45% of Americans Seek Out Organic Foods, Do You?

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Poll 45% of Americans Seek Out Organic Foods, Do You? (40 votes)

Yes, I actively try to include organic foods in my diet. 33%
No, I actively try to avoid organic foods in my diet. 5%
I don't think about either way. 63%

More people in cities or in the West actively include organic foods

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I would personally fall under the "don't think about it either way", yet It seems OT has some members who actively grow some of their own fruits and vegetables.

So where do you fall OT?

Are you like me and don't care either way?

Are you an anti-GMO guy/gal?

Or are you a level 5 vegan who won't eat anything that casts a shadow?

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#51 Dogswithguns
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Yes, as much as possible.. I eat very little fast food.

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#52  Edited By Doozie78
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@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@foxhound_fox said:

@Nuck81 said:

@foxhound_fox said:

If the quality of produce available in grocery chains continues to decline, then I might. The whole "organic" label is a very clever marketing campaign playing off of people's fears and desire to support the "green" movement. I see no point in paying 20-50% more for the exact same products for some perceived "health benefit".

If I want organic food, I'll buy the unlabeled, unregulated product available at farmers markets. True organic.

Most of the stuff at Farmers Markets have far more pesticides and chemicals that anything you'd find at a chain grocery store.

You seem confused on what "Organic" actually is.

Not really, I'm using "organic" in the non-branded sense. Grown by actual farmers to ship direct to small consumer markets locally. Doesn't mean they can't use fertilizer or pesticides.

So then it is confirmed, you don't really know what organic means. It means no man made synthetic pesticides/fertilizers were used to grow it. All the fertilizers/pesticides that are used are natural none synthetic. For example, I use worm casting, used coffee grounds, and azomite for my fertilizer and an organic fungicide for white powdery mold. I haven't had an insect problem this year, but when I did in the past, my pesticide was me ordering 1,500 ladybugs and releasing them in my garden. They took care of my insect problem, then proceeded to take care of the rest of the neighborhood's insect problem.

Very nice solution to the problem! I'm certain your neighbors would thank you for this.

Next season I'm going to start looking into growing towers since I won't have a tremendous amount of space to graden from. I have heard you can get incredible results from growing vertically instead of horizontally and it requires little to no dirt and zero pesticides. Now just to find towers that are not fabricated from plastics that may leech chems...

xD

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#53 foxhound_fox
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@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@foxhound_fox said:

@Nuck81 said:

@foxhound_fox said:

If the quality of produce available in grocery chains continues to decline, then I might. The whole "organic" label is a very clever marketing campaign playing off of people's fears and desire to support the "green" movement. I see no point in paying 20-50% more for the exact same products for some perceived "health benefit".

If I want organic food, I'll buy the unlabeled, unregulated product available at farmers markets. True organic.

Most of the stuff at Farmers Markets have far more pesticides and chemicals that anything you'd find at a chain grocery store.

You seem confused on what "Organic" actually is.

Not really, I'm using "organic" in the non-branded sense. Grown by actual farmers to ship direct to small consumer markets locally. Doesn't mean they can't use fertilizer or pesticides.

So then it is confirmed, you don't really know what organic means. It means no man made synthetic pesticides/fertilizers were used to grow it. All the fertilizers/pesticides that are used are natural none synthetic. For example, I use worm casting, used coffee grounds, and azomite for my fertilizer and an organic fungicide for white powdery mold. I haven't had an insect problem this year, but when I did in the past, my pesticide was me ordering 1,500 ladybugs and releasing them in my garden. They took care of my insect problem, then proceeded to take care of the rest of the neighborhood's insect problem.

Goddamn the obsession with semantics on forums knows no bounds...

I'm using "organic" in the general sense. Grown in dirt by a farmer in a natural way (no harsh chemical fertilizers or pesticides, just natural ones like manure and such) and not "Certified Organic" in the sense of branding to justify the increased price.

That's all that "Organic" is these days. A brand. I'm talking about farmers growing how their fathers and grandfathers grew and selling locally. Not products grown on "certified farms" and transported across countries to get to market.

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#54 AmazonTreeBoa
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@foxhound_fox said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@foxhound_fox said:

@Nuck81 said:

@foxhound_fox said:

If the quality of produce available in grocery chains continues to decline, then I might. The whole "organic" label is a very clever marketing campaign playing off of people's fears and desire to support the "green" movement. I see no point in paying 20-50% more for the exact same products for some perceived "health benefit".

If I want organic food, I'll buy the unlabeled, unregulated product available at farmers markets. True organic.

Most of the stuff at Farmers Markets have far more pesticides and chemicals that anything you'd find at a chain grocery store.

You seem confused on what "Organic" actually is.

Not really, I'm using "organic" in the non-branded sense. Grown by actual farmers to ship direct to small consumer markets locally. Doesn't mean they can't use fertilizer or pesticides.

