5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe About Islam (Cracked.com)

[QUOTE="poseidonwest"]

Whenever I try to tell people that modern math and chemistry wouldn't exist without Islam they never believe me.

ball_bag

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

So to summarize, Christianity sucks and Islam is awesome. Got it.

Theokhoth

"So while Christian crusaders were beheading enemies and tossing their heads like over-sized hacky sacks, their Muslim counterparts had a whole honor code that led them to feed the armies of their defeated enemies."

I'll just leave this right here.

I hate you ignorantasses, Ireally do.

Muslims are just like any other group of people. You got the good ones and the bad ones. Simply put. They are human just like anyone else. Awesome article tho, thx for sharing

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

So to summarize, Christianity sucks and Islam is awesome. Got it.

"So while Christian crusaders were beheading enemies and tossing their heads like over-sized hacky sacks, their Muslim counterparts had a whole honor code that led them to feed the armies of their defeated enemies."

I'll just leave this right here.

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

We need to have a Cracked.com sticky, not every article needs its own thread...

svenus97

some posts on this thread are lulz worthly.

Im not going to name any names, but do you people ever think about what you write? :P

No wonder i use this site to boost my ego /joke

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ball_bag"]You asserted (laughably) that Muhammad attacked only in self-defence. The quote from the Hadiths I provided directly contradicts this.ball_bag

misleading article is misleading. lol

they claim that islam isn't stuck in the dark ages, and to support this they poll american muslims on weather they accept evolution. they didn't poll all muslims.

...

first of all, even if every single muslim accepted evolution, that doesn't mean what the religion itself says agrees.

the article should be called "5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe About Muslims"

if it were about islam, they would be quoting from the Qur'an.

Phaze-Two

Having just put in the search words Islam and Evolution.

I found a number of sites on the FRONT PAGE, that ran counter to what you may think.

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

Link 4

Link 5

Obviously the science of evolution and Islam's view of it are gonna not mesh completely. Islamically evolution occurs because it is the will of God that these things are to occur. in the theory of evolution God doesn't even appear in the equation.

The reason i think Muslims are against or apprehensive of the theory of Evolution (despite there definently being room to see how such a theory could come to explain how we came to be in the physical sense) is because its.

A. An Idea of the West

seems a lot of the late 19th and 20th century ideas get dropped off the cart.Because they're deemed Anti-religion, anti-Islamic, Athiestic in nature.

The reason for the Islamic 'Golden Age' was because Islamic world (at that time) adopted and formed new practices, ideas, and theories into the world.

Science and Islam Part 1

Science and Islam Part 2

Science and Islam Part 3

(no these are not 'scientific' miracles found in the Quran, nor is it something that exaggerates the achievements by these Islamic scientists)

To think that Muslims, who like their Christian counterparts, who worked in the sciences achieved and gave nothing for the modern world (Muslims scientists i'm speaking of here) of any worth. Seems to me at best disingenious, and at worst racist ethnocentric orientalism.

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P.S.

I am not entirely certain if Harisemo is a conservative Muslim, or a bigot in the guise of a Muslim. can't tell anymore with the bi-polar trolling going on.

Lies and slander!

people, people.. people..

is it really that hard to go and do some research? You can at least go on wikipedia and check out islam for yourself, or islam in relation to science? What their beliefs are, and if the religion itself is a supporter of scientific data. Ect.

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Also the funniest argument in this whole thread is the "its all a lie" one.

I understand being sceptical and i also understand the concept of truth, but if you really are that sceptical to any source then why do you even believe in your own knowledge? Everything is questionable to a point, so i dont see why anyone should bring up the good ol' everything you know might be wrong- argument (not talking about this article specifically, but rather any sources given out on this thread by other users)

seems to me like there is way to much bias here. There is no point to start an argument if your position on something is a stubborn as an atheist vs theist conversation.

people, people.. people..

is it really that hard to go and do some research? You can at least go on wikipedia and check out islam for yourself, or islam in relation to science? What their beliefs are, and if the religion itself is a supporter of scientific data. Ect.

