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#1 dontshackzmii
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These days every time i hear some one bashing the bible they talk about this "6000 year old earth" . No where in the bible gives a date to when god made earth . It comes from this bishop in 1650 ad who tried to guess the age of earth from a bunch of guesses .

I just wish people would learn what they are talking about be for bashing it every chance they get .

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#2 jman1553
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The bible does talk about how the world's first woman was created from a man's RIB.

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#4 dontshackzmii
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The bible does talk about how the world's first woman was created from a man's RIB.

jman1553

You do know thats not a literal account right?

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who is bashing anything? you came to us
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#6 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="jman1553"]

The bible does talk about how the world's first woman was created from a man's RIB.

dontshackzmii

You do know thats not a literal account right?

How do you know that?

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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="jman1553"]

The bible does talk about how the world's first woman was created from a man's RIB.

You do know thats not a literal account right?

you do know that none of the bible is right?
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#8 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="jman1553"]

The bible does talk about how the world's first woman was created from a man's RIB.

dontshackzmii

You do know thats not a literal account right?

If more people of Fundamental persuasion believed that, there'd be a lot less trolling on the subject. Alas, Young Earth Creationists do accept dates to 6-10 k years for the creation of the Earth and the literal, physical truth of everything presented in the Bible.
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#9 clayron
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[QUOTE="-DirtySanchez-"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="jman1553"]

The bible does talk about how the world's first woman was created from a man's RIB.

You do know thats not a literal account right?

you do know that none of the bible is right?

Whut?
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Oh my, TC fail. =3 This thread will grow.
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#11 Brainkiller05
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="jman1553"]

The bible does talk about how the world's first woman was created from a man's RIB.

Gambler_3

You do know thats not a literal account right?

How do you know that?

When it says 6,000 years it means not 6,000 years it makes so much sense now
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#12 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="jman1553"]

The bible does talk about how the world's first woman was created from a man's RIB.

Gambler_3

You do know thats not a literal account right?

How do you know that?

The fact that ribs don't turn into women.
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#13 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

You do know thats not a literal account right?

Brainkiller05

How do you know that?

When it says 6,000 years it means not 6,000 years it makes so much sense now

It doesn't say 6,000 years. The number 6,000 isn't even in the Bible. >_>
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I live near the creation museum, and they do...:(

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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

You do know thats not a literal account right?

Theokhoth

How do you know that?

The fact that ribs don't turn into women.

Prove that they don't :x
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

You do know thats not a literal account right?

Theokhoth

How do you know that?

The fact that ribs don't turn into women.

If only...
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i guess it's to prove their point. You want to get everything you can to support your reasoning.
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#18 Ringx55
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I thought it said the Earth was created in 6 days. Vegetation the third day and the sun and stars on the fourth day? Which makes no sense.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]How do you know that?

xaos

The fact that ribs don't turn into women.

Prove that they don't :x

If ribs turn into women, then I am a cannibal.

I'm not a cannibal.

Therefore, ribs don't turn into women. 8)

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Smells like a religious debate in here.
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#21 jman1553
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Uh, forgive my flame bait. Just thought it would help spark another 20 page religion topic. But why is it that the Bible sometimes is taken literally, and sometimes it is not? I think if you're going to believe in something, don't half-ass it.

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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] The fact that ribs don't turn into women.Theokhoth

Prove that they don't :x

If ribs turn into women, then I am a cannibal.

I'm not a cannibal.

Therefore, ribs don't turn into women. 8)

Flawless Argument.
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who is bashing anything? you came to usweezyfb
lol so true :lol:
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] The fact that ribs don't turn into women.Theokhoth

Prove that they don't :x

If ribs turn into women, then I am a cannibal.

I'm not a cannibal.

Therefore, ribs don't turn into women. 8)

Postulate: Eating something that may someday become a human does not make one a cannibal Evidence: [redacted to avoid moderation QED! (Latin for "duh")
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#25 Theokhoth
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Uh, forgive my flame bait. Just thought it would help spark another 20 page religion topic. But why is it that the Bible sometimes is taken literally, and sometimes it is not? I think if you're going to believe in something, don't half-ass it.

jman1553
If I take the Bible literally about the existence and teachings of Jesus, do I therefore have to take literally His comparison of the church to a mustard seed? Parables and psalms exist in the Bible; it's not one book.
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#26 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

You do know thats not a literal account right?

Theokhoth

How do you know that?

The fact that ribs don't turn into women.

It wasnt a fact back then...

