2009 Was Fox News' Best Year Ever. Glenn Beck ranks 4th Among Most Revered Men.

I hate Glenn Beck because his views are different than mine, and anyone with a different view or thought needs to be despised and hated. That's the only way we'll achieve bi-partisanship and learn to live together as a community, when we hate those that are different than us. Oh, and if we don't pass a stimulous bill immediately our economy will sink into depression and everyone will be out of work and starving to death. Not to mention that if we don't immediately reform health and have a government take over the health system will collapse and everyone will die from H1N1. But yeah, Glenn is a fear monger and I hate him for that.

I_am_george

I love that Tiger Woods tied with Bill Clinton. :lol: That's win.

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[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

I don't know that MSNBC is radical by any measure, but they certainly appeal to leftist politics.

TheAbbeFaria

Their news reporting is no different than any other news station that I've watched, including Fox, but the majority of the channel is filled with commentators who appeal to the left, including Morning Joe. I watched a segment recently when they had Hitchens on to discuss Obama's winning the Nobel Peace Prize, and all of them, excluding Chris, were defending Obama's winning the prize, saying that he deserved it because he represented change.

Also, Chris Matthews is pretty liberal, along with some of the others who fill in for Matthews and Scarborough when they are absent.

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[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

I don't know that MSNBC is radical by any measure, but they certainly appeal to leftist politics.

-Sun_Tzu-

MSNBC is obviously liberal/left wing, but theyre not radical.

I can understand why some might feel Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann come off as radicals, but that is about as far as it goes.

Hell, even Rachel pisses me off sometimes...she is like the liberal counter to Anne Coulter.

But, to sum up, you do not see the anchors on MSNBC publishing books about how conservatives are the devil, ruining America, and should be locked up, nor do you see them bashing gays, minorities (specifically Hispanics), etc.

You see all of that on FOX News though and their anchors do that.

In short, if anyone is radical, its the neoconservatives at FOX...I really wish they would go back to old conservatism.

hahha I love Maddow, dont get me wrong, and in hindsight she isnt so bad that she warrants a comparison to The Grand Witch Coulter

but she is the liberal equivelent in some ways...she is not as mean spirited, but she really does tear into conservatives and demonize them in a similiar fashion to Coulter (who demonizes liberals).

But where Coulter is just mean, nasty, and cold...Maddow is just a smartass and funny.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Does the network as a whole appeal to leftist politics or do certain MSNBC personalities appeal to leftist politics? Yes, Olbermann and Maddow are liberals (they are really the only two liberals who have their own shows on cable news), but I wouldn't say that the news division is promoting a liberal agenda, and let's not forget that Joe Scarborough has a 3 hour show every weekday morning.

-Sun_Tzu-

Their news reporting is no different than any other news station that I've watched, including Fox, but the majority of the channel is filled with commentators who appeal to the left, including Morning Joe. I watched a segment recently when they had Hitchens on to discuss Obama's winning the Nobel Peace Prize, and all of them, excluding Chris, were defending Obama's winning the prize, saying that he deserved it because he represented change.

Also, Chris Matthews is pretty liberal, along with some of the others who fill in for Matthews and Scarborough when they are absent.

No, that one example from a multitude of other examples to show that MSNBC appeals to the left, is not enough proof, but then again it was an example. I know that Hitchens is a liberal, but so am I. However, that doesn't mean that I want a channel dedicated to slanting news for that school of thought. And yes I do believe Pat was there as well, but I can't even recall who was all present anyway.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

MSNBC is obviously liberal/left wing, but theyre not radical.

I can understand why some might feel Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann come off as radicals, but that is about as far as it goes.

Hell, even Rachel pisses me off sometimes...she is like the liberal counter to Anne Coulter.

But, to sum up, you do not see the anchors on MSNBC publishing books about how conservatives are the devil, ruining America, and should be locked up, nor do you see them bashing gays, minorities (specifically Hispanics), etc.

You see all of that on FOX News though and their anchors do that.

In short, if anyone is radical, its the neoconservatives at FOX...I really wish they would go back to old conservatism.

mrbojangles25

hahha I love Maddow, dont get me wrong, and in hindsight she isnt so bad that she warrants a comparison to The Grand Witch Coulter

but she is the liberal equivelent in some ways...she is not as mean spirited, but she really does tear into conservatives and demonize them in a similiar fashion to Coulter (who demonizes liberals).