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Also the funniest argument in this whole thread is the "its all a lie" one.

I understand being sceptical and i also understand the concept of truth, but if you really are that sceptical to any source then why do you even believe in your own knowledge? Everything is questionable to a point, so i dont see why anyone should bring up the good ol' everything you know might be wrong- argument (not talking about this article specifically, but rather any sources given out on this thread by other users)

seems to me like there is way to much bias here. There is no point to start an argument if your position on something is a stubborn as an atheist vs theist conversation.

Half-Way

Just throwing it out there but I was being sarcastic. Prolly like several others in here :P

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

people, people.. people..

is it really that hard to go and do some research? You can at least go on wikipedia and check out islam for yourself, or islam in relation to science? What their beliefs are, and if the religion itself is a supporter of scientific data. Ect.

-

Also the funniest argument in this whole thread is the "its all a lie" one.

I understand being sceptical and i also understand the concept of truth, but if you really are that sceptical to any source then why do you even believe in your own knowledge? Everything is questionable to a point, so i dont see why anyone should bring up the good ol' everything you know might be wrong- argument (not talking about this article specifically, but rather any sources given out on this thread by other users)

seems to me like there is way to much bias here. There is no point to start an argument if your position on something is a stubborn as an atheist vs theist conversation.

TheMightyHoov

Just throwing it out there but I was being sarcastic. Prolly like several others in here :P

lmao, i wasent talking about you xD

my comment just happend to come right after yours :P

it was based on the argument the people where having on this thread. I didnt comment on those people posting "lolz its a lie". It was a comment about the people who made huge walls of text and argued that sources presented to them are questionable.

[QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

people, people.. people..

is it really that hard to go and do some research? You can at least go on wikipedia and check out islam for yourself, or islam in relation to science? What their beliefs are, and if the religion itself is a supporter of scientific data. Ect.

-

Also the funniest argument in this whole thread is the "its all a lie" one.

I understand being sceptical and i also understand the concept of truth, but if you really are that sceptical to any source then why do you even believe in your own knowledge? Everything is questionable to a point, so i dont see why anyone should bring up the good ol' everything you know might be wrong- argument (not talking about this article specifically, but rather any sources given out on this thread by other users)

seems to me like there is way to much bias here. There is no point to start an argument if your position on something is a stubborn as an atheist vs theist conversation.

Half-Way

Just throwing it out there but I was being sarcastic. Prolly like several others in here :P

lmao, i wasent talking about you xD

my comment just happend to come right after yours :P

it was based on the argument the people where having on this thread. I didnt comment on those people posting "lolz its a lie". It was a comment about the people who made huge walls of text and argued that sources presented to them are questionable.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

Just throwing it out there but I was being sarcastic. Prolly like several others in here :P

SaudiFury

lmao, i wasent talking about you xD

my comment just happend to come right after yours :P

it was based on the argument the people where having on this thread. I didnt comment on those people posting "lolz its a lie". It was a comment about the people who made huge walls of text and argued that sources presented to them are questionable.

nope not really lol

i hate that everyone feels like i target them now, but if you want to know. I think your post is among the most informative ones. You presented lots of sources. And tryed to clear things up.

20+ internets for you. :P

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

So to summarize, Christianity sucks and Islam is awesome. Got it.

KH-mixerX

"So while Christian crusaders were beheading enemies and tossing their heads like over-sized hacky sacks, their Muslim counterparts had a whole honor code that led them to feed the armies of their defeated enemies."

I'll just leave this right here.

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] The article never says Christianity sucks. Persecution complex much?HoolaHoopMan

"So while Christian crusaders were beheading enemies and tossing their heads like over-sized hacky sacks, their Muslim counterparts had a whole honor code that led them to feed the armies of their defeated enemies."

