Trends/Things you hate in Hip Hop right now.

[QUOTE="AL_GREEN"]bay area stansa_ratchet_fan

You realize the thread title is "trends/things you hate in hip hop right now" right? The Bay Area is definitely not a trend right now, or at least no more of a trend than the midwest is. As for being a "thing you hate in hip hop right now", hi hater.

Addendum: Hi Vyse.

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

The lack of intersection between the four sides (west coast, east coast, midwest, south) outside of the mainstream acts (ie Lil Wayne & Kanye & Jay Z dont count). I'd like to see more collaboration between the west and the south, similar to how the Bay and the Midwest (ie KC) have been working together for years now. Ironically the South helped put the Bay on (sup Seagram) and the Bay's one of the south's biggest supporters (sup OutKast) but there isn't much musical collaboration... this goes doubly for the other regions. When's the last time you heard a East Coast-South collaboration that wasn't in the backpacker scene? Oh yeah... never. Even the Bay and the East Coast collab more than the South and NY do... Freeway and Cormega have been ****in with us for years now.

 

The Jacka ft. Freeway - They Don't Know

IsThisIt_basic

I've posted thoroughly on this a number of times in the past, so I won't repeat it here, but I completely agree.

I think part of the problem is the homogenization (sp?) of alot of rap these days ... cross-overs are cool; making everything sound the same is not. I hate always referring to the East Coast when it comes to these problems, but they're probably the best example here. Outside of the dudes still trying to sound likes it's the 90's, most east coast beats these days sound like they're from the south anyways. Everybody from Fat Joe to Dipset seem to see some money to be made there.

And it doesn't matter what coast you listen to these days, they've got trap rappers, they've got screwed hooks, etc.

But back towards the subject of coastal collabos ... I do think the more modern version of the mixtape that's turned up over the last decade has helped a little bit on this. Swishahouse has some simply phenomenal taste in selecting beats from across the country for some of their mixtapes, and it's always interesting to hear guys like Yung Redd rapping over some 9th Wonder soul. And I was listening to Rich The Factor's latest mixtape (Rich is from KC for those of you who don't know), and he was rapping over Wale's "Pretty Girls", lol. I love hearing this kind of stuff, but I just wish they could go the extra mile and make original collabos; get Rich, Wale, and whatever Wale's producer is named together and put them in a room and see what happens.

I guess I'm just spoiled by the days of UGK showing up on Celly Cel's record, or E-40 showing up on Cool Nutz's record, etc. I want to hear T-Nutty and Z-Ro on a track together. I want to hear D-Lo and Plies. I want to hear Mouse and Ghostface Killa.

Basically.  The self-segregation of the regions is getting really old now.  Imagine a Livewire Meets Boss Hogg Outlawz/Swishahouse album.  The Jacka & Lil Keke already did one...  sadly it probably won't happen.

swag 

skinny jeans

old rappers that need to retire

and hip hop fans who support dead artists still saying they are GOAT but if they were alive now and still rapping they'd be saying "he fell off years ago" 

swag 

skinny jeans

old rappers that need to retire

and hip hop fans who support dead artists still saying they are GOAT but if they were alive now and still rapping they'd be saying "he fell off years ago" 

Andrew_is_basic

Where in thee blue HELL have you been? Lol 

rappers who spend all day whining about the state of hip-hop.TheHimura

people who think theyre educated because they listen to 'real hip hop'
people who never give rappers outside of the east and midwest love
people who think kanye is an ok rapper and an incredible producer/eminem is the best rapper/other notorious stereotypes of suburban kids who think they know something about rap music.

im not so much annoyed with rap as i am annoyed with its fans. 

swag 

skinny jeans

old rappers that need to retire

and hip hop fans who support dead artists still saying they are GOAT but if they were alive now and still rapping they'd be saying "he fell off years ago" 

Andrew_is_basic

also i like SWAG and SKINNY JEANS...ninjas stop hatin! 

