2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner: Barack Obama

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]Wow. It seems like Obama was caught off guard too. :P I don't know who else was considered, but at the very least it's nice to recognize Obama's efforts rebrand American relations abroad. Though the move appears to be very political on the committee's part.Shame-usBlackley

A Chinese dissident and an Afghan Women's Rights activist were among those not awarded the prize.

Nobel Peace Prize is a farce anyway.

I would rather a world with Obama as President than without. However I disagree in him winning. I think it's pandering to the masses and personally I think it's disgraceful. He hasn't done anything yet. People in Israel, Palestine and the rest of the middle east are still dying. His own soldiers are being killed, he had to give another 40,000 troops to improve the coalitions chances of success in Afghanistan. I'm not saying he could solve all this, but suggesting his left a legacy after 10 months is just beyond belief. Maybe he will maybe he won't.

Also if they think it was his election that deserves a Nobel Peace Prize then it shouldn't be given to him. It should be given to all those that made his election possible. He ran a good campaign, his a good politician, but that wasn't why he was elected. It was soceities advancement in the field of civil rights that allowed a black american to become president in a country that only won civil rights 40 years ago.

I would rather a world with Obama as President than without. However I disagree in him winning. I think it's pandering to the masses and personally I think it's disgraceful. He hasn't done anything yet. People in Israel, Palestine and the rest of the middle east are still dying. His own soldiers are being killed, he had to give another 40,000 troops to improve the coalitions chances of success in Afghanistan. I'm not saying he could solve all this, but suggesting his left a legacy after 10 months is just beyond belief. Maybe he will maybe he won't.

Also if they think it was his election that deserves a Nobel Peace Prize then it shouldn't be given to him. It should be given to all those that made his election possible. He ran a good campaign, his a good politician, but that wasn't why he was elected. It was soceities advancement in the field of civil rights that allowed a black american to become president in a country that only won civil rights 40 years ago.

tomo90

The inference of, "You're black and you became president, here's an award" is equally as racist and condescending as NOT giving him the award because he is black.

What?

What the **** has he done to deserve this award?

****ing Gandhi didn't get a Nobel Peace Prize!

I'm not saying Obama hasn't done anything, but he sure as black hell does not deserve a Nobel Peace prize for what he has done. This is asinine.

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

I would rather a world with Obama as President than without. However I disagree in him winning. I think it's pandering to the masses and personally I think it's disgraceful. He hasn't done anything yet. People in Israel, Palestine and the rest of the middle east are still dying. His own soldiers are being killed, he had to give another 40,000 troops to improve the coalitions chances of success in Afghanistan. I'm not saying he could solve all this, but suggesting his left a legacy after 10 months is just beyond belief. Maybe he will maybe he won't.

Also if they think it was his election that deserves a Nobel Peace Prize then it shouldn't be given to him. It should be given to all those that made his election possible. He ran a good campaign, his a good politician, but that wasn't why he was elected. It was soceities advancement in the field of civil rights that allowed a black american to become president in a country that only won civil rights 40 years ago.

The inference of, "You're black and you became president, here's an award" is equally as racist and condescending as NOT giving him the award because he is black.

He just said he doesnt think he deserves it. Tjeremiah1988

He just said he doesnt think he deserves it. Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]He just said he doesnt think he deserves it. Theokhoth

OMG Obama is finally right about something!

But in all seriousness, of course he still accepts it. :roll:

He just said he doesnt think he deserves it. Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

I would rather a world with Obama as President than without. However I disagree in him winning. I think it's pandering to the masses and personally I think it's disgraceful. He hasn't done anything yet. People in Israel, Palestine and the rest of the middle east are still dying. His own soldiers are being killed, he had to give another 40,000 troops to improve the coalitions chances of success in Afghanistan. I'm not saying he could solve all this, but suggesting his left a legacy after 10 months is just beyond belief. Maybe he will maybe he won't.

Also if they think it was his election that deserves a Nobel Peace Prize then it shouldn't be given to him. It should be given to all those that made his election possible. He ran a good campaign, his a good politician, but that wasn't why he was elected. It was soceities advancement in the field of civil rights that allowed a black american to become president in a country that only won civil rights 40 years ago.

tomo90

The inference of, "You're black and you became president, here's an award" is equally as racist and condescending as NOT giving him the award because he is black.

Here's an idea:

Let's stop defining people by race instead of just saying we've stopped defining people by race. "Judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Isn't that what Dr. King said? Do you think he meant that only when they were being judged poorly by their skin color? Or all the time?

