12 Year Old Genius Expands Einstein's Theory of Relativity, and has a higher IQ

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12-Year-Old Genius Expands Einstein's Theory of Relativity, Thinks He Can Prove It Wrong

Could Einstein's Theory of Relativity be a few mathematical equations away from being disproved? Jacob Barnett of Hamilton County, Ind., who is just weeks shy of his 13thbirthday, thinks so. And, he's got the solutions to prove it.

Barnett, who has an IQ of 170, explained his expanded theory of relativity — in a YouTube video. His mother Kristine Barnett,who admittedly flunked math, did what every other mother would do if her genius son started talking mathematical gibberish. She told him to explain the whole thing slowly whileshe taped her son explaining his take on the theory.

Jake Barnett

While most of his mathematical genius goes over our heads, some professors at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey — you know, the U.S. academic homeroom for the likes of Albert Einstein, J. Robert Oppenheimer, andKurt Gödel — have confirmed he's on the right track to coming up with something completely new. For now, they're encouragingBarnett to continue doing what he likes to do, which is explaining calculus using a whiteboard marker and his living room windows as seen in the video above.

"I'm impressed by his interest in physics and the amount that he has learned so far," Institute for Advanced Study Professor Scott Tremainewrote in an email to the family. "The theory that he's working on involves several of the toughest problems in astrophysics and theoretical physics."

"Anyone who solves these will be in line for a Nobel Prize," he added.

Barnett's parents knew that there was something different with their son when he didn't speak until the age of two. He was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, a mild form of autism, so they thought he might have problems in school. Instead, they were astounded when he started solving 5,000 piece puzzles by the age of 3. The 12-year-old taught himself calculus, algebra and geometry in two weeks, and can solve up to 200 numbers of Pi. He left high school at the ripe old age of eight and has been attending college-level advanced astrophysics ****s ever since.

Right now, Barnett is being recruited by Indiana University - Purdue University Indianapolis for a paid research position. We figure he'll find a way to pencil that in between dating his girlfriend and playingHalo: Reach, one of his favorite video games. Yes, he can play ****cal music by memory on the piano, but he also enjoys watching shows on the Disney Channel and sci-fi movies. In many ways, he's your typical 12-year-old boy.

Einstein was 26 when he first published his Theory of Relativity. We figure that Jake has a couple of years to kick back and relax before he finally debunks the big bang theory.

"I'm still working on that," he said. "I have an idea, but… I'm still working out the details."

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Old news is old, but cool nonetheless.
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"Dating his girlfriend..." Lol? Good for him. I would not want to be in college at the age of 12 though.

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I taught him everything he knows.

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Calculus in 2 weeks??! I'm having trouble with it right now!

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He is a bit young... :shock:
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I love how the media blows this kid way out of proportion. A "paid research position" is something every serious science undergrad does so it's not like "OMG he's already learned everything that can be taught!!1" Furthermore, thanks to child labor laws it's unlikely he'll be doing much significant work in the lab since not only do you have to put in long hours to make any serious headway on a project (it hasn't been uncommon for me to pull 40-70 hour work weeks on top of school or over holiday breaks like Thanksgiving) but you also find yourself working around a lot of dangerous stuff that children simply aren't allowed near (and the stuff that isn't dangerous is still usually too expensive to be letting a 12 year old handle). Ignoring all of that though, I have a hard time believing he's on track to disproving special relativity considering what he's said on the matter already. He's got a LOT of fundamental misunderstandings about the subject matter that even a layman passingly familiar with physics would know are wrong.
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Don't really care if he proves Einstein wrong or not. Someone as smart as this kid should be inventing one of the following:

Practical flying car, jetpack, and/or personal hovercraft.

Pill that lets you eat all you want and lose weight without excersizing.

Technique to make puppies and kittens never grow into adult dogs and cats.

Warp drive.

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Technique to make puppies and kittens never grow into adult dogs and cats.aransom
That one's been done already, actually. You can even do it in humans although it's more about stopping growth than aging.
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and playing Halo: Reach, one of his favorite video games.

Blazerdt47

I'm so tempted to post this in SW, since PC elitists so constantly claim that only morons play console games.

