http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2010/12/topic/topic/music/preview-eminem-ft-alicia-keys-cocaine/
I forgot Em might be doing a re-release of Recovery unless there is a new album coming in 2011
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by drug addict, we mean SSLP/MMLP ... when all he talked about was murder, rapping, rape, and drugsfat_robweren't you guys complaining hearing about the same "shock" raps. At least that was something I remember reading in a lot of reviews of Relapse and stuff.
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other people were, I was complaining that em seemed to think that the shock factor was why he thought he was dope, not realizing that it was the intricateness of the word choice, flow, cadence, etc. combined with the shock factor.Â
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don't tattle brah,
Jay Electronica and J.Cole might as well quit before their albums drop....they need to stop sucking so muchDaDukiesIf cole and elect were making the music Jay, Em, and Nas make now, hell yeah them brothers should quit. Luckily, neither cole or elect come close to making anything remotely wack ... step ya analogy game up
This and Shady wasn't all about raping and killing lesbians. It was his whole don't give a **** attitude mixed with black humor and a bit of truth behind all of it. He's old and gives a **** now.Â
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other people were, I was complaining that em seemed to think that the shock factor was why he thought he was dope, not realizing that it was the intricateness of the word choice, flow, cadence, etc. combined with the shock factor.Â
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Jay Electronica and J.Cole might as well quit before their albums drop....they need to stop sucking so muchDaDukies
Wait....are you comparing Cole and Jay E's work to Nas and Jay's current work? :|
DaDukies, its not our fault you like everything, and it's our opinions, so what do you even care? go back to listening to Kid Coochie with your wannabe stoner friends thinking his simplistic rhymes actually have deep undertones and live happily ever after without reading something that disagrees with you ever again (I'm jks, but come on man, give it up). Eminem/Nas/Jay-Z either need to stick to what they're good at without alienating thier core fans that brought them notoriety in the first place or actually take risks that'll ensure thier music has sustaining quality and longevity with every release, lord knows the 3 of them can't actually pull of either, so it's time to hang it up...atleast Kanye has the right idea and he's actually making good music, something I can enjoy that isn't so forced you can literally hear the lab rats writing the formula on a white board in the background...WorstGameEverhot damn.
DaDukies, its not our fault you like everything, and it's our opinions, so what do you even care? go back to listening to Kid Coochie with your wannabe stoner friends thinking his simplistic rhymes actually have deep undertones and live happily ever after without reading something that disagrees with you ever again (I'm jks, but come on man, give it up). Eminem/Nas/Jay-Z either need to stick to what they're good at without alienating thier core fans that brought them notoriety in the first place or actually take risks that'll ensure thier music has sustaining quality and longevity with every release, lord knows the 3 of them can't actually pull of either, so it's time to hang it up...atleast Kanye has the right idea and he's actually making good music, something I can enjoy that isn't so forced you can literally hear the lab rats writing the formula on a white board in the background...WorstGameEverlol i like everything? you obviously dont know my music taste at all...and i don't really care, i just have to completely disagree if anyone says Em needs to hang it up. yeah he's had a couple semi-poppy songs with his return, but nobody here can deny the fact that he's spitting just as well, if not better, than he ever has and is helping to bring lyricism back to mainstream hip-hop. i'm also really tired of people on here bringing up Kid Cudi every time they disagree with one of my posts, when i haven't even mentioned the guy's name in months on here. It's not like I made a huge Kid Cudi thread, make new threads with every new single he releases, have him all over my avatar/sig, and think he's the greatest thing to ever happen to music (*cough* crooked i). I enjoyed Man on the Moon, so the **** what? that doesn't automatically mean your music taste is better than mine.
it's our opinions, so what do you even care?WorstGameEver
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DaDukies just proved he doesn't know **** about lyrics. Seriously, you think Em is spitting better now then he did on his first three projects? Like are you ****ing deaf? Or do you just not understand how verses are structured? Do you know the difference between simile laden verses and illustrative narrative verses? Do you realize that Em's wordplay has completely changed in every aspect? Do me a favor, listen to em's material ... in order. From SSLP to Recovery. There is no ****ing way you can do that and still think Em is spitting better NOW than he was back in his early days. Unless you're a fan of horrid verse formats, predictable punchlines, awful wordplay, distracting flows, unnecessary scream-rapping, and a complete lack of narrative. Seriously, Eminem now is EVERYTHING that is wrong with rap music. Stop acting enlightened and learn about the craft that you're supposedly a fan of ... jesus.