I'll just leave this right here.

implying European society at the time = everyone

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

"So while Christian crusaders were beheading enemies and tossing their heads like over-sized hacky sacks, their Muslim counterparts had a whole honor code that led them to feed the armies of their defeated enemies."

I'll just leave this right here.

Half-Way

implying European society at the time = everyone

[QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

people, people.. people..

is it really that hard to go and do some research? You can at least go on wikipedia and check out islam for yourself, or islam in relation to science? What their beliefs are, and if the religion itself is a supporter of scientific data. Ect.

-

Also the funniest argument in this whole thread is the "its all a lie" one.

I understand being sceptical and i also understand the concept of truth, but if you really are that sceptical to any source then why do you even believe in your own knowledge? Everything is questionable to a point, so i dont see why anyone should bring up the good ol' everything you know might be wrong- argument (not talking about this article specifically, but rather any sources given out on this thread by other users)

seems to me like there is way to much bias here. There is no point to start an argument if your position on something is a stubborn as an atheist vs theist conversation.

Half-Way

Just throwing it out there but I was being sarcastic. Prolly like several others in here :P

lmao, i wasent talking about you xD

my comment just happend to come right after yours :P

it was based on the argument the people where having on this thread. I didnt comment on those people posting "lolz its a lie". It was a comment about the people who made huge walls of text and argued that sources presented to them are questionable.

Ah good. Just unfortunate positioning :lol:

Yes I agree with you

muslims who believe in evolution are muslims by name and atheists by heart. another reason this article phails

Harisemo

Then how do you interpret this verse-

"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together before We split them asunder ? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" Surah Al Anbiyaa verse- 30

Now this one-

"(God is the one who) sent down the water from the sky and thereby brought forth pairs of plants, each separate from the other."

Al-Rad Verse-3

And this verse-

"Allah Almighty (God) created every animal from water. Among living objects there are some which crawl on their bellies, some walk on two legs and some on four".

Al-Noor Verse-45

Now about humans Allah Almighty has said that man was created from clay and there is another verse-

"The status of human life has been achieved after sucessfully passing through the steps of animal life."

Al-Mumenoon Verse 12

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] And....that would be historically accurate for the time. HoolaHoopMan

implying European society at the time = everyone

i misunderstood your comment completely, i though you where being sarcastic lmao

Great article, though it's sad how many people today still believe in this.

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] The article never says Christianity sucks. Persecution complex much?HoolaHoopMan

"So while Christian crusaders were beheading enemies and tossing their heads like over-sized hacky sacks, their Muslim counterparts had a whole honor code that led them to feed the armies of their defeated enemies."

I'll just leave this right here.

I'm not denying history.

[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]Well I learned something today. And TC, I kow that's Alex Mercer in your sig, but what power is that? I have the game, and he does'n have a powr thatlooks anything like that.-Big_Red-

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

muslims who believe in evolution are muslims by name and atheists by heart. another reason this article phails

conistant

Then how do you interpret this verse-

"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together before We split them asunder ? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" Surah Al Anbiyaa verse- 30 Nothing to do with evolution and even the Bible says every living thing was made from water

Now this one-

"(God is the one who) sent down the water from the sky and thereby brought forth pairs of plants, each separate from the other." Again this verse has nothing to do with evolution

Al-Rad Verse-3

And this verse-

"Allah Almighty (God) created every animal from water. Among living objects there are some which crawl on their bellies, some walk on two legs and some on four". notice it says God CREATED animal from water? just as God CREATED Adam

Al-Noor Verse-45

Now about humans Allah Almighty has said that man was created from clay and there is another verse-

"The status of human life has been achieved after sucessfully passing through the steps of animal life." There is no such verse in Quran.

