY better wu albums...not saying LS aint awesome...it just aint...those...

HaSheeSh_basic

I know this thread is about opinions and all, but when it comes to asking that question: your asscrack of an opinion is irrelevant. The album has waaay more acclaim OB4CL

So? Ready To Die has more acclaim than all 3 of those albums,does that make it the best?

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#69 elcamino72
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[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"][QUOTE="Pyro"]

Ready to Die > Illmatic = Reasonable Doubt > Liquid Swords

why is Liquid Swords in here...when 36 chambers and only built 4 cuban linx are WAY better wu albums...not saying LS aint awesome...it just aint...those...

Black-Demon

I know this thread is about opinions and all, but when it comes to asking that question: your asscrack of an opinion is irrelevant. The album has waaay more acclaim OB4CL

So? Ready To Die has more acclaim than all 3 of those albums,does that make it the best?

it doesen't make it the best lyricly but it means more people have heard it and or like the album. I haven't heard many songs off the others but Ready to Die is full of original songs. (game spot wouldent let me say clasics)

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#70 Apocalypse33
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[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"][QUOTE="Pyro"]

Ready to Die > Illmatic = Reasonable Doubt > Liquid Swords

why is Liquid Swords in here...when 36 chambers and only built 4 cuban linx are WAY better wu albums...not saying LS aint awesome...it just aint...those...

elcamino72

I know this thread is about opinions and all, but when it comes to asking that question: your asscrack of an opinion is irrelevant. The album has waaay more acclaim OB4CL

So? Ready To Die has more acclaim than all 3 of those albums,does that make it the best?

it doesen't make it the best lyricly but it means more people have heard it and or like the album. I haven't heard many songs off the others but Ready to Die is full of original songs. (game spot wouldent let me say clasics)

arent all great albums full of original songs? otherwise it would be Kidz Bop.
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[QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"][QUOTE="Pyro"]

Ready to Die > Illmatic = Reasonable Doubt > Liquid Swords

why is Liquid Swords in here...when 36 chambers and only built 4 cuban linx are WAY better wu albums...not saying LS aint awesome...it just aint...those...

Apocalypse33

I know this thread is about opinions and all, but when it comes to asking that question: your asscrack of an opinion is irrelevant. The album has waaay more acclaim OB4CL

So? Ready To Die has more acclaim than all 3 of those albums,does that make it the best?

it doesen't make it the best lyricly but it means more people have heard it and or like the album. I haven't heard many songs off the others but Ready to Die is full of original songs. (game spot wouldent let me say clasics)

arent all great albums full of original songs? otherwise it would be Kidz Bop.

I thought Kidz Bop was full of original songs:roll:. Naw what i mean is it has grreat songs all throu out it

like

Juicy

Suicidal Thought

Who Shot ya

The what

I haven't heard much of the other albums but in my mind all these songs>illmatic.

Just my opinion though

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#72 Apocalypse33
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^^ Who Shot Ya want even on the original release of RD, it is a diss track (how original), Juicy is a rags to riches story (never been done before!!!!!), Suicidal Thoughts was fairly original but the concept has been explored several times. good songs though
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#73 elcamino72
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^^ Who Shot Ya want even on the original release of RD, it is a diss track (how original), Juicy is a rags to riches story (never been done before!!!!!), Suicidal Thoughts was fairly original but the concept has been explored several times. good songs thoughApocalypse33

I would have described them as classic not original but GS wont let me say Classic unless i spell it wrong, so there Clasics

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#74 elcamino72
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no way it let me say classic
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Midnight Marauders>36 Chambers>Illmatic>Critical Beatdown
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#76 Proobie44
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50 ain't king of NY. He just runs it.kobegill
I knew you were going to put that as your sig :lol:
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#77 bradleybhoy
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Midnight Marauders>36 Chambers>Illmatic>Critical BeatdownTheMastahLink

Low End Theory > Midnight Marauders :D

Rakim is the all time king of New York. He raised the bar for everyone else and that's why we had lyrical genius from the likes of Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane and all the other brilliant MCs who followed. Biggie, Nas, Jay-Z, GZA and the rest.

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#79 Balimi
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Midnight Marauders>36 Chambers>Illmatic>Critical BeatdownTheMastahLink
I was about to mention Critical Beatdown as being better than Reasonable Doubt and Liquid Swords. Midnight Marauders would be somewhere between Illmatic and it though.
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[QUOTE="TheMastahLink"]Midnight Marauders>36 Chambers>Illmatic>Critical Beatdownbradleybhoy

Low End Theory > Midnight Marauders :D

Rakim is the all time king of New York. He raised the bar for everyone else and that's why we had lyrical genius from the likes of Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane and all the other brilliant MCs who followed. Biggie, Nas, Jay-Z, GZA and the rest.

