2012 election, would you vote for Obama for a second term?

I would not. All the change he has promised has been left un-answered.

In due respect, he has had some good ideas, but with the wrongt ideas of

exucting them. He has also increased our debt by millions.

It still too early to tell, but as of right now I would vote for him again...

I didn't vote for him the first time. Who are the other parties besides the two prominent ones running?LJS9502_basic

A few independent people.

The general question is, based on all he has done, would you vote for him, or

if you are underage would you?

No, I will not vote for him. I didn't vote for him the first time nor will I vote for him the second time.

Hell no. I didn't vote for him the first time. Unlike most Americans, I don't like being spoonfeed my info and actually reasearched the candidates instead of just listening to the words they spewed during their run. I knew Obama winning was a mistake before he won. Why? Because I researched his background and realized just how cooked he really was. If he wins a second time, I will officially consider the United States to be the dumbest country in the world.

Hes my favorite president. He actually seems like a human unlike many of our previous presidentswho acted like blind-mindless robots.

he has my vote.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I didn't vote for him the first time. Who are the other parties besides the two prominent ones running?All-Madden09

A few independent people.

The general question is, based on all he has done, would you vote for him, or

if you are underage would you?

Hell no. I didn't vote for him the first time. Unlike most Americans, I don't like being spoonfeed my info and actually reasearched the candidates instead of just listening to the words they spewed during their run. I knew Obama winning was a mistake before he won. Why? Because I researched his background and realized just how cooked he really was. If he wins a second time, I will officially consider the United States to be the dumbest country in the world.

AmazonTreeBoa

Hes my favorite president. He actually seems like a human unlike many of our previous presidentswho acted like blind-mindless robots.

he has my vote.

imetamonster

Yes a human, humans make mistakes, but he sure makes a lot.

And which previous presidents were "blind-mindless robots"?

Absolutely.

While his administration has often been **** at communication and complacent, I think that he has done a good job overall. I think that he has often been the "adult" and I liked his performance on the tax compromise and Bin Laden and I was never excepting a public option in the healthcare bill.

Also, IMO (and most economist's opinion), the stimulus needed to happen, so I don't mind that he increased the deficit. The foundation of the growing defecits was all ready there and he added to it in an arguable emergency situation.

I don't care that some of his campaign promises have been unanswered (though he has actually fulfilled more of his promises than not). Anybody who takes campaign promises seriously deserves to be dissapointed IMO.

Didn't support him back in 08, won't vote for him in 2012.

The thing with McCain was that he was old, and the presidency ages you horribly...

Honestly, I was worried he would die in office and we would be under Ms. President Sarah Palin right now...

Hell, thy name is America under Palin...

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Hell no. I didn't vote for him the first time. Unlike most Americans, I don't like being spoonfeed my info and actually reasearched the candidates instead of just listening to the words they spewed during their run. I knew Obama winning was a mistake before he won. Why? Because I researched his background and realized just how cooked he really was. If he wins a second time, I will officially consider the United States to be the dumbest country in the world.

DroidPhysX

Every person has their flaws, but I think he would have done a better job than trying to shove his opinions down our throat.

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Hes my favorite president. He actually seems like a human unlike many of our previous presidentswho acted like blind-mindless robots.

he has my vote.

All-Madden09

Yes a human, humans make mistakes, but he sure makes a lot.

And which previous presidents were "blind-mindless robots"?

can you name 1? You say he makes a ton of mistakes, but can you name 1 he has made that EVERYONE thinks is a mistake?

did you vote for McCain?

Because no mater who won that election in 08 you would got the same thing. because everything obama dose McCain supports it while everything mccain pulls up obama supports it.

obama fail...

mccain fail

They all fail.

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Hell no. I didn't vote for him the first time. Unlike most Americans, I don't like being spoonfeed my info and actually reasearched the candidates instead of just listening to the words they spewed during their run. I knew Obama winning was a mistake before he won. Why? Because I researched his background and realized just how cooked he really was. If he wins a second time, I will officially consider the United States to be the dumbest country in the world.

All-Madden09

Every person has their flaws, but I think he would have done a better job than trying to shove his opinions down our throat.

LOL, what does that even mean?

McCain had way more flaws than Obama and that was part of the reason he lost. He was erratic, immature for such an old person, lacked the ability to be civil in debates and had poor enough judgment to pick Palin as VP.

I mean, this is the man that freaked out during the finanical crisis and "suspended his campaign" to "save the economy" only to get to Washington and basically do nothing. He looked like a joke and Obama looked cool-headed and mature in comparison.

If i was a yank i'd want to see his birth certificate first.

Absolutely.