Al-Mumenoon Verse 12

have you even read the Quran? and just to let you guys know I AM MUSLIM but sometimes i turn my troll mode on

[QUOTE="conistant"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

muslims who believe in evolution are muslims by name and atheists by heart. another reason this article phails

Harisemo

Then how do you interpret this verse-

"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together before We split them asunder ? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" Surah Al Anbiyaa verse- 30 Nothing to do with evolution and even the Bible says every living thing was made from water

Now this one-

"(God is the one who) sent down the water from the sky and thereby brought forth pairs of plants, each separate from the other." Again this verse has nothing to do with evolution

Al-Rad Verse-3

And this verse-

"Allah Almighty (God) created every animal from water. Among living objects there are some which crawl on their bellies, some walk on two legs and some on four". notice it says God CREATED animal from water? just as God CREATED Adam

Al-Noor Verse-45

Now about humans Allah Almighty has said that man was created from clay and there is another verse-

"The status of human life has been achieved after sucessfully passing through the steps of animal life." There is no such verse in Quran.

Al-Mumenoon Verse 12

have you even read the Quran? and just to let you guys know I AM MUSLIM but sometimes i turn my troll mode on

[QUOTE="conistant"] Yes I have read the Holy Quran and I'm sure I have read that verse in a translation of the Holy Quran. Secondly according to the evolution theory all life began from water as said in the Holy quran and same is the case with plants verse. I'm not saying humans evolved but I'm saying that animal evolution has been discussed in the Holy Quran. Anyway the theory of evolution may not be exactly correct but maybe there is something related to it in the Holy Quran which us humans have not understood.Harisemo

no there is nothing about human evolution in Quran. i wonder what kind of s*** translation you've been reading lulz please read a proper translation like Yousaf Ali etc.

(82:7)

(21:30)

(13:3)

(24:45)

(71:14)

(22:5)

(23:12)

(11:61)

It's obvious that the word Evolution did not exist during the time, but the Quran consistently states "We will teach ye, what ye knows not". So why is it so hard to not see that life originated from the Earth 'clay', and that all life stems from water.

All life no matter how strong, requires water to live, and all life - including man - are made up of a large percentage water.

if you don't believe me, nor cannot your mind to that possible conclusion. try it out and see if you get back to us.

We stand apart from the animal kingdom, because God endowed us with the conciousness and the ability to turn the environment - literally - at our whims.

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="conistant"] Yes I have read the Holy Quran and I'm sure I have read that verse in a translation of the Holy Quran. Secondly according to the evolution theory all life began from water as said in the Holy quran and same is the case with plants verse. I'm not saying humans evolved but I'm saying that animal evolution has been discussed in the Holy Quran. Anyway the theory of evolution may not be exactly correct but maybe there is something related to it in the Holy Quran which us humans have not understood.SaudiFury

no there is nothing about human evolution in Quran. i wonder what kind of s*** translation you've been reading lulz please read a proper translation like Yousaf Ali etc.

(82:7)

(21:30)

(13:3)

(24:45)

(71:14)

(22:5)

(23:12)

(11:61)

It's obvious that the word Evolution did not exist during the time, but the Quran consistently states "We will teach ye, what ye knows not". So why is it so hard to not see that life originated from the Earth 'clay', and that all life stems from water.

All life no matter how strong, requires water to live, and all life - including man - are made up of a large percentage water.

if you don't believe me, nor cannot your mind to that possible conclusion. try it out and see if you get back to us.

We stand apart from the animal kingdom, because God endowed us with the conciousness and the ability to turn the environment - literally - at our whims.

whats your point? that quran says we evolved?

I prefer the corollary - 1,304,509,809,534 ridiculous things that radical islam believes about the western world.

I prefer the corollary - 1,304,509,809,534 ridiculous things that radical islam believes about the western world.

sonicare

like what?

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

no there is nothing about human evolution in Quran. i wonder what kind of s*** translation you've been reading lulz please read a proper translation like Yousaf Ali etc.

Harisemo

(82:7)

(21:30)

(13:3)

(24:45)

(71:14)

(22:5)

(23:12)

(11:61)

It's obvious that the word Evolution did not exist during the time, but the Quran consistently states "We will teach ye, what ye knows not". So why is it so hard to not see that life originated from the Earth 'clay', and that all life stems from water.