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Einstein's IQ isn't known.
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

and playing Halo: Reach, one of his favorite video games.

svenus97

I'm so tempted to post this in SW, since PC elitists so constantly claim that only morons play console games.

Lol that would definitely get the hermits enraged. Do it. :P

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I wonder why all young geniuses go into physics instead of medical science.

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Einstein's IQ isn't known.Theokhoth

That's what I was thinking.

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[QUOTE="svenus97"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

and playing Halo: Reach, one of his favorite video games.

Blazerdt47

I'm so tempted to post this in SW, since PC elitists so constantly claim that only morons play console games.

Lol that would definitely get the hermits enraged. Do it. :P

that would bee SO GOOD!

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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

and playing Halo: Reach, one of his favorite video games.

svenus97

I'm so tempted to post this in SW, since PC elitists so constantly claim that only morons play console games.

Erm, where have you seen people say that? You should post it anyway and see what happens.

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I love how the media blows this kid way out of proportion. A "paid research position" is something every serious science undergrad does so it's not like "OMG he's already learned everything that can be taught!!1" Furthermore, thanks to child labor laws it's unlikely he'll be doing much significant work in the lab since not only do you have to put in long hours to make any serious headway on a project (it hasn't been uncommon for me to pull 40-70 hour work weeks on top of school or over holiday breaks like Thanksgiving) but you also find yourself working around a lot of dangerous stuff that children simply aren't allowed near (and the stuff that isn't dangerous is still usually too expensive to be letting a 12 year old handle). Ignoring all of that though, I have a hard time believing he's on track to disproving special relativity considering what he's said on the matter already. He's got a LOT of fundamental misunderstandings about the subject matter that even a layman passingly familiar with physics would know are wrong.gameguy6700

Finally, someone who doesn't just jump on the bandwagon. I think he's going to fail at what he's doing.

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Take that Asia!
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I wonder why all young geniuses go into physics instead of medical science.

Espada12
These young geniuses normally have some forms of autism which tends to confer advanced mathematical abilities, and seeing as how physics is a lot more mathematical than the medical sciences then you can see why these precocious talents tend to go into physics. Also the more mathematics, the less experimentation which prebuscents aren't really equipped to do.
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]I love how the media blows this kid way out of proportion. A "paid research position" is something every serious science undergrad does so it's not like "OMG he's already learned everything that can be taught!!1" Furthermore, thanks to child labor laws it's unlikely he'll be doing much significant work in the lab since not only do you have to put in long hours to make any serious headway on a project (it hasn't been uncommon for me to pull 40-70 hour work weeks on top of school or over holiday breaks like Thanksgiving) but you also find yourself working around a lot of dangerous stuff that children simply aren't allowed near (and the stuff that isn't dangerous is still usually too expensive to be letting a 12 year old handle). Ignoring all of that though, I have a hard time believing he's on track to disproving special relativity considering what he's said on the matter already. He's got a LOT of fundamental misunderstandings about the subject matter that even a layman passingly familiar with physics would know are wrong.

Are there any videos of him talking about either of Einstein's theories of relativity?
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Well... By age 20 he'll know everything!
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]I love how the media blows this kid way out of proportion. A "paid research position" is something every serious science undergrad does so it's not like "OMG he's already learned everything that can be taught!!1" Furthermore, thanks to child labor laws it's unlikely he'll be doing much significant work in the lab since not only do you have to put in long hours to make any serious headway on a project (it hasn't been uncommon for me to pull 40-70 hour work weeks on top of school or over holiday breaks like Thanksgiving) but you also find yourself working around a lot of dangerous stuff that children simply aren't allowed near (and the stuff that isn't dangerous is still usually too expensive to be letting a 12 year old handle). Ignoring all of that though, I have a hard time believing he's on track to disproving special relativity considering what he's said on the matter already. He's got a LOT of fundamental misunderstandings about the subject matter that even a layman passingly familiar with physics would know are wrong.BluRayHiDef

Finally, someone who doesn't just jump on the bandwagon. I think he's going to fail at what he's doing.

Ya'll just jealous.

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[QUOTE="aransom"]Technique to make puppies and kittens never grow into adult dogs and cats.gameguy6700
That one's been done already, actually. You can even do it in humans although it's more about stopping growth than aging.

