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#51 Master_Live

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Also, read somewhere that compare to other themes like the Holocaust or the Vietnam War, slavery is more unexplored. So that is that.

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The movie is a remake of a film called "Half Slave Half Free" I have it on vhs. A true story of a free man kidnaped into slavery. He was a violinist from New York sent to play in Washinton and then kidnapped by slavers and sent down south.

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#53 foxhound_fox

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Looks like a drama I actually would like to see in theaters.

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#54 foxhound_fox

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The movie is a remake of a film called "Half Slave Half Free" I have it on vhs. A true story of a free man kidnaped into slavery. He was a violinist from New York sent to play in Washinton and then kidnapped by slavers and sent down south.
Kage1

And? Everything coming out of Hollywood these days is a remake.

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#55 00-Riddick-00

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Flubbbs"]
lol looks like another garbage anti white movie.. news flash: blacks sold their own people as slaves and white people have also been enslaved. get over it
Diablo-B

wut

Wow. White folk really get uneasy when you remind them of their history.

And blacks seemingly hate it when you remind them that it was their fellow blacks that sold them into slavery to begin with. :roll:

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#56 RedEyedMonster8

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[QUOTE="Diablo-B"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]wut00-Riddick-00

Wow. White folk really get uneasy when you remind them of their history.

And blacks seemingly hate it when you remind them that it was their fellow blacks that sold them into slavery to begin with. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Diablo-B"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]wut00-Riddick-00

Wow. White folk really get uneasy when you remind them of their history.

And blacks seemingly hate it when you remind them that it was their fellow blacks that sold them into slavery to begin with. :roll:

Interesting way to justify slavery...

Did you forget that slavers also captured Africans along the coasts?

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#58 foxhound_fox

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Interesting way to justify slavery...
Did you forget that slavers also captured Africans along the coasts?
Jagged3dge

Pointing something odd out = justifying slavery Yep. Totally.

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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]
Interesting way to justify slavery...
Did you forget that slavers also captured Africans along the coasts?
foxhound_fox

Pointing something odd out = justifying slavery Yep. Totally.

I've seen apologists here with similar motives, can't be too sure

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#60 RedEyedMonster8

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This thread contains pretty much exactly the kinds of responses that I expected from OT. As for the film, all I have to say is that it looks fantastic, I haven't seen any of McQueens films yet but I need to get on that.

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#61 deactivated-5b1e62582e305

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The movie is a remake of a film called "Half Slave Half Free" I have it on vhs. A true story of a free man kidnaped into slavery. He was a violinist from New York sent to play in Washinton and then kidnapped by slavers and sent down south.
Kage1

It's not a remake of anything. It's an adaptation on the autobiography of Solomon Northup called "Twelve Years A Slave".

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i love the subject of the movie such an interesting topic. i wonder how in depth race relations will be covered, nd hopefully its not another "american dream" type movie to brainwash the masses

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[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]
lol looks like another garbage anti white movie.. news flash: blacks sold their own people as slaves and white people have also been enslaved. get over it
hartsickdiscipl

This kind of criticism of film (and storytelling in general) is stupid when it comes from feminists, stupid when it comes from "pro-blacks" and stupid when it comes from "pro-whites". Portraying an individual in a story as something doesn't mean you're commenting on whatever group that character is a part of. The only people who level these kinds of critiques are people who have no idea just how it is that creative people actually create.

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#64 00-Riddick-00

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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"][QUOTE="Diablo-B"] Where in the hell did I justify slavery?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]
Interesting way to justify slavery...
Did you forget that slavers also captured Africans along the coasts?
Jagged3dge

Pointing something odd out = justifying slavery Yep. Totally.

I've seen apologists here with similar motives, can't be too sure

Generalize much?

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#65 deactivated-5b1e62582e305

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]
lol looks like another garbage anti white movie.. news flash: blacks sold their own people as slaves and white people have also been enslaved. get over it
Rhazakna

This kind of criticism of film (and storytelling in general) is stupid when it comes from feminists, stupid when it comes from "pro-blacks" and stupid when it comes from "pro-whites". Portraying an individual in a story as something doesn't mean you're commenting on whatever group that character is a part of. The only people who level these kinds of critiques are people who have no idea just how it is that creative people actually create.