So then it is confirmed, you don't really know what organic means. It means no man made synthetic pesticides/fertilizers were used to grow it. All the fertilizers/pesticides that are used are natural none synthetic. For example, I use worm casting, used coffee grounds, and azomite for my fertilizer and an organic fungicide for white powdery mold. I haven't had an insect problem this year, but when I did in the past, my pesticide was me ordering 1,500 ladybugs and releasing them in my garden. They took care of my insect problem, then proceeded to take care of the rest of the neighborhood's insect problem.

Goddamn the obsession with semantics on forums knows no bounds...

I'm using "organic" in the general sense. Grown in dirt by a farmer in a natural way (no harsh chemical fertilizers or pesticides, just natural ones like manure and such) and not "Certified Organic" in the sense of branding to justify the increased price.

That's all that "Organic" is these days. A brand. I'm talking about farmers growing how their fathers and grandfathers grew and selling locally. Not products grown on "certified farms" and transported across countries to get to market.

Oh okay, I understand what you mean now. I agree with that as well.

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#55 Celldrax
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I survive on mass-produced supermarket brands of food. So no, I don't care.

The whole GMO scare is a giant steaming pile of shit anyway.

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#56 dave123321
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I am okay with eating shitty things

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#57 deactivated-5b797108c254e
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If you can grow your own food, that's the best alternative. You'll know exactly what goes into your food. Of course, you can be like some fanatic idiots around here who will refuse to eat anything they haven't grown, so they buy farming plots next to the train tracks and end up dying of lead poisoning...

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@foxhound_fox said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@foxhound_fox said:

@Nuck81 said:

@foxhound_fox said:

If the quality of produce available in grocery chains continues to decline, then I might. The whole "organic" label is a very clever marketing campaign playing off of people's fears and desire to support the "green" movement. I see no point in paying 20-50% more for the exact same products for some perceived "health benefit".

If I want organic food, I'll buy the unlabeled, unregulated product available at farmers markets. True organic.

Most of the stuff at Farmers Markets have far more pesticides and chemicals that anything you'd find at a chain grocery store.

You seem confused on what "Organic" actually is.

Not really, I'm using "organic" in the non-branded sense. Grown by actual farmers to ship direct to small consumer markets locally. Doesn't mean they can't use fertilizer or pesticides.

So then it is confirmed, you don't really know what organic means. It means no man made synthetic pesticides/fertilizers were used to grow it. All the fertilizers/pesticides that are used are natural none synthetic. For example, I use worm casting, used coffee grounds, and azomite for my fertilizer and an organic fungicide for white powdery mold. I haven't had an insect problem this year, but when I did in the past, my pesticide was me ordering 1,500 ladybugs and releasing them in my garden. They took care of my insect problem, then proceeded to take care of the rest of the neighborhood's insect problem.

Goddamn the obsession with semantics on forums knows no bounds...

I'm using "organic" in the general sense. Grown in dirt by a farmer in a natural way (no harsh chemical fertilizers or pesticides, just natural ones like manure and such) and not "Certified Organic" in the sense of branding to justify the increased price.

That's all that "Organic" is these days. A brand. I'm talking about farmers growing how their fathers and grandfathers grew and selling locally. Not products grown on "certified farms" and transported across countries to get to market.

... When something is certified organic it has to be approved by the USDA in reaching multiple standards.. Furthermore this idea that local farmers don't use pesticides and herbicides to protect their crops is utter bullsh!t, and finally perhaps you should look up where e-coli comes from.. Because the latest outbreaks are usually always mishandling of product in which e-coli in manure taint the product..

That being said I don't buy this Organic horse sh!t.. GMO's have been tested more than any other product on the market, and will give us the best chance to adapting in a changing environment in creating crops that can handle climate changes.. Furthermore the term genetically modified organism needs to change, because any domesticated crop or animal has been heavily genetically modified through the thousands upon thousands of years that man has steered their evolutionary path..

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#60 deactivated-5b797108c254e
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@sSubZerOo: You know you're going to get a bunch of people yelling "Selective breeding is not the same as GMO!!!" right? =)

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#61 Zombiekiller360
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Yes Organic all the way

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#62 DaBrainz
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nope I prefer veggies grown in chemically pure nitrate and phosphate salts instead of poop.

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#63 seahorse123
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@sSubZerOo: Gmo's have been tested more than any other product but the most important question to ask is who are these studies funded by? FDA? Monsanto?

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No organic is largely a scam to get you to pay more. In terms of GMO crops I haven't heard any real evidence that they are bad for you in any way. I know people make the claim, but rarely if ever point to convincing studies supporting their point.

The only convincing argument I have heard is that GMO crop producers don't want to label them as such despite the fact that they say they are quality products.