[QUOTE="Andrew_is_basic"]

swag 

skinny jeans

old rappers that need to retire

and hip hop fans who support dead artists still saying they are GOAT but if they were alive now and still rapping they'd be saying "he fell off years ago" 

Colt45fool

also i like SWAG and SKINNY JEANS...ninjas stop hatin! 

If only you were darker

[QUOTE="TheHimura"]rappers who spend all day whining about the state of hip-hop.Colt45fool

people who think theyre educated because they listen to 'real hip hop'
people who never give rappers outside of the east and midwest love
people who think kanye is an ok rapper and an incredible producer/eminem is the best rapper/other notorious stereotypes of suburban kids who think they know something about rap music.

im not so much annoyed with rap as i am annoyed with its fans. 

as far as best rapper alive...i gota give it to Nas

i know he hasnt done anything recent but the fact that he did the best album ever and he is still around today i gota give it up to him

I value consistency over dropping one gem when picking a favorite artistToriko42

Pretty much reminds me of the argument Budden and Hamilton had with Slick Rick and LL Cool J lol.

LL wins by a landslide if you ask me 

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]I value consistency over dropping one gem when picking a favorite artistBlack-Demon

Pretty much reminds me of the argument Budden and Hamilton had with Slick Rick and LL Cool J lol.

LL wins by a landslide if you ask me 

LL has multiple cIassics, Slick Rick has one it only makes sense lol

I value consistency over dropping one gem when picking a favorite artistToriko42

yeah, but there's a difference between dropping one gem and dropping what is basically known as the Bible of hip-hop.

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]I value consistency over dropping one gem when picking a favorite artistTheHimura

yeah, but there's a difference between dropping one gem and dropping what is basically known as the Bible of hip-hop.

well its not like nas is inactive

his most recent work is distant relatives

and he is still gona drop lost tapes 2

[QUOTE="TheHimura"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]I value consistency over dropping one gem when picking a favorite artistToriko42

yeah, but there's a difference between dropping one gem and dropping what is basically known as the Bible of hip-hop.

Oh well then that just comes down to personal opinion. Most people think Nas has a couple cIassics under his belt. Personally I think Lost Tapes is his 2nd best behind Illmatic.

It Was Written>Illmatic>I Am...=The Lost Tapes

My favorites from Nas in order 

It Was Written>Illmatic>I Am...=The Lost Tapes

My favorites from Nas in order 

Black-Demon

[QUOTE="Andrew_is_basic"]

swag 

skinny jeans

old rappers that need to retire

and hip hop fans who support dead artists still saying they are GOAT but if they were alive now and still rapping they'd be saying "he fell off years ago" 

Black-Demon

Where in thee blue HELL have you been? Lol 

im here, more like a guardian angel, i jump in i need too. whats been good with you all? 

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="Andrew_is_basic"]

swag 

skinny jeans

old rappers that need to retire

and hip hop fans who support dead artists still saying they are GOAT but if they were alive now and still rapping they'd be saying "he fell off years ago" 

Andrew_is_basic

Where in thee blue HELL have you been? Lol 

im here, more like a guardian angel, i jump in i need too. whats been good with you all? 

Oh so you Gary Coleman now? Rofl same ol' same ol',new threads,average musack,hating wayne even though he's caking

I am and God's Son are dope, but not in the ball park of the other four Nas album worth listening toofat_rob

^^ bump the 9th wonder version dunnyfat_rob

That's a great album.

[QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

The lack of intersection between the four sides (west coast, east coast, midwest, south) outside of the mainstream acts (ie Lil Wayne & Kanye & Jay Z dont count). I'd like to see more collaboration between the west and the south, similar to how the Bay and the Midwest (ie KC) have been working together for years now. Ironically the South helped put the Bay on (sup Seagram) and the Bay's one of the south's biggest supporters (sup OutKast) but there isn't much musical collaboration... this goes doubly for the other regions. When's the last time you heard a East Coast-South collaboration that wasn't in the backpacker scene? Oh yeah... never. Even the Bay and the East Coast collab more than the South and NY do... Freeway and Cormega have been ****in with us for years now.