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It doesn't say 6,000 years. The number 6,000 isn't even in the Bible. >_>Theokhoth

Actually, it is. Four times, in fact. 1 Samuel 13:5, 2 Kings 5:5, 1 Chronicles 23:4, and Job 42:12.

In reference to the number of charioteers, shekels of gold, officials and judges, and camels.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]How do you know that?

Gambler_3

The fact that ribs don't turn into women.

It wasnt a fact back then...

It wasn't..?
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] If I take the Bible literally about the existence and teachings of Jesus, do I therefore have to take literally His comparison of the church to a mustard seed?

Oh can you call yourself a Christian if you refuse to believe that a church is comparable to a mustard seed? I mean...come on!
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#30 -DirtySanchez-
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]How do you know that?

Theokhoth

When it says 6,000 years it means not 6,000 years it makes so much sense now

It doesn't say 6,000 years. The number 6,000 isn't even in the Bible. >_>

neither are dino's, acording to religion they never excisted, until one day they said oh yea theres mention of them in there ( referin just to the makein of animals and the fact that they would of been around the same time as man , both BS )

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#31 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]How do you know that?

Gambler_3

The fact that ribs don't turn into women.

It wasnt a fact back then...

I'm pretty sure people were aware that ribs don't turn into women back then.

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#32 clayron
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]It doesn't say 6,000 years. The number 6,000 isn't even in the Bible. >_>GabuEx

Actually, it is. Four times, in fact. 1 Samuel 13:5, 2 Kings 5:5, 1 Chronicles 23:4, and Job 42:12.

In reference to the number of charioteers, shekels of gold, officials and judges, and camels.

Lol Gabu. Seriously, do this guy know everything about the bible?
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#33 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="jman1553"]

Uh, forgive my flame bait. Just thought it would help spark another 20 page religion topic. But why is it that the Bible sometimes is taken literally, and sometimes it is not? I think if you're going to believe in something, don't half-ass it.

Theokhoth

If I take the Bible literally about the existence and teachings of Jesus, do I therefore have to take literally His comparison of the church to a mustard seed? Parables and psalms exist in the Bible; it's not one book.

What about the existence of god? There is every chance that it could be a parable...

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] When it says 6,000 years it means not 6,000 years it makes so much sense now-DirtySanchez-

It doesn't say 6,000 years. The number 6,000 isn't even in the Bible. >_>

neither are dino's, acording to religion they never excisted, until one day they said oh yea theres mention of them in there ( referin just to the makein of animals and the fact that they would of been around the same time as man , both BS )

What? :|

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#35 clayron
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] When it says 6,000 years it means not 6,000 years it makes so much sense now-DirtySanchez-

It doesn't say 6,000 years. The number 6,000 isn't even in the Bible. >_>

neither are dino's, acording to religion they never excisted, until one day they said oh yea theres mention of them in there ( referin just to the makein of animals and the fact that they would of been around the same time as man , both BS )

Whut?
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#36 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]How do you know that?

Gambler_3

The fact that ribs don't turn into women.

It wasnt a fact back then...

So ribs were turning into women back in the day?

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]It doesn't say 6,000 years. The number 6,000 isn't even in the Bible. >_>GabuEx

Actually, it is. Four times, in fact. 1 Samuel 13:5, 2 Kings 5:5, 1 Chronicles 23:4, and Job 42:12.

In reference to the number of charioteers, shekels of gold, officials and judges, and camels.

I believe there's a verse about cooking know-it-all chocobos too. :x
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="jman1553"]

Uh, forgive my flame bait. Just thought it would help spark another 20 page religion topic. But why is it that the Bible sometimes is taken literally, and sometimes it is not? I think if you're going to believe in something, don't half-ass it.

Gambler_3

If I take the Bible literally about the existence and teachings of Jesus, do I therefore have to take literally His comparison of the church to a mustard seed? Parables and psalms exist in the Bible; it's not one book.

What about the existence of god? There is every chance that it could be a parable...

Even if it is then it accomplishes the same purpose, so I don't care about that. The fact that people believed in living deities back then, however, suggests that God is not a parable.

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#39 clayron
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] The fact that ribs don't turn into women.Silverbond

It wasnt a fact back then...

So ribs were turning into women back in the day?

Rampantly. How else do you think people got here? Evolution!? Lol Newb!
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

The fact that ribs don't turn into women.Theokhoth
It wasnt a fact back then...

I'm pretty sure people were aware that ribs don't turn into women back then.

back when exactly? there was only adam and eve, and god, adam lost a rib to have eve, im not sure what your tryin to say, unless your sayin the bible lies. how dare you heathen!!! :|
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] The fact that ribs don't turn into women.Theokhoth

It wasnt a fact back then...