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#65  Edited By Serraph105
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@foxhound_fox said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@foxhound_fox said:

@Nuck81 said:

@foxhound_fox said:

If the quality of produce available in grocery chains continues to decline, then I might. The whole "organic" label is a very clever marketing campaign playing off of people's fears and desire to support the "green" movement. I see no point in paying 20-50% more for the exact same products for some perceived "health benefit".

If I want organic food, I'll buy the unlabeled, unregulated product available at farmers markets. True organic.

Most of the stuff at Farmers Markets have far more pesticides and chemicals that anything you'd find at a chain grocery store.

You seem confused on what "Organic" actually is.

Not really, I'm using "organic" in the non-branded sense. Grown by actual farmers to ship direct to small consumer markets locally. Doesn't mean they can't use fertilizer or pesticides.

So then it is confirmed, you don't really know what organic means. It means no man made synthetic pesticides/fertilizers were used to grow it. All the fertilizers/pesticides that are used are natural none synthetic. For example, I use worm casting, used coffee grounds, and azomite for my fertilizer and an organic fungicide for white powdery mold. I haven't had an insect problem this year, but when I did in the past, my pesticide was me ordering 1,500 ladybugs and releasing them in my garden. They took care of my insect problem, then proceeded to take care of the rest of the neighborhood's insect problem.

Goddamn the obsession with semantics on forums knows no bounds...

I'm using "organic" in the general sense. Grown in dirt by a farmer in a natural way (no harsh chemical fertilizers or pesticides, just natural ones like manure and such) and not "Certified Organic" in the sense of branding to justify the increased price.

That's all that "Organic" is these days. A brand. I'm talking about farmers growing how their fathers and grandfathers grew and selling locally. Not products grown on "certified farms" and transported across countries to get to market.

A side note about "locally grown crops" I would like to add is that doing so will not mean a smaller carbon footprint reducing global warming. I am all for reducing that amount of C02 in the atmosphere, but about 83% of carbon creation from farming lies in the actual growing process, so choosing the most optimal place to grow is far more important than how far they have to be trucked to store locations.

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I'll be happy to eat organic more often once I have the money for it. For now, I only drink organic milk.

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#67 KHAndAnime
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Organic food isn't supposed to be grown with pesticides, but have been tested to have pesticides in them anyways. People looking towards organic are simply looking in the wrong direction. If you want to avoid pesticides, supporting GMO's is ideal, because GMO's let farmers grow food with less pesticides (around or less than organic food). Support GMO research and development and all of our food will have less pesticides. By supporting organic and battling GMO's, not much is gained. If you're worried about pesticides, GMO's should be the long-term goal. Or if you properly wash and skin the proper fruits and vegetables, you remove most of the pesticide residue left anyways.

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#68  Edited By AmazonTreeBoa
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@KHAndAnime said:

Organic food isn't supposed to be grown with pesticides, but have been tested to have pesticides in them anyways. People looking towards organic are simply looking in the wrong direction. If you want to avoid pesticides, supporting GMO's is ideal, because GMO's let farmers grow food with less pesticides (around or less than organic food). Support GMO research and development and all of our food will have less pesticides. By supporting organic and battling GMO's, not much is gained. If you're worried about pesticides, GMO's should be the long-term goal. Or if you properly wash and skin the proper fruits and vegetables, you remove most of the pesticide residue left anyways.

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#69  Edited By KHAndAnime
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@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@KHAndAnime said:

Organic food isn't supposed to be grown with pesticides, but have been tested to have pesticides in them anyways. People looking towards organic are simply looking in the wrong direction. If you want to avoid pesticides, supporting GMO's is ideal, because GMO's let farmers grow food with less pesticides (around or less than organic food). Support GMO research and development and all of our food will have less pesticides. By supporting organic and battling GMO's, not much is gained. If you're worried about pesticides, GMO's should be the long-term goal. Or if you properly wash and skin the proper fruits and vegetables, you remove most of the pesticide residue left anyways.

Perhaps I was a little unclear- if you want to best avoid pesticide residue at the moment, buy organic. If you want to best avoid pesticide residue in the future, support GMO research. It's possible to do both. It's also possible to buy non-organic and avoid most of the pesticide residue through thorough washing and skinning the "dirty dozen". Organic food has benefits but if we can use less pesticides in all food altogether by improving our GMO research and biotech - that sounds like the most sustainable option to me. Of course I'm speaking idealistically on behalf of farmers who use GMO's with that goal in mind.

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#71 JEP_100
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Hello,

Organic foods are usually the way to go as far as eating is concerned. I usually stick to fruits and vegtables

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#74 lostrib
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So have we gotten all anti-GMO in here yet?

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#75 Serraph105
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@lostrib said:

So have we gotten all anti-GMO in here yet?

Some have, but I'm not among them.

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#76 TopZopa
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I don't buy my own groceries, just give out little suggestions here and there.

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#77 udUbdaWgz1
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for me, anybody who doesn't think about it is either a fool or a true ignorant. on one cup of coffee i can't think of any other legitimate reasons, lol.