While his administration has often been **** at communication and complacent, I think that he has done a good job overall. I think that he has often been the "adult" and I liked his performance on the tax compromise and Bin Laden and I was never excepting a public option in the healthcare bill.

Also, IMO (and most economist's opinion), the stimulus needed to happen, so I don't mind that he increased the deficit. The foundation of the growing defecits was all ready there and he added to it in an arguable emergency situation.

I don't care that some of his campaign promises have been unanswered (though he has actually fulfilled more of his promises than not). Anybody who takes campaign promises seriously deserves to be dissapointed IMO.

GreySeal9

What about his constant bail-outs of huge companies, he needs to realize that with buisinesses that large, they would probably

need to be bailed out every week. Luckily that's not the case anymore though.

I never believe any canididates promises at all. Those are just media grabbers. Every single president has promised things,

but has fallen short. Particularly the democratic party.

Im not going to post which presidents were blind mindless robots because i would get attacked. But ill give you a hint of the biggest guy... His name is related to aancient plant in my front yard.

Obama has a heart. Dont get blinded by the misleading of fuax news. The unfair and way unbalanced

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] So John McCain was the best option. Lol noGreySeal9

Every person has their flaws, but I think he would have done a better job than trying to shove his opinions down our throat.

LOL, what does that even mean?

McCain had way more flaws than Obama and that was part of the reason he lost. He was erratic, immature for such an old person, lacked the ability to be civil in debates and had poor enough judgment to pick Palin as VP.

I mean, this is the man that freaked out during the finanical crisis and "suspended his campaign" to "save the economy" only to get to Washington and basically do nothing. He looked like a joke and Obama looked cool-headed and mature in comparison.

I will give you that. Both potential candidates sucked. McCain cracks under pressure, while Obama keeps a cool head.

Obama is very intelligent, but can be a idiot in some situations.

Voting for him simply for the Supreme Court. Don't want far right justices.

What about his constant bail-outs of huge companies, he needs to realize that with buisinesses that large, they would probably

need to be bailed out every week. Luckily that's not the case anymore though.All-Madden09

I don't consider the bailouts mistakes. I think most of them needed to happen. The GM bailout seemed to help them get back on their feet and the administration is planning of playing this up in states like Michigan and Ohio.

I never believe any canididates promises at all. Those are just media grabbers. Every single president has promised things,

but has fallen short. Particularly the democratic party.

All-Madden09

Because political reality sets in.

But do you have any evidence to back up your assertion about the Democrats? How have they fallen any shorter than Republicans?

Oh hell yeah!

I'd vote for him.

Im not going to post which presidents were blind mindless robots because i would get attacked. But ill give you a hint of the biggest guy... His name is related to aancient plant in my front yard.

Obama has a heart. Dont get blinded by the misleading of fuax news. The unfair and way unbalanced

imetamonster

Maybe so, but sometimes he can seem like he is only looking out for himself, and trying to impress

the media. Not help others. LOL, why does everyone take a shot a Bush? It's not his fault he had

to deal with 9/11 during his term. After 9/11 his decision making began to falter.

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Every person has their flaws, but I think he would have done a better job than trying to shove his opinions down our throat.

All-Madden09

LOL, what does that even mean?

McCain had way more flaws than Obama and that was part of the reason he lost. He was erratic, immature for such an old person, lacked the ability to be civil in debates and had poor enough judgment to pick Palin as VP.

I mean, this is the man that freaked out during the finanical crisis and "suspended his campaign" to "save the economy" only to get to Washington and basically do nothing. He looked like a joke and Obama looked cool-headed and mature in comparison.

I will give you that. Both potential candidates sucked. McCain cracks under pressure, while Obama keeps a cool head.

Obama is very intelligent, but can be a idiot in some situations.

I don't think it's so much an issue of him being an idiot in some situations as his administration being incompetent in some situations.

[QUOTE="All-Madden09"]What about his constant bail-outs of huge companies, he needs to realize that with buisinesses that large, they would probably

need to be bailed out every week. Luckily that's not the case anymore though.GreySeal9

I don't consider the bailouts mistakes. I think most of them needed to happen. The GM bailout seemed to help them get back on their feet and the administration is planning of playing this up in states like Michigan and Ohio.

I never believe any canididates promises at all. Those are just media grabbers. Every single president has promised things,

but has fallen short. Particularly the democratic party.

All-Madden09

Because political reality sets in.

But do you have any evidence to back up your assertion about the Democrats? How have they fallen any shorter than Republicans?

Because almost every single democrat promises "change" and sometimes that change is unwanted by the people. Such as the first version of Obama Care.

Voting for him simply for the Supreme Court. Don't want far right justices.