All life no matter how strong, requires water to live, and all life - including man - are made up of a large percentage water.

if you don't believe me, nor cannot your mind to that possible conclusion. try it out and see if you get back to us.

We stand apart from the animal kingdom, because God endowed us with the conciousness and the ability to turn the environment - literally - at our whims.

whats your point? that quran says we evolved?

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="conistant"] Yes I have read the Holy Quran and I'm sure I have read that verse in a translation of the Holy Quran. Secondly according to the evolution theory all life began from water as said in the Holy quran and same is the case with plants verse. I'm not saying humans evolved but I'm saying that animal evolution has been discussed in the Holy Quran. Anyway the theory of evolution may not be exactly correct but maybe there is something related to it in the Holy Quran which us humans have not understood.SaudiFury

no there is nothing about human evolution in Quran. i wonder what kind of s*** translation you've been reading lulz please read a proper translation like Yousaf Ali etc.

(82:7)

(21:30)

(13:3)

(24:45)

(71:14)

(22:5)

(23:12)

(11:61)

It's obvious that the word Evolution did not exist during the time, but the Quran consistently states "We will teach ye, what ye knows not". So why is it so hard to not see that life originated from the Earth 'clay', and that all life stems from water.

All life no matter how strong, requires water to live, and all life - including man - are made up of a large percentage water.

if you don't believe me, nor cannot your mind to that possible conclusion. try it out and see if you get back to us.

We stand apart from the animal kingdom, because God endowed us with the conciousness and the ability to turn the environment - literally - at our whims.

:lol:

i've examined that silly argument before and it's ridiculous...

why did it take so long for evolution to become common knowledge (thanks to science, not the koran) if it was really in the koran? (which, really, it's just not) lol. you'd think god would know how to make it more clear to us how evolution works, and make sure we understand.

and this all assumes god even exists... where's the demonstrable reliable evidence of that?

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]To SaudiFury: Are you suggesting that evolution is demonstrated by spaniards getting taller? ball_bag

it COULD be, keep in mind, simply that nutrition has gotten better and therefore they grow taller because they get more calcium etc...

there are better examples of evolution happening in the recent past.

i was reading the greatest show on earth by richard dawkins and it talked about how they created new DNA information in a lab test by feeding bacteria different levels of glucose and citrate and the E. Coli bacteria evolved in order to better live in an envoironment where whatever of the two food sources was most abundant. (i could be wrong about how exactly the expierement was done... sorry) but the important thing is, scientists witnessed new DNA being formed. evolution is a done deal, thanks to science, not some silly book written by mystics in the middle east or anywhere else a long time ago.

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

no there is nothing about human evolution in Quran. i wonder what kind of s*** translation you've been reading lulz please read a proper translation like Yousaf Ali etc.

Phaze-Two

(82:7)

(21:30)

(13:3)

(24:45)

(71:14)

(22:5)

(23:12)

(11:61)

It's obvious that the word Evolution did not exist during the time, but the Quran consistently states "We will teach ye, what ye knows not". So why is it so hard to not see that life originated from the Earth 'clay', and that all life stems from water.

All life no matter how strong, requires water to live, and all life - including man - are made up of a large percentage water.

if you don't believe me, nor cannot your mind to that possible conclusion. try it out and see if you get back to us.

We stand apart from the animal kingdom, because God endowed us with the conciousness and the ability to turn the environment - literally - at our whims.

:lol:

i've examined that silly argument before and it's ridiculous...

why did it take so long for evolution to become common knowledge (thanks to science, not the koran) if it was really in the koran? (which, really, it's just not) lol. you'd think god would know how to make it more clear to us how evolution works, and make sure we understand.

and this all assumes god even exists... where's the demonstrable reliable evidence of that?

There is absolutely nothing in the Qur'an about women wearing a veil. Please try to be a little less ignorant.