Whats the GOAT Rap/Hip-Hop Album?

I know, i know. There have been discussions on this before. But not recently. A ton have people have joined OTB since the last discussion of this (which i think was in one of those MTV threads on the GOAT mc or whatever), and I would really like to hear what they think is the GOAT album. ****, I don't even know what some of the older members consider to be the GOAT album. And this could spark some good discussions/debates/whatever the hell we have here on OTB :P, which we have been lacking recently.

In my number 1 spot there is a tie between Liquid Swords and The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. In my number 2 spot there is a tie between Illmatic and The Blueprint.

Illmatic - http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:gifwxqwhldhe

The Blueprint - http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:wxfrxq80ldde

Liquid Swords - http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:jpfpxqyhldse

The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:gbfexqwjldfe

What is the GOAT album to you guys? And link us to some information on the album if you post, if possible. And don't post albums that are the greatest lyrically, or production wise. I mean GOAT. Not the greatest in one area. The greatest album overall. Like, Illmatic owns TMOLH lyrically, but TMOLH is greater because it beats Illmatic in every other way, IMO.

Oh and GOAT = Greatest of all time, for you who don't know :).

Black Star.TheBigTicket21

[QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]Black Star.fat_rob

Favorite hip hop album? lol, I wanna say an album, but I'm going to get flamed to no end...but my favorite has definitely changed, and is definitely unexpected.

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]Black Star.Colt45fool

Favorite hip hop album? lol, I wanna say an album, but I'm going to get flamed to no end...but my favorite has definitely changed, and is definitely unexpected.

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]Black Star.Colt45fool

Favorite hip hop album? lol, I wanna say an album, but I'm going to get flamed to no end...but my favorite has definitely changed, and is definitely unexpected.

Blackstar is ill yall.

And Colt, D'angelo albums dont count buddy. :D

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]Black Star.elpooz

Favorite hip hop album? lol, I wanna say an album, but I'm going to get flamed to no end...but my favorite has definitely changed, and is definitely unexpected.

Blackstar is ill yall.

And Colt, D'angelo albums dont count buddy. :D

Illmatic easily. No hip-hop album has recieved as much acclaim as this one.HaSheeSh_basic

Since when does how praised something is decide how good it is? It is an amazing album, one of the greatest. But your reason as to why it is, is a bit iffy :?.

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]Illmatic easily. No hip-hop album has recieved as much acclaim as this one.elpooz

Since when does how praised something is decide how good it is? It is an amazing album, one of the greatest. But your reason as to why it is, is a bit iffy :?.

[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]Illmatic easily. No hip-hop album has recieved as much acclaim as this one.HaSheeSh_basic

Since when does how praised something is decide how good it is? It is an amazing album, one of the greatest. But your reason as to why it is, is a bit iffy :?.

Favorite hip hop album? lol, I wanna say an album, but I'm going to get flamed to no end...but my favorite has definitely changed, and is definitely unexpected.

Colt45fool

can't be too suprising compared to your other obsessions like High School Musical.

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

Favorite hip hop album? lol, I wanna say an album, but I'm going to get flamed to no end...but my favorite has definitely changed, and is definitely unexpected.

Orlando_Magic

Try us..

can't be too suprising compared to your other obsessions like High School Musical.

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]Illmatic easily. No hip-hop album has recieved as much acclaim as this one.Orlando_Magic

Since when does how praised something is decide how good it is? It is an amazing album, one of the greatest. But your reason as to why it is, is a bit iffy :?.

We are not considering sales, because if so then might as well add Get Rich or Die Tryin to the mix. This is taking into consideration opinions from individuals who KNOW hip-hop. Just peep the various related hip-hop articles published or the ones posted on the net, and most will point to Illmatic being the best. I mean, just look at THIS thread...Illmatic is the leading candidate thus far.

HaSheeSh_basic

Ready to Die and Illmatic are basically neck to neck in critical acclaim anywhere. The only difference is that Ready to Die sold waaaaaay more, which makes Ready to Die more impressive than Illmatic because it backed up the critical acclaim with the ability to appeal to the people.

You'd have a point with Get Rich or Die Tryin if that album actually had critical acclaim, too bad it doesn't. I'm not only talking about sales, I'm taking about matching the critical acclaim with sales. That's hard to do in hip-hop. You can have albums like Hell Hath No Fury that are media darlings and have a lot of critical appeal, but can't sell anything. You can have albums like Please Don't Hurt Em Hammer that don't have any critical appeal, but go diamond selling 10 million. But only a select few albums can match the critical appeal with sales, and Ready to Die is one of them, while Illmatic isn't. It's as simple as that.

Either

or

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

Favorite hip hop album? lol, I wanna say an album, but I'm going to get flamed to no end...but my favorite has definitely changed, and is definitely unexpected.