nobody here can deny the fact that he's spitting just as well, if not better, than he ever has and is helping to bring lyricism back to mainstream hip-hop.DaDukiesyou do realize lyricism and rhymes schemes are two completely different things right? I sure hope so
Eh, not bad ... still nothing to write home about ... the singer is dope though. Sounds like Alicia Keys mixed with Mary J.fat_robyou've never heard of her before? and lol, no alicia keys
[QUOTE="DaDukies"]nobody here can deny the fact that he's spitting just as well, if not better, than he ever has and is helping to bring lyricism back to mainstream hip-hop.WorstGameEveryou do realize lyricism and rhymes schemes are two completely different things right? I sure hope so lol, yes em's lyrics may not be as great as they were during the infinite/sslp/mmlp days, but his rhyme schemes are just as good, if not better imo. yes, its DIFFERENT (something lots of hip-hop fans are afraid of), but if you're denying the talent there then thats just insane
LMAO @ using that WACK ass song that just released last week as an example of narrative in Em's recent music. lol stop sucking at rap please thxkbyefat_rob
I kinda liked difficult, lyrically (in the rap sense it's not anything out there) but LYRICALLY :P it's heartfelt. I woulda preferred it to the track they used on Recovery.
LMAO @ using that WACK ass song that just released last week as an example of narrative in Em's recent music. lol stop sucking at rap please thxkbyefat_roblol youre right dude...cause that WACK ass song has a "complete lack of narrative" just like all of em's recent music. that was a completely horrible example of narrative in a recent eminem song :? and you heard it LAST week, before anybody else here! so impressive my b, god of rap knowledge. at first i didnt realize that your opinions should be taken as fact seriously though, chill out. youre not smarter than everybody here
[QUOTE="fat_rob"]LMAO @ using that WACK ass song that just released last week as an example of narrative in Em's recent music. lol stop sucking at rap please thxkbyeDaDukieslol youre right dude...cause that WACK ass song has a "complete lack of narrative" just like all of em's recent music. that was a completely horrible example of narrative in a recent eminem song :? and you heard it LAST week, before anybody else here! so impressive my b, god of rap knowledge. at first i didnt realize that your opinions should be taken as fact seriously though, chill out. youre not smarter than everybody herehe did graduate from an all men's college...
[QUOTE="DaDukies"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]LMAO @ using that WACK ass song that just released last week as an example of narrative in Em's recent music. lol stop sucking at rap please thxkbyeApocalypse33lol youre right dude...cause that WACK ass song has a "complete lack of narrative" just like all of em's recent music. that was a completely horrible example of narrative in a recent eminem song :? and you heard it LAST week, before anybody else here! so impressive my b, god of rap knowledge. at first i didnt realize that your opinions should be taken as fact seriously though, chill out. youre not smarter than everybody herehe did graduate from an all men's college...
Plus he knows freaking PHILOSOPHY. Dude should be running the nation by now.
Yashar, you like everything ... Mems, Colt, BD, and WGE all pointed that out already :P
I'm not smarter than everyone, just you Dukies :P
The song is god awful, not only from a narrative aspect, but even from an original meaning of lyrical (though it is about 50x more lyrical than most of his recent work). I state my opinions matter of factly because being polite and quaint on the internet is literally a waste of time, words, oxygen, brain cells, neuron signals, and cpu processes. I'm blunt like my city.
I could school you on beliefs, knowledge, opinion, and facts, but it'd too be a waste. So just read some epistemological theory of mind and stop getting butthurt cause I bluntly reject near all things you say.Â
And Philosophy >>>> all your couches
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Yashar, you like everything ... Mems, Colt, BD, and WGE all pointed that out already :P
I'm not smarter than everyone, just you Dukies :P
The song is god awful, not only from a narrative aspect, but even from an original meaning of lyrical (though it is about 50x more lyrical than most of his recent work). I state my opinions matter of factly because being polite and quaint on the internet is literally a waste of time, words, oxygen, brain cells, neuron signals, and cpu processes. I'm blunt like my city.
I could school you on beliefs, knowledge, opinion, and facts, but it'd too be a waste. So just read some epistemological theory of mind and stop getting butthurt cause I bluntly reject near all things you say.Â
And Philosophy >>>> all your couches
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Hey, my couches are actually pretty awesome. I can't sit on Plato!Â
[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^^ I don't like everything!!!! just a lot of thingsColt45foolNo you like everything.lil wayne, sleigh bells, kesha, soulja boy, wacka flocka and boosie just to name a few.
[QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^^ I don't like everything!!!! just a lot of thingsApocalypse33No you like everything.lil wayne, sleigh bells, kesha, soulja boy, wacka flocka and boosie just to name a few.sleigh bells, waka flocka, and boosie own. the latter two especially.
[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^^ I don't like everything!!!! just a lot of thingsColt45foolNo you like everything.lil wayne, sleigh bells, kesha, soulja boy, wacka flocka and boosie just to name a few.sleigh bells, waka flocka, and boosie own. the latter two especially.and you say I like everything?
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