DroidPhysX

Who says they have to be far right?

Would you rather have far lefts justices?

I would prefer an impartial justice, someone in between.

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[QUOTE="All-Madden09"]What about his constant bail-outs of huge companies, he needs to realize that with buisinesses that large, they would probably

need to be bailed out every week. Luckily that's not the case anymore though.All-Madden09

I don't consider the bailouts mistakes. I think most of them needed to happen. The GM bailout seemed to help them get back on their feet and the administration is planning of playing this up in states like Michigan and Ohio.

I never believe any canididates promises at all. Those are just media grabbers. Every single president has promised things,

but has fallen short. Particularly the democratic party.

All-Madden09

Because political reality sets in.

But do you have any evidence to back up your assertion about the Democrats? How have they fallen any shorter than Republicans?

Because almost every single democrat promises "change" and sometimes that change is unwanted by the people. Such as the first version of Obama Care.

I'd say that all Presidential candidates promise change. After all, they want to convince voters that their admin will constrast the proceeding one. It wouldn't really make sense to say "Yeah, we'll be more of the same".

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Voting for him simply for the Supreme Court. Don't want far right justices.

All-Madden09

Who says they have to be far right?

Would you rather have far lefts justices?

I would prefer an impartial justice, someone in between.

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Hes my favorite president. He actually seems like a human unlike many of our previous presidentswho acted like blind-mindless robots.

he has my vote.

heysharpshooter

Yes a human, humans make mistakes, but he sure makes a lot.

And which previous presidents were "blind-mindless robots"?

can you name 1? You say he makes a ton of mistakes, but can you name 1 he has made that EVERYONE thinks is a mistake?

Depends on who the Republicans run and if they seem like a better alternative, obviously. If the Republicans run Mitt Romney, I'd definitely vote for Obama. If they run somebody else who seems more capable and with more effective sounding policies, then I'd consider it.

Oh, and if Jimmy McMillan takes his party to the national level after losing the Republican nomination, I'd vote for him.

The rent IS pretty damn high...

Definitely. His administration has persevered through some hellish events and the most ass-backwards immaturity from Congressional and statewide Republicans. Theokhoth

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Yes a human, humans make mistakes, but he sure makes a lot.

And which previous presidents were "blind-mindless robots"?

BMD004

can you name 1? You say he makes a ton of mistakes, but can you name 1 he has made that EVERYONE thinks is a mistake?

He's definitely made his fair share of mistakes, but I see no evidence that he's made more than any other President, and I think his mistakes have been far less costly than Bush Jr's.

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Voting for him simply for the Supreme Court. Don't want far right justices.

All-Madden09

Who says they have to be far right?

Would you rather have far lefts justices?

I would prefer an impartial justice, someone in between.

To answer the question, yes. Obama has done a a decent job, better than what most people would give him credit for. Doesn't help that the potential GOP candidates scare me away.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Voting for him simply for the Supreme Court. Don't want far right justices.

All-Madden09

Who says they have to be far right?

Would you rather have far lefts justices?

I would prefer an impartial justice, someone in between.

I'd prefer to have a good mix of far left justices, far right justices and moderate justices, but given the choice between more far left justices and far right justices, I'd pick the former because I am left of centre and generally think rightwing social policy (Which the Supreme Court has alot of sway over) is unrealistic (well, I think their economic policies are unrealistic as well, but I won't get into that).

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Voting for him simply for the Supreme Court. Don't want far right justices.

Ring_of_fire

Who says they have to be far right?

Would you rather have far lefts justices?

I would prefer an impartial justice, someone in between.

To answer the question, yes. Obama has done a a decent job, better than what most people would give him credit for. Doesn't help that the potential GOP candidates scare me away.

Conservative justices would be nice, at least ones who are not anchored to a certain party, but would go what is best for the people, but when is that ever going to happen?

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

[QUOTE="All-Madden09"]

Who says they have to be far right?

Would you rather have far lefts justices?

I would prefer an impartial justice, someone in between.

All-Madden09

To answer the question, yes. Obama has done a a decent job, better than what most people would give him credit for. Doesn't help that the potential GOP candidates scare me away.

Conservative justices would be nice, at least ones who are not anchored to a certain party, but would go what is best for the people, but when is that ever going to happen?

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

[QUOTE="All-Madden09"]

Who says they have to be far right?

Would you rather have far lefts justices?

I would prefer an impartial justice, someone in between.

All-Madden09

To answer the question, yes. Obama has done a a decent job, better than what most people would give him credit for. Doesn't help that the potential GOP candidates scare me away.

Conservative justices would be nice, at least ones who are not anchored to a certain party, but would go what is best for the people, but when is that ever going to happen?