Orlando_Magic

can't be too suprising compared to your other obsessions like High School Musical.

It's just one of those albums that's aged really well. "Illmatic" is great, but it doesn't have the lasting effect I'd want of my favorite hip hop album..."Ready To Die" is awesome, but idk....for me, it's just missing something...36 Chambers is dope, and has the lasting effect, but there are certain songs I don't care to listen to.

MOTU has proven to continue to be ridiculously dope to listen to over the years. It's aged really well on me, and everytime i hear it, it still feels, and sounds as good as the first time...sometimes even better. Both emcee's don't miss a beat lyrically, and while people credit the poor production, I don't find any problem with it. Outside of "Wolfman Jack" every song is certified dopeness....every beat fits the mood of the lyrics, and while no beat on the album is super complex, or amazing by any sense, they set the tone for the album, making them occasionally a highlight of the album. Some albums suffer from overproduction, or having a beat that doesn't fit the voice of the emcee....every beat on this album, while simplistic, sounds perfect for each emcee.

Technically it's not the best hip hop album, but it's my favorite

Flame on [c] Fantastic Four

I'm going to get flamed to hell if I say my album...Aljosa23

You and Colt are mad paranoid. :lol:

Lmao Colt you weren't going to get flamed,just this:

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I'm going to get flamed to hell if I say my album...elpooz

You and Colt are mad paranoid. :lol:

Lmao Colt you weren't going to get flamed,just this:

Black-Demon

Lmao Colt you weren't going to get flamed,just this:

Black-Demon

Man, you beat me to it.

Wtf. Whenever i find a good moment to use the infamous backpack pic, someone else does it. BS.

:(

[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I'm going to get flamed to hell if I say my album...Colt45fool

You and Colt are mad paranoid. :lol:

Anybody who doesn't like D'Angelo can swallow a fork,word is bond.

Lmao Colt you weren't going to get flamed,just this:

Black-Demon

Backpacker: See Constrbuz (or however you spell his name)

Ok Colt, you arent paranoid. But Al still hasn't posted his. If its The Documentary... :|

Back on subject, that album is pretty ill. Not anywhere close to being the GOAT, IMO. But its nice.

Nothing's better. Nothing.

binary star are the epitome of backpack rap.

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I'm going to get flamed to hell if I say my album...Black-Demon

You and Colt are mad paranoid. :lol:

Anybody who doesn't like D'Angelo can swallow a fork,word is bond.

High School Musical is semi understandable.

I have 2.

and

Aljosa23

lawl, those are the 1st, and 3rd best Wu albums. OB4CL is in my top 5 of favorite hip hop albums.

MOTU has proven to continue to be ridiculously dope to listen to over the years

Colt45fool

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

MOTU has proven to continue to be ridiculously dope to listen to over the years

Orlando_Magic

I still think hip hop has the potential to produce an album that surpasses MOTU as my favorite. There is so much One Be Lo, and Senim Silla could improve on, on that album, and within all 18 tracks or so, none would probably make my top 20 favorite hip hop joints.....still, it's such a sick album, definitely my favorite.

I have 2.

and

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I have 2.

and

Orlando_Magic

Black Star album >>> BOBS >>> Train of Thought

Black Star album is lyrically epic, beats are sound too, mostly nothing to fancy, just simple and clean. One of my top 5 no doubt.

Man seriously I'm gonna go with Illmatic as well. Everytime I want 100% guaranteed Hip-Hop satisfaction I put it on. Check my Illmatic blog post, I updated it with a paragraph comparing it to Ready To Die. :D

I'm suprised that no one has said RD, AEOM, or Me Against the World. No Jigga or Pac so far... strange.

/thread

:lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]Black Star.fat_rob

Favorite hip hop album? lol, I wanna say an album, but I'm going to get flamed to no end...but my favorite has definitely changed, and is definitely unexpected.

Blackstar is ill yall.

And Colt, D'angelo albums dont count buddy. :D

Mah top 5:

1. Illmatic
2. The Low End Theory
3. It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back
4. Death Certificate
5. Black Star

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]Black Star.TheBigTicket21

Favorite hip hop album? lol, I wanna say an album, but I'm going to get flamed to no end...but my favorite has definitely changed, and is definitely unexpected.

Blackstar is ill yall.

And Colt, D'angelo albums dont count buddy. :D

My top idk

1. Binary Star - "Masters of the Universe"
2. Raekwon - "Only Built For Cuban Linx"
3. Big L - "Lifest.ylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous"
4. Nas - "Illmatic"
5. Pharoahe Monch - "Internal Affairs"
6. Notorious BIG - "Ready To Die"
7. Wu-Tang Clan - "Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)"
8. Common - "Ressurection"
9. Nas - "It Was Written"
10. Jay-Z - "Reasonable Doubt"

That looks like it...I think...can't think of anything much better than those 10.