[QUOTE="majwill24"][QUOTE="Paladin_King"] If by "the last century" you mean "the last two centuries." Society didn't necessarily put that mantra into practice in the 19th century, at least not respecting education or vocation, but the idea was definitely there. I do see where you're coming from, but I recommend you raise your flame-shield. You'll find that a lot of folks don't exactly enjoy the idea of the government controlling every aspect of their personal lives/choices/hobbies. Unfortunately, authoritarianism and intense government micromanagement isn't exactly beloved around these parts.... Also, you're right, "can no longer be tolerated" does sound harsh. Dictatorial even. What does that even mean? Frankly, I don't want to find out.Paladin_King
Well, it wasnt tell last century in the States when urbanization and suburbs starting popping up and children could play and live a care free life until college. Before the big boom, many children spend a lot of time helping ther parent with choirs and work along with schooling. Sure there were rich kids and even poor ones ran around played alot, but society viewed young teens nearly the same as adults, that societal view didnt really change until after WW2.
As for the comment on toleration. I agree I dont want to find out either, so lets push for a society to implement some tougher changes so we can hope to advert the real tough choices later on
An 11 yr old is not a "young teen." Work or not, as i said, children were deemed distinct entities and the drive was definitely there to "let kids be kids." The fact that they WERE forced to work was often deemed not a very good thing and done purely for survival. Romantic poetry evidences this. Also, what do you mean "implement tougher changes?" This kid is eleven years old. Barring child labour, I'm not entirely sure how society should "toughen up," really. At least, not without the government not only stomping all over the rights of its citizens, but minors as well. As far as the "laidback, laziness" sort of issue, I do understand where you're coming from with respect to adults, but can neither agree nor promote that view with respect to children.Tougher changes like repealing the no child left behind act and review ridiculous local policies like the D for effort program. Also, why do kids need 3 months of for summer break? Change school from 9 months to 11 months. Implement harsher disciplinary actions for public schools and if parents dont like that strict environment, then they can pay money for a private school, no need for American public schools to be the laughing stock of the world especially since we spend the most per child!
From pre K all the way to 12th, schools should be a zone for learning not a BS playground where kids just can make new friends and gossip. If the students keep failing, after a certain number of failures, kick them out and let the parents foot the bill for a private school. I'm sure parents would take a more serious effort to encourage their 13 year old if they are forced to pay for a private school. I don't like the concept that private schools are where kids can get a real education and public schools are suppose to be garbage.
As for the 11 year old, well if he had taken a more serious major, then his education would just be starting. Taking CE or EE means 6 more years of school after college not to mention it would help with the help serious engineering shortage in America.
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