[QUOTE="bdever32"]

Shame on you.

Shame-usBlackley

Obama asks for more troops from Europe

NATO says "POUND SAND."

Yes, giving a huge No Nuke speech and just a day later getting dumped on by Iran saying effectively, "Ha-ha, weaponized plutonium ***tches" and having them fire off test missiles to cap it off doesn't look good. At all. It shows that for all his talk on ending nuke proliferation, the bad guys in the world don't take him seriously, or even view him as a threat. Do you really believe Iran is intimidated (or interested in talking peace) in any way by Barack Obama?

Your dollar argument is peurile, infantile. "They'll take care of it" sounds like a great strategy. Worked great with Bush, right? And it's getting even better under Obama. Do me a favor: Stop voting.

The 8 percent is absolutely true, and it shows exactly how this guy has no control or grasp of the situation. He's spending money to try and keep from going broke, and it's not going to work. The world (including the communist Chinese) knows this, and that's why they want a new currency. Oil is currently traded ONLY in dollars, and Obama's (and Bush's before him) policies are devaluing the currency so much that the rest of the world is sick of it.

Carter was a MESS. Did you not see what happened to Iran under his watch? He was completely cowed by terrorism -- Iranians had taken 70 people hostage and it wasn't until Reagan came in and manned up that the situation was taken care of. He's a self-loathing Southerner -- he still thinks his fellow countrymen from the south are all racist and just said as much recently, and then tried to recant it when it blew up on him because he's a coward who can't even stand by his convictions. He also did NOTHING to stop inflation. He's a shining example of what NOT to do and be. Yet the liberals keep allowing him to waft around, like a stinky fart. Why is that? Because the democratic party has been hijacked by liberals who think Carter was ****ing AWESOME.

Being well-informed is not shameful. ;)

My dollar argument isn't an argument, it's my opinion. Your insults were not needed. I clearly stated that it was my opinion. I think the dollar is "too big to fail" in the eyes of many countries/people. In my opinion, the dollar should already be worthless. I guess I more or less agree with your position on the dollar, but I just don't think it will happen(crashing completely).

Again, I was agreeing with you on the unemployment part of what you said. Maybe I didn't come off like I was, but I actually think our unemployment is much worse than 8%, or even 10%. They have been manipulating the numbers for a long time now.

I guess I just don't think Iran is as big a threat as you do. Fair enough, honestly.

Carter was a mess in many ways. I think what he said about people being racist was stupid at best. But you can't discount what he did between Israel and Egypt. I think it could have been a very big stepping stone towards (some sort of) peace in the region.

In the end, I think my problem with what you're posting is the way in which you do it. You throw way too many insults around, and I think that's not the right way to win people over.I think we agree on more than you know, but I don't put all failures of our country into Obama's hands. I think our single biggest problem is our Congress and Senate. Remember, every branch of government is equally powerful. In the last couple decades, we've seemingly put more power into the executive branch, but in the end our legislative branch has just as much power. They are the real failures. Every single one of them should be voted out of office as soon as possible(except Ron Paul). Their job is to serve us, and they have proven that they only serve those who pay them the most. So they should all be fired.

I apologize for the "shame on you" comment, but I want what is best for my country and while I ultimately agree with your points I just don't think the way you present your case is doing what is best for the country.

Edit to add an on-topic statement: I absolutely don't think he should have received this award.

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Anything that makes Republicans angry makes me happy.

Obama winning the Peace Prize makes me VERY happy. I don't eevn think he deserves it, but I'm happy that it ticks off the conservatives that dislike Obama.

Pirate700

It also shows that the rest of the world doesn't like America's Republican core and all their war-mongering and xenophobia.

The world likes America's Democrats because they listen and talk to other countries on the same level, instead of looking down at them with arrogance.

Republicans are a foreign policy nightmare.

That's exactly why I want someone like Bush in office, to scare the daylights of anyone that tries to mess with us. With Obama, they know they can walk all over us and get away with it.Gooeykat

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]The point is, he shouldn't have even been in the running.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

It also shows that the rest of the world doesn't like America's Republican core and all their war-mongering and xenophobia.

The world likes America's Democrats because they listen and talk to other countries on the same level, instead of looking down at them with arrogance.

Republicans are a foreign policy nightmare.

Gooeykat

That's the kind of mentality we don't need in this country. The U.S should be setting an example of peace to the rest of the world, engaging in diplomacy rather than war. Spreading fear isn't the best way to get what you want because it's not a long term solution. All it will do is breed more resentment from our enemies, but if we engage in talks with our enemies we can find actual solutions to our problems.