But where Coulter is just mean, nasty, and cold...Maddow is just a smartass and funny.

The way I see it, Maddow is sort of a more informative/slightly less witty version of Jon Stewart.

Is there some way I can be considered a conservative without being associated with conservatives?mindstorm

sure, just be sure to distinguish yourself from neocons.

Neocons really are nothing like genuine, true conservatives. A desire for small government is about as far as the similiarities go, and even that is bogus because you had neocons supporting Bush's bailout left and right.

Be a libertarian!

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

Their news reporting is no different than any other news station that I've watched, including Fox, but the majority of the channel is filled with commentators who appeal to the left, including Morning Joe. I watched a segment recently when they had Hitchens on to discuss Obama's winning the Nobel Peace Prize, and all of them, excluding Chris, were defending Obama's winning the prize, saying that he deserved it because he represented change.

Also, Chris Matthews is pretty liberal, along with some of the others who fill in for Matthews and Scarborough when they are absent.

TheAbbeFaria

No, that one example from a multitude of other examples to show that MSNBC appeals to the left, is not enough proof, but then again it was an example. I know that Hitchens is a liberal, but so am I. However, that doesn't mean that I want a channel dedicated to slanting news for that school of thought. And yes I do believe Pat was there as well, but I can't even recall who was all present anyway.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Just out of curiosity, what does Maddow do in your opinion that warrants a comparison to Anne Coulter? -Sun_Tzu-

hahha I love Maddow, dont get me wrong, and in hindsight she isnt so bad that she warrants a comparison to The Grand Witch Coulter

but she is the liberal equivelent in some ways...she is not as mean spirited, but she really does tear into conservatives and demonize them in a similiar fashion to Coulter (who demonizes liberals).

But where Coulter is just mean, nasty, and cold...Maddow is just a smartass and funny.

The way I see it, Maddow is sort of a more informative/slightly less witty version of Jon Stewart.

I think this conservative vs liberal mentality is a bit whacked though, which is why I can't respect anyone in the media who participates in this superficial conflict, seeing how it is their job to inform the public.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Is there some way I can be considered a conservative without being associated with conservatives?mrbojangles25

sure, just be sure to distinguish yourself from neocons.

Neocons really are nothing like genuine, true conservatives. A desire for small government is about as far as the similiarities go, and even that is bogus because you had neocons supporting Bush's bailout left and right.

Be a libertarian!

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Is there some way I can be considered a conservative without being associated with conservatives?mattbbpl

sure, just be sure to distinguish yourself from neocons.

Neocons really are nothing like genuine, true conservatives. A desire for small government is about as far as the similiarities go, and even that is bogus because you had neocons supporting Bush's bailout left and right.

Be a libertarian!

Their platform is based on a perfect world scenario (as in "This would work in a perfect world"). The problem is, we don't live in a perfect world, and the extremes of their stances would likely prove disastrous.

HAHAH totally, libertarians (at leas the ones with publicity) are quite wacky.

its great on paper, but unfortunately they could afford to be a bit more moderate.

Still...financially conservative, socially liberal...thats a great mix

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It is kind of like Fox's pointing to their ratings as some sort of dilapidation of their political point of view.... that seems to have no connection to actual politics.

fidosim

In my biased opinion, I facepalm at this revelation.

I don't care for Glenn Beck, but for Fox News, I think they're by far the most civilized and balanced of the networks. Unlike the liberal networks, they don't think that Sarah Palin is a sign of the apocalypse and I mean that literally and no, I'm not one of those people that misuse the word "literally". I have heard someone say that on HNL once when comparing Palin to 2012. However, their popularity means that they are now hold a huge portion of the mainstream media which means that conservatives can't call it the "lamestream media" as much as they want.