I'm pretty sure people were aware that ribs don't turn into women back then.

And the bible doesnt say that ribs "turn" into women does it?:|

It's talking about the "creation" of women, people didnt know squat back then about the creation of humans...

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#42 GabuEx
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Uh, forgive my flame bait. Just thought it would help spark another 20 page religion topic. But why is it that the Bible sometimes is taken literally, and sometimes it is not? I think if you're going to believe in something, don't half-ass it.

jman1553

Even Paul takes the Old Testament non-literally in his letter to the Galatians:

"Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says?For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise. These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar.Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. ....Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise.At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now." (Galatians 4:21-26,28-29)

If a writing included in the Bible does not take the Bible completely literally, it seems rather absurd to suggest that Christians ought to do so.

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#43 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]It wasnt a fact back then...

Gambler_3

I'm pretty sure people were aware that ribs don't turn into women back then.

And the bible doesnt say that ribs "turn" into women does it?:|

It's talking about the "creation" of women, people didnt know squat back then about the creation of humans...

I'm still pretty sure they were aware that ribs can't be used to create women back then.

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#44 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]It wasnt a fact back then...

Gambler_3

I'm pretty sure people were aware that ribs don't turn into women back then.

And the bible doesnt say that ribs "turn" into women does it?:|

It's talking about the "creation" of women, people didnt know squat back then about the creation of humans...

I'm sure they knew that women didn't come from the ribs of men.

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#45 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] If I take the Bible literally about the existence and teachings of Jesus, do I therefore have to take literally His comparison of the church to a mustard seed? Parables and psalms exist in the Bible; it's not one book.Theokhoth

What about the existence of god? There is every chance that it could be a parable...

Even if it is then it accomplishes the same purpose, so I don't care about that. The fact that people believed in living deities back then, however, suggests that God is not a parable.

LoL wut? People also believed in literal creationism back then....:|

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#46 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]What about the existence of god? There is every chance that it could be a parable...

Gambler_3

Even if it is then it accomplishes the same purpose, so I don't care about that. The fact that people believed in living deities back then, however, suggests that God is not a parable.

LoL wut? People also believed in literal creationism back then....:|

No they didn't. They had creation myths that were designed for the purpose of demonstrating God's power to create. They had no idea how the world was created back then; read the Vedas, which are over ten thousand years old and flat out say "Nobody knows how the universe came to exist. Perhaps God knows--or perhaps he does not."

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and zeus throws lightning bolts at the ground
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#48 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I'm pretty sure people were aware that ribs don't turn into women back then.

Theokhoth

And the bible doesnt say that ribs "turn" into women does it?:|

It's talking about the "creation" of women, people didnt know squat back then about the creation of humans...

I'm still pretty sure they were aware that ribs can't be used to create women back then.

You are wrong. Most of the muslim world even today takes it very seriously that women are indeed created from the rib of man. I am not sure what the christians who take the bible literally believe but really how can you know that ribs cant be used for that? Heck even today there isnt a sound scientific theory on the formation of the two sexes, back then creation was such an utter mystery that there is no way the rib thing would seem non-sense...

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#49 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]And the bible doesnt say that ribs "turn" into women does it?:|

It's talking about the "creation" of women, people didnt know squat back then about the creation of humans...

Gambler_3

I'm still pretty sure they were aware that ribs can't be used to create women back then.

You are wrong. Most of the muslim world even today takes it very seriously that women are indeed created from the rib of man. I am not sure what the christians who take the bible literally believe but really how can you know that ribs cant be used for that? Heck even today there isnt a sound scientific theory on the formation of the two sexes, back then creation was such an utter mystery that there is no way the rib thing would seem non-sense...

People looked at ribs.

Saw that ribs did not become women.

The creators of mathematics, philosophy and what would become modern science were not stupid.

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#50 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Even if it is then it accomplishes the same purpose, so I don't care about that. The fact that people believed in living deities back then, however, suggests that God is not a parable.

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LoL wut? People also believed in literal creationism back then....:|

No they didn't. They had creation myths that were designed for the purpose of demonstrating God's power to create. They had no idea how the world was created back then; read the Vedas, which are over ten thousand years old and flat out say "Nobody knows how the universe came to exist. Perhaps God knows--or perhaps he does not."

I misunderstood your post a little...

But wait 10000 year old vedas? Is there such a thing?:o

But hindus do believe in the literal account of the 3 rishis and the beginning of mankind so ya my point stands...