Then why aren't they selling it? I think there would be a high demand.

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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]I love how the media blows this kid way out of proportion. A "paid research position" is something every serious science undergrad does so it's not like "OMG he's already learned everything that can be taught!!1" Furthermore, thanks to child labor laws it's unlikely he'll be doing much significant work in the lab since not only do you have to put in long hours to make any serious headway on a project (it hasn't been uncommon for me to pull 40-70 hour work weeks on top of school or over holiday breaks like Thanksgiving) but you also find yourself working around a lot of dangerous stuff that children simply aren't allowed near (and the stuff that isn't dangerous is still usually too expensive to be letting a 12 year old handle). Ignoring all of that though, I have a hard time believing he's on track to disproving special relativity considering what he's said on the matter already. He's got a LOT of fundamental misunderstandings about the subject matter that even a layman passingly familiar with physics would know are wrong.BluRayHiDef

Finally, someone who doesn't just jump on the bandwagon. I think he's going to fail at what he's doing.

Hahahahaha. Congratulations, this is one of the most pathetically bitter posts i've ever seen.

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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]I love how the media blows this kid way out of proportion. A "paid research position" is something every serious science undergrad does so it's not like "OMG he's already learned everything that can be taught!!1" Furthermore, thanks to child labor laws it's unlikely he'll be doing much significant work in the lab since not only do you have to put in long hours to make any serious headway on a project (it hasn't been uncommon for me to pull 40-70 hour work weeks on top of school or over holiday breaks like Thanksgiving) but you also find yourself working around a lot of dangerous stuff that children simply aren't allowed near (and the stuff that isn't dangerous is still usually too expensive to be letting a 12 year old handle). Ignoring all of that though, I have a hard time believing he's on track to disproving special relativity considering what he's said on the matter already. He's got a LOT of fundamental misunderstandings about the subject matter that even a layman passingly familiar with physics would know are wrong.BluRayHiDef

Finally, someone who doesn't just jump on the bandwagon. I think he's going to fail at what he's doing.

He's teaching integration by parts in one of his videos. He clearly understands whats going on. I didn't learn that until second semester of university when I was 18. That kid will be successful in whatever he does.
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]I love how the media blows this kid way out of proportion. A "paid research position" is something every serious science undergrad does so it's not like "OMG he's already learned everything that can be taught!!1" Furthermore, thanks to child labor laws it's unlikely he'll be doing much significant work in the lab since not only do you have to put in long hours to make any serious headway on a project (it hasn't been uncommon for me to pull 40-70 hour work weeks on top of school or over holiday breaks like Thanksgiving) but you also find yourself working around a lot of dangerous stuff that children simply aren't allowed near (and the stuff that isn't dangerous is still usually too expensive to be letting a 12 year old handle). Ignoring all of that though, I have a hard time believing he's on track to disproving special relativity considering what he's said on the matter already. He's got a LOT of fundamental misunderstandings about the subject matter that even a layman passingly familiar with physics would know are wrong.PS2_ROCKS

Finally, someone who doesn't just jump on the bandwagon. I think he's going to fail at what he's doing.

He's teaching integration by parts in one of his videos. He clearly understands whats going on. I didn't learn that until second semester of university when I was 18. That kid will be successful in whatever he does.

I'm not saying that he isn't smart for his age. However, performing formulaic calculations by following a predefined set of steps and operations does not necessarily imply that he's capable of understanding the abstract concepts behind them or the abstract concepts behind higher level material such as Quantom Physics, etc. Until I see a video of him explaining his theory and until I have corroboration from members of some renowned Physics organization, I won't be jumping onto the bandwagon. Every year or so, you hear about some kid who's supposedly extremely smart and is the next Einstein, then you stop hearing about them in a few months. I swear that there was a story about some British kid, sometime last year, who supposedly had an extremely high IQ. Where's he now? This kid will just fade out of the spotlight, soon enough. He will never disprove Einstein. He WILL fail.

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Finally, someone who doesn't just jump on the bandwagon. I think he's going to fail at what he's doing.

BluRayHiDef

He's teaching integration by parts in one of his videos. He clearly understands whats going on. I didn't learn that until second semester of university when I was 18. That kid will be successful in whatever he does.