I agree with both points. Bradleyboy = That dude
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#81 bradleybhoy
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[QUOTE="TheMastahLink"]Midnight Marauders>36 Chambers>Illmatic>Critical BeatdownBalimi
I was about to mention Critical Beatdown as being better than Reasonable Doubt and Liquid Swords. Midnight Marauders would be somewhere between Illmatic and it though.

I don't really enjoy Critical Beatdown. Its in no way better than Liquid Swords or Reasonable Doubt though. What madness.

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[QUOTE="TheMastahLink"]Midnight Marauders>36 Chambers>Illmatic>Critical BeatdownBalimi
I was about to mention Critical Beatdown as being better than Reasonable Doubt and Liquid Swords. Midnight Marauders would be somewhere between Illmatic and it though.

Critical Beatdown is a dope ass album, but I would not deem the album better than Reasonable Doubt, Liquid Swords, Illmatic, or Ready to Die.
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[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]lmfao. I miss the OTB moments :lol: Clownin on newbs = classic.elcamino72

I'm still considerd new?

You werent about before this was a union, so yeah. Even if you were, it doesnt mean youre not new.
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#85 DrCoCoPiMp
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[QUOTE="HighPowered94"]1) Illmatic
T-2) Ready to Die + Reasonable Doubt
4) Liquid Swords
Apocalypse33
agree

double agree

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#86 bradleybhoy
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[QUOTE="Balimi"][QUOTE="TheMastahLink"]Midnight Marauders>36 Chambers>Illmatic>Critical BeatdownHighPowered94
I was about to mention Critical Beatdown as being better than Reasonable Doubt and Liquid Swords. Midnight Marauders would be somewhere between Illmatic and it though.

Critical Beatdown is a dope ass album, but I would not deem the album better than Reasonable Doubt, Liquid Swords, Illmatic, or Ready to Die.

Word, Critical Beatfown has grown on me BIG TIME in the past few months. I love the album now.

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Ready To Die>>>>>Illmatic>>>>>Reasonable Doubt>>>>Liquid Swords. In terms of Quality.
Reasonable Doubt>>>>>Ready To Die>>>>>Illmatic>>>>Liquid Swords. In terms of which I like better.
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#88 Proobie44
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Ready To Die>>>>>Illmatic>>>>>Reasonable Doubt>>>>Liquid Swords. In terms of Quality.
Reasonable Doubt>>>>>Ready To Die>>>>>Illmatic>>>>Liquid Swords. In terms of which I like better.Aljosa23
Agreed for quality, but your terms is obvious all of the times :P
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Ready To Die>>>>>Illmatic>>>>>Reasonable Doubt>>>>Liquid Swords. In terms of Quality.
Reasonable Doubt>>>>>Ready To Die>>>>>Illmatic>>>>Liquid Swords. In terms of which I like better.Aljosa23
your an idiot .

i like pizza the best but quality wise hamburgers are better . then in your opinion pizza is better . i hate when people do that dumb crap .

makes no damn sense g . rap is subjective g . what i like the best i feel is the best . pretty much common sense . this isnt sports.

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Ready To Die>>>>>Illmatic>>>>>Reasonable Doubt>>>>Liquid Swords. In terms of Quality.
Reasonable Doubt>>>>>Ready To Die>>>>>Illmatic>>>>Liquid Swords. In terms of which I like better.Lakersman2000

your an idiot .

i like pizza the best but quality wise hamburgers are better . then in your opinion pizza is better . i hate when people do that dumb crap .

makes no damn sense g . rap is subjective g . what i like the best i feel is the best . pretty much common sense . this isnt sports.

And you think Wu-Tang sucks. Your opinion is Irrelevant.
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#91 Orlando_Magic
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Ready To Die>>>>>Illmatic>>>>>Reasonable Doubt>>>>Liquid Swords. In terms of Quality.
Reasonable Doubt>>>>>Ready To Die>>>>>Illmatic>>>>Liquid Swords. In terms of which I like better.Lakersman2000

makes no damn sense g . rap is subjective g . what i like the best i feel is the best . pretty much common sense . this isnt sports.



Word I feel the same way. What you like the best is what you think the is the best in terms of quality too.
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#92 elcamino72
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How did this thread come back?

Oh well. I changed my mind anyway.

Illmatic>ready to die>>>>>>>>anything else.