Especially considering in this film a lot of the white and black actors do a lot of despicable things but they're still presented as completely normal people from the time period albeit flawed just like anyone else is.

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Meh I watched 42 recently, not interested in watching another white guilt movie for a while :P

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#67 MacBoomStick

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I dont see why people are complaining about this movie without having seen it. I havn't either by the way but I am speculating about it. They are saying it is some white guilt movie. You really think that a high quality movie with excellent writing would stoop so low as to try to make white people feel bad about themselves?

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#68 thebest31406

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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]
Interesting way to justify slavery...
Did you forget that slavers also captured Africans along the coasts?
foxhound_fox

Pointing something odd out = justifying slavery Yep. Totally.

Now that you mention it, what is the point of pointing that out exactly?

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]
Interesting way to justify slavery...
Did you forget that slavers also captured Africans along the coasts?
thebest31406

Pointing something odd out = justifying slavery Yep. Totally.

Now that you mention it, what is the point of pointing that out exactly?

Because there are some people who are stupid enough to think that whites were the first people to enslave Africans. Hell, I've actually encountered someone who believed white people invented slavery.

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#70 foxhound_fox

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Now that you mention it, what is the point of pointing that out exactly?thebest31406

Because the general belief is that whites took slaves from Africa when in reality it was African warlords selling their own people into slavery to the whites?

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#71 thebest31406

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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Pointing something odd out = justifying slavery Yep. Totally.Rhazakna

Now that you mention it, what is the point of pointing that out exactly?

Because there are some people who are stupid enough to think that whites were the first people to enslave Africans. Hell, I've actually encountered someone who believed white people invented slavery.

Yeah but how does that pertain to the film at all? It's just a random fact which has no baring on events that took place within the film.

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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Now that you mention it, what is the point of pointing that out exactly?

Because there are some people who are stupid enough to think that whites were the first people to enslave Africans. Hell, I've actually encountered someone who believed white people invented slavery.

Yeah but how does that pertain to the film at all? It's just a random interjection which has no baring on events that took place within the film.

The guy who first mentioned it is an oversensitive twit who thinks that portraying African slavery in the US is anti-white, so he mentioned that to spread the blame around, as it were.

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This thread contains pretty much exactly the kinds of responses that I expected from OT. As for the film, all I have to say is that it looks fantastic, I haven't seen any of McQueens films yet but I need to get on that.
RedEyedMonster8

Yeah. Can't have a thread involving race without all the usual stupidity.

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#74 deactivated-5b1e62582e305

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Yeah. Can't have a thread involving race without all the usual stupidity.
GreySeal9

It's not even a thread involving race, it's about a film.

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#75 thebest31406

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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] Because there are some people who are stupid enough to think that whites were the first people to enslave Africans. Hell, I've actually encountered someone who believed white people invented slavery.

Yeah but how does that pertain to the film at all? It's just a random interjection which has no baring on events that took place within the film.

The guy who first mentioned it is an oversensitive twit who thinks that portraying African slavery in the US is anti-white, so he mentioned that to spread the blame around, as it were.

Exactly.

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
Yeah. Can't have a thread involving race without all the usual stupidity.
Aljosa23

It's not even a thread involving race, it's about a film.

The film involves race, but I agree with what you're saying.

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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]
Looks like McQueen will no longer be a hypocrite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG4ytB4z-WE
SaintLeonidas

...he has previously directed two films. And one of them was a TRUE STORY based on a WHITE Irish IRA member. So yeah, not casting that ONE other film with a black actor totally makes him a hypocrite...

Not to mention he obv created a professional bond w/ Fassbender

These dudes are gonna be like Depp and Burton except good

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#78 thebest31406

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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]
[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]
Looks like McQueen will no longer be a hypocrite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG4ytB4z-WE
Jazz_Fan

...he has previously directed two films. And one of them was a TRUE STORY based on a WHITE Irish IRA member. So yeah, not casting that ONE other film with a black actor totally makes him a hypocrite...

Not to mention he obv created a professional bond w/ Fassbender

These dudes are gonna be like Depp and Burton except good

Indeed. And yeah, the guy only did two films so classifying him as a hypocrite is a bit unwarranted. In fact, in the case of Shame, McQueen cast Nicole Beharie, a Black woman, to play a significant role in the film.

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