I'm not saying that he isn't smart for his age. However, performing formulaic calculations by following a predefined set of steps and operations does not necessarily imply that he's capable of understanding the abstract concepts behind them or the abstract concepts behind higher level material such as Quantom Physics, etc. Until I see a video of him explaining his theory and until I have corroboration from members of some renowned Physics organization, I won't be jumping onto the bandwagon. Every year or so, you hear about some kid who's supposedly extremely smart and is the next Einstein, then you stop hearing about them in a few months. I swear that there was a story about some British kid, sometime last year, who supposedly had an extremely high IQ. Where's he now? This kid will just fade out of the spotlight, soon enough. He will never disprove Einstein. He WILL fail.

Why so serious?

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Right now all we need to do is find Leonard, Raaaj, wolowitz and a hot chick called penny and we'll have our real life Big Bang Theory

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Troll with an ego up his rectum.

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Old news, still amazing though. I personally don't like the general relativity theory because it is using time as a measurement where it can be maniputated. I still don't believe in time manipuation or what not. Light speed can be manipulated from the implication of the theory, but, that doesn't mean time can be manipulated as result. Anyway, if he can find the cause of gravity and a theoratical solution for countering it, would be really benificial.magicalclick
What exactly do you mean by 'time manipulation'? Do you mean the time dilation effects of gravitational masses?
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]I love how the media blows this kid way out of proportion. A "paid research position" is something every serious science undergrad does so it's not like "OMG he's already learned everything that can be taught!!1" Furthermore, thanks to child labor laws it's unlikely he'll be doing much significant work in the lab since not only do you have to put in long hours to make any serious headway on a project (it hasn't been uncommon for me to pull 40-70 hour work weeks on top of school or over holiday breaks like Thanksgiving) but you also find yourself working around a lot of dangerous stuff that children simply aren't allowed near (and the stuff that isn't dangerous is still usually too expensive to be letting a 12 year old handle). Ignoring all of that though, I have a hard time believing he's on track to disproving special relativity considering what he's said on the matter already. He's got a LOT of fundamental misunderstandings about the subject matter that even a layman passingly familiar with physics would know are wrong.Jolt_counter119

Finally, someone who doesn't just jump on the bandwagon. I think he's going to fail at what he's doing.

Hahahahaha. Congratulations, this is one of the most pathetically bitter posts i've ever seen.

His post is perfectly reasonable. When a 12-year-old - or indeed anyone else, no matter how intelligent - claims to have debunked the big bang theory and improved special relativity, they should be regarded with great suspicion until they can prove it.
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="aransom"]Technique to make puppies and kittens never grow into adult dogs and cats.aransom

That one's been done already, actually. You can even do it in humans although it's more about stopping growth than aging.

Then why aren't they selling it? I think there would be a high demand.

Animal rights activist and anti-GE people would be all over that. Just because it can be done doesnt mean that it should be done.
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I would like to know what religion he is. That would start up a $***storm of epic proportions if he was atheist. Or theist or that matter.
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Animal rights activist and anti-GE people would be all over that. Just because it can be done doesnt mean that it should be done. Iantheone
Not to mention it is likely very expensive.

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[QUOTE="Iantheone"]Animal rights activist and anti-GE people would be all over that. Just because it can be done doesnt mean that it should be done. nintendofreak_2

Not to mention it is likely very expensive.

People would pay for it though, no doubt about that.
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"We figure that Jake has a couple of years to kick back and relax before he finally debunks the big bang theory." It was a good read until this.
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"We figure that Jake has a couple of years to kick back and relax before he finally debunks the big bang theory." It was a good read until this.Big_Bad_Sad

He will NOT debunk the theory. He WILL fail.

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[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Finally, someone who doesn't just jump on the bandwagon. I think he's going to fail at what he's doing.

BluRayHiDef

He's teaching integration by parts in one of his videos. He clearly understands whats going on. I didn't learn that until second semester of university when I was 18. That kid will be successful in whatever he does.