The Jacka ft. Freeway - They Don't Know

a_ratchet_fan

I've posted thoroughly on this a number of times in the past, so I won't repeat it here, but I completely agree.

I think part of the problem is the homogenization (sp?) of alot of rap these days ... cross-overs are cool; making everything sound the same is not. I hate always referring to the East Coast when it comes to these problems, but they're probably the best example here. Outside of the dudes still trying to sound likes it's the 90's, most east coast beats these days sound like they're from the south anyways. Everybody from Fat Joe to Dipset seem to see some money to be made there.

And it doesn't matter what coast you listen to these days, they've got trap rappers, they've got screwed hooks, etc.

But back towards the subject of coastal collabos ... I do think the more modern version of the mixtape that's turned up over the last decade has helped a little bit on this. Swishahouse has some simply phenomenal taste in selecting beats from across the country for some of their mixtapes, and it's always interesting to hear guys like Yung Redd rapping over some 9th Wonder soul. And I was listening to Rich The Factor's latest mixtape (Rich is from KC for those of you who don't know), and he was rapping over Wale's "Pretty Girls", lol. I love hearing this kind of stuff, but I just wish they could go the extra mile and make original collabos; get Rich, Wale, and whatever Wale's producer is named together and put them in a room and see what happens.

I guess I'm just spoiled by the days of UGK showing up on Celly Cel's record, or E-40 showing up on Cool Nutz's record, etc. I want to hear T-Nutty and Z-Ro on a track together. I want to hear D-Lo and Plies. I want to hear Mouse and Ghostface Killa.

Basically. The self-segregation of the regions is getting really old now. Imagine a Livewire Meets Boss Hogg Outlawz/Swishahouse album. The Jacka & Lil Keke already did one... sadly it probably won't happen.

?!?!

I guess the main thing I want to see in rap these days is just more great rappers. I mean, I think Cali pretty much nailed in a couple months back in the WAYLT thread when he said he still sees progression in rap production these days, but not rapping.

I mean, there is some flat-out phenomenal production coming out these days. The kinda stuff nobody probably could've ever dreamed about rapping over in the 90's. I'm loving what's going on with production right now. But rapping ... there's nobody out there that challenges what a rapper can be the way producers are challenging what beats can be.

What I want is rapping like what E-40 was doing in the 90's, what Pimp C was doing ... pretty much his entire career, etc. These guys actually got me excited about rap. There are only a few rappers out there I can say that about - D'lo, for example. I want rappers that are so interesting that I'd be willing to listen to crap beats just to hear what they have to say - Lil Rue comes to mind.

I'm just saying, it's a shame there are so many great beats out there that aren't getting great verses spit on them.

I wanna see more rappers look to invest in kilts. you know. like the one diddy was wearing. picture rick ross in that and tell me you dont laugh out loud.Andrew_is_basic

:lol:

[QUOTE="fat_rob"]

 

 

Swag is dope, swagger is *** as hell though. 

Black-Demon

Both sound stupid as **** to me. Swag sounds like something Michaelangelo from the ninja turtles would say. 

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

Swag is dope, swagger is *** as hell though. 

iHeartCali

Both sound stupid as **** to me. Swag sounds like something Michaelangelo from the ninja turtles would say. 

I bet Bossman doesn't even realize the hilarity of his posts. I could rip him to shreds, but I'll just link 

 

 

I bet Bossman doesn't even realize the hilarity of his posts. I could rip him to shreds, but I'll just link 

fat_rob

GET HIM THE **** OUTTA HERE

/DNA voice

So I guess these rappers with alot of "swag" got a ton of oramental draperies hanging at there crib?
:lol:
BIG-BOSSMAN