.. If Glenn Beck is that high on the list, that makes me nervous.. Apparently a group of radical neo conservatives are gaining strength.. Which doesn't bode well for the future.. sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"].. If Glenn Beck is that high on the list, that makes me nervous.. Apparently a group of radical neo conservatives are gaining strength.. Which doesn't bode well for the future.. fidosim

I don't think people can be pigeonholed into a certain political party (at least I hope not). Personally, I have both conservative and liberal views. No party is truly representative of how I feel, and I think that is true for a lot of people. Unfortunately, in the game of politics, representatives have to act with a "herd mentality" - I think that is the scariest thing of all. Perhaps it is a necessary evil? I dunno...

entropyecho

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"].. If Glenn Beck is that high on the list, that makes me nervous.. Apparently a group of radical neo conservatives are gaining strength.. Which doesn't bode well for the future.. fidosim

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"].. If Glenn Beck is that high on the list, that makes me nervous.. Apparently a group of radical neo conservatives are gaining strength.. Which doesn't bode well for the future.. entropyecho

You think nothing gets done in our system? Think what it would be like if there were multiple parties in power with no clear majority, we would never be able to pass any real acts.. The real flaw to our system is the fact that elected officials can run for multiple terms.. This needs to be stopped.. The president for instance really only has any real capability of passing any real legislation within the very first year, after that it just goes down hill.. sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]You think nothing gets done in our system? Think what it would be like if there were multiple parties in power with no clear majority, we would never be able to pass any real acts.. The real flaw to our system is the fact that elected officials can run for multiple terms.. This needs to be stopped.. The president for instance really only has any real capability of passing any real legislation within the very first year, after that it just goes down hill.. entropyecho

I find Glenn Beck terrifying.

I find Glenn Back terrifying.

HorseVillain

The voices of America?

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"].. If Glenn Beck is that high on the list, that makes me nervous.. Apparently a group of radical neo conservatives are gaining strength.. Which doesn't bode well for the future.. sSubZerOo

The problem with your theory being that without the "radicals" or "extremists" in either party, there's really no difference between the two. They'd all be made up of the same faceless politicians who wouldn't know how to stand firm on their beliefs if it came up and smacked them one. Like it or not, the only people who make the two primary political parties differ in any way are those radicals, equally Glenn Beck and Michael Moore, Ann Coulter and Hillary Clinton. At least with them you have the vague hope that maybe the two parties aren't actually made up of people who would rather see the country ran as a one party oligarchy under both party's combined rule.

*Looks around* *Confirms that I am once again the only conservative* *Executes right to bear arms*Head_of_games

.. If Glenn Beck is that high on the list, that makes me nervous.. Apparently a group of radical neo conservatives are gaining strength.. Which doesn't bode well for the future.. sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]*Looks around* *Confirms that I am once again the only conservative* *Executes right to bear arms*FunnyMouth

It isn't quirky to be an American, it's quirky to be a conservative. We are, most certainly, the minority on this website. Or, if not that, then the quieter bunch on here.

Glenn Beck might get annoying in real life, but I for the most part support his "views". FunnyMouth

[QUOTE="FunnyMouth"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"]*Looks around* *Confirms that I am once again the only conservative* *Executes right to bear arms*tycoonmike

It isn't quirky to be an American, it's quirky to be a conservative. We are, most certainly, the minority on this website. Or, if not that, then the quieter bunch on here.

Theres nothing wrong with being a conservative at all...I just don't support extreme conservatives, just like I don't support extreme liberals.

[QUOTE="FunnyMouth"]Glenn Beck might get annoying in real life, but I for the most part support his "views". entropyecho

[QUOTE="FunnyMouth"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"]*Looks around* *Confirms that I am once again the only conservative* *Executes right to bear arms*tycoonmike

It isn't quirky to be an American, it's quirky to be a conservative. We are, most certainly, the minority on this website. Or, if not that, then the quieter bunch on here.

Glenn Beck is rather disgusting. I sometimes end up watching either him or one of his retarded friends when I'm in a masochistic mood of boredom.

Fox news is number 1 because it's about the only "conservative" news channel in the country. There are also a lot of conservatives in this country.

Wow, that's embarrassing.

Wow, that's embarrassing.

RearNakedChoke

Not surprised. There are a lot of dumb people in this country.HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]Not surprised. There are a lot of dumb people in this country.Stevo_the_gamer

(and I'm not agreeing with him btw)

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]Not surprised. There are a lot of dumb people in this country.Stevo_the_gamer

If you admire Glenn Beck, then I would say yes.HoolaHoopMan