I'm not saying that he isn't smart for his age. However, performing formulaic calculations by following a predefined set of steps and operations does not necessarily imply that he's capable of understanding the abstract concepts behind them or the abstract concepts behind higher level material such as Quantom Physics, etc. Until I see a video of him explaining his theory and until I have corroboration from members of some renowned Physics organization, I won't be jumping onto the bandwagon. Every year or so, you hear about some kid who's supposedly extremely smart and is the next Einstein, then you stop hearing about them in a few months. I swear that there was a story about some British kid, sometime last year, who supposedly had an extremely high IQ. Where's he now? This kid will just fade out of the spotlight, soon enough. He will never disprove Einstein. He WILL fail.

This. Science is more than just the math behind it. I may know how university-level calculus, but that won't help me get anywhere if I don't understand the fundamental principles on why the math works.

Also, calculus of this level isn't particularly hard. I learned the basics of integration in Gr.11, and integration by parts this year in Gr. 12. I'm pretty sure some of my friends learned it earlier too.

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[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]"We figure that Jake has a couple of years to kick back and relax before he finally debunks the big bang theory." It was a good read until this.BluRayHiDef

He will NOT debunk the theory. He WILL fail.

Dawg, you need to go out and have a good time to flush away all those negative thoughts.

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#41 Big_Bad_Sad
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[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]"We figure that Jake has a couple of years to kick back and relax before he finally debunks the big bang theory." It was a good read until this.BluRayHiDef

He will NOT debunk the theory. He WILL fail.

As soon as I read it the first thought was that his parents are religious.
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#42 england2010
Member since 2006 • 176 Posts

this kid is a threat to humanity, his future children will take over the world breeding a new species of intelligent humans and 99% of current humans will die due to natural selection

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#43 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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Einstein's IQ isn't known.Theokhoth

Don't know why people put so much emphasis on IQ. Pretty sure there was some poet or playwright with an IQ of 215 or so. She didn't make the world implode by figuring out how to divide by zero.

Also James Woods apparently has an IQ of over 180......

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#44 rcignoni
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

and playing Halo: Reach, one of his favorite video games.

svenus97

I'm so tempted to post this in SW, since PC elitists so constantly claim that only morons play console games.

I was admittedly disappointed when I read that.

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#45 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Einstein's IQ isn't known.October_Tide

Don't know why people put so much emphasis on IQ. Pretty sure there was some poet or playwright with an IQ of 215 or so. She didn't make the world implode by figuring out how to divide by zero.

Also James Woods apparently has an IQ of over 180......

IQ is also age dependant. A 12 year old with the exact same answers as a 50 year old would score higher, simply because they're younger.

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#46 Dante2710
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I'm not saying that he isn't smart for his age. However, performing formulaic calculations by following a predefined set of steps and operations does not necessarily imply that he's capable of understanding the abstract concepts behind them or the abstract concepts behind higher level material such as Quantom Physics, etc. Until I see a video of him explaining his theory and until I have corroboration from members of some renowned Physics organization, I won't be jumping onto the bandwagon. Every year or so, you hear about some kid who's supposedly extremely smart and is the next Einstein, then you stop hearing about them in a few months. I swear that there was a story about some British kid, sometime last year, who supposedly had an extremely high IQ. Where's he now? This kid will just fade out of the spotlight, soon enough. He will never disprove Einstein. He WILL fail.

BluRayHiDef

He derivded the formula for integration by parts, while this isnt the a hard problem(for some)he is already showing problem solving skills by using direct proof method(this is already higher level matherial). This is quite impressive, specially how he uses mathematical terms correctly. For someone who is 12, this is quite amazing and he has plenty of time to accomplish whatever his goal is.

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#47 imaps3fanboy
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Is it racist that I thought the kid was going to be asian before I came into this thread? Not really racist, but more of a compliment, but still.
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#48 ghoklebutter
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And here I am learning about integration by parts in college. ._.
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#49 AceofTrades
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He's not going to disprove ****.
To hell with media hype.

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#50 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="October_Tide"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Einstein's IQ isn't known.Nibroc420

Don't know why people put so much emphasis on IQ. Pretty sure there was some poet or playwright with an IQ of 215 or so. She didn't make the world implode by figuring out how to divide by zero.

Also James Woods apparently has an IQ of over 180......

IQ is also age dependant. A 12 year old with the exact same answers as a 50 year old would score higher, simply because they're younger.

Well, that makes me feel bad about my 140 IQ considering I took the test when I was 7:P