That's the kind of mentality we don't need in this country. The U.S should be setting an example of peace to the rest of the world, engaging in diplomacy rather than war. Spreading fear isn't the best way to get what you want because it's not a long term solution. All it will do is breed more resentment from our enemies, but if we engage in talks with our enemies we can find actual solutions to our problems.

I've heard some countries in Europe have gone gaga over our president. Never realized the extent. To include him as a final candidate only days after his inauguration... it's odd.

wtf what did obama do

I'm really surprised..but good for him.

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]He just said he doesnt think he deserves it. Theokhoth

I agree, he hasn't really done anything. The award should really have gone to someone who has made an actual difference.

:D Is there any way to make this smile bigger?

As a fan of Obama it does seem a bit early to me for him to get this reward, but if what another poster said is true that they do sometimes give the award to support someone who is currently trying to get something done, then it is more understandable that he got it.

Whatever though, gratz Obama.

BTW, kinda cool that the first candidate I ever voted for in my life is getting the Nobel Peace prize.

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]has he actually done much?Shame-usBlackley

Nope.

All he's done is apologized over and over again in the hope of repairing "damaged relations" with foreign countries. He's given speech after speech, but when it comes time for another country to help this one, they've told him to pound sand or made him look even more moronic and naive than Bush. He went over to Europe and they all told him how much they loved him, but when he asked them to give us troops to help with Afghanistan they told him no. Then when he gave his big, bloated, pompous speech on nukes at the U.N., Iran made him look like an ill-informed, doe-eyed nobody by admitting they have a secret weapons site and launching a few test missiles in the air for good measure. Meanwhile, he removed the missile shield over our ally countries in Europe, which sounds like DEFENSE DISARMAMENT, not NUKES. He also flew to Copenhagen with Oprah to try and get the Olympics to come to Chicago while his Afghanistan commander was begging him for more troops, and he's spent so much money (quadrupled the deficit in ONE YEAR) that foreign investors are calling for another form of currency than the dollar because they know this guy's finishing the job that Bush started by bankrupting the country, and that there is a very good chance that all the DOLLARS they've invested will be worthless due to hyperinflation when the house of cards comes tumbling down. He promised that unemployment wouldn't hit 8 percent if he got his crapulus bill passed, and now we're going to be passing 10 percent any day.

Jimmy Carter won a Nobel Peace Prize, too, and he was about a spineless, do-nothing, self-loathing, douchebag. I'd say the award is a perfect fit. The ONLY thing Obama has really done right is ordering the SEALs to perform the Snipefecta on those idiot pirates who were holding that captain hostage -- that's about it. Granted, that WAS awesome (and we haven't seen much on pirates since we've started SHOOTING BACK, have we?), but it's certainly not much in terms of history.

EDIT: AND he let Nancy Pelosi handle the first draft of his (signature campaign promise) health care bill. What kind of a moron takes his supposedly "term-defining" agenda item and lets an unpopular socialist like Pelosi handle how it gets written? And then Obama got all upset when the country kicked it back in his face and he had to go on TV and say he was going to introduce his own bill, which he STILL hasn't done. This guy's ten pounds of BS in a five pound sack. He talks and talks, but does nothing. And what he does do is horrible. The guy's a mess. He has ZERO legislative experience, and it shows. He has ZERO business experience, and it shows. You've basically got a Junior Senator who used to work for Acorn running the country. And IT SHOWS.

It also shows that the rest of the world doesn't like America's Republican core and all their war-mongering and xenophobia.

The world likes America's Democrats because they listen and talk to other countries on the same level, instead of looking down at them with arrogance.

Republicans are a foreign policy nightmare.

Once again the Nobel Committee has proven they are irrelevant idiots.

I would like someone to tell me why he deserved this. For a bonus tell me why Algore won as well.

Didn't obama do some documentaries and stuff before his presidency?

That said, it does give him incentive not to escalate any more wars the US is in or potentially could get in (Afghanistan and Iran).Acemaster27

[QUOTE="Acemaster27"]That said, it does give him incentive not to escalate any more wars the US is in or potentially could get in (Afghanistan and Iran).fidosim

What makes you think they want american *weaker*?

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Acemaster27"]That said, it does give him incentive not to escalate any more wars the US is in or potentially could get in (Afghanistan and Iran).Espada12

What makes you think they want american *weaker*?

The Nobel committee stated:

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population."

I completely agree with them.