63 year old put into coma for being white, dies.

Once he gets out free like Zimmerman did, then a real public outrage is warranted. For the time being, he's just another criminal who shouldn't receive any attention from the media to fulfill some political agenda.

I am sorry, but what is the point of this thread?

Person A attacked person B, person A was arrested and charged appropriately.

end of story.

not really news worthy.

mrbojangles25

wow, race-baiting to the max, stay classy, OT

Starting to reach Storm-front levels.

wow, race-baiting to the max, stay classy, OT

Starting to reach Storm-front levels.

Zaibach

Once he gets out free like Zimmerman did, then a real public outrage is warranted. For the time being, he's just another criminal who shouldn't receive any attention from the media to fulfill some political agenda.

Mystery_Writer

Well other than it being appels and oranges, in this case there were witnesses of the attack and of this idiot saying that he will hit the next white person he sees.

It does look like the charges will be upgraded.

[QUOTE="dagreenfish"]

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"] This. Reverse the races and the outrage is 10 times bigger. gamerguru100

So the public should be outraged over the arbitrary use of a label?

Double standards exist in society everyday without a hint of public outrage. All this bitching and moaning is premature.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

wow, race-baiting to the max, stay classy, OT

Starting to reach Storm-front levels.

Rhazakna

great rebuttal, the personal insult really validated your argument, the comparison to stormfront is hyperbole on my part. 

what is it with the 'whataboutteries'? double standards are part of life, deal or gfto.

we live in a PC society? You don't say? damn, if only more white guys and and black guys would  attack each other to justify your moral outrage.

but using this unfortunate tragedy to justify your warped sense of social injustice isnt going to foster a legitimate discussion, not here, not anywhere on the internet because frankly there are too many guys like you with a chip on their shoulder who think the world is against them.  a hate crime is a hate crime, no matter who does it, the guy who did this will not get away with it, I dont see why it not being on the front pages offends you so much?

people get attacked all the time, most killings are done directly or indirectly from hate (fear), get over it. 

My prayers and thoughts are with the poor soul on whom this tragedy has be-fallen. 

and please dont reply to me, I wish to no longer engage with you on this topic

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

wow, race-baiting to the max, stay classy, OT

Starting to reach Storm-front levels.

Rhazakna

That's not a fact. It's an assumption. You should know the difference.

And while this forum isn't anything like Stormfront, it's sure filled with raceaholics.

Damn hit him with that 1 hitter quitter

59% for whites compared to the 20.9% for blacks,lamprey263

60% of crimes committed by whites, are assumed to be racially motivated.

Where as just under 21% of crimes committed by blacks are assumed to be racially motivated.

So it's more like 3-1.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

wow, race-baiting to the max, stay classy, OT

Starting to reach Storm-front levels.

Rhazakna

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] "upgrading the charges"....if the roles were reversed, the charges would have been a hate crime from the very start Im waiting for a speech from Obama on this. any minute now. Renevent42

That's actually not true...they did investigate and they simply found there wasn't evidence that contradicted his story and that there wasn't a case for prosecution. Looking at the joke of a trial that happened after the public outrage, I think it's pretty obvious why that was.

It's quite terrible that this poor man had to die, and repugnant that some people would assault or even kill someone based on their race or skin color. What makes people have such hatreds? No doubt there are some people in both races, who stir up the pot and whip up the wrong kind of feelings among people, but it seems that there is more "tolerance" from the media when the race-baiters are black.

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]59% for whites compared to the 20.9% for blacks,Nibroc420

60% of crimes committed by whites, are assumed to be racially motivated.

Where as just under 21% of crimes committed by blacks are assumed to be racially motivated.

So it's more like 3-1.

I hate this because 'he was black', or because 'he was white' labels on crimes.  Yeah, people are racist... its not like its ever going to go away.  And it shouldn't be an epiphony that blacks are just as racist as whites.  The whole argument stems from the fact that in a lot of poor communities they do little to help themselves and instead rely on handouts and sit around and blame others for their misfortune.  It's always someone elses fault, or something elses fault... no responisbility can ever land on the person that does the crime.  

Its videogames, music, guns, movies, cartoons, people not being political correct all the time... its always something else.  It saddens me that kids are raised to believe this way, the mentality that everyone gets a trophy and not taking responsibility for your own life.   

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

wow, race-baiting to the max, stay classy, OT

Starting to reach Storm-front levels.

Rhazakna

out of curiosity, has anybody considered that the upgraded charges are more to do with the fact that the guy died, I mean the headline was "Man punched in the face in Union Square hate attack dies at Bellevue Hospital ", the charges went from assault to murder as a result of the guy dying, after all it's not like prosecutors were scratching their heads as to whether or not this was a hate crimelamprey263

I hate this because 'he was black', or because 'he was white' labels on crimes.  Yeah, people are racist... its not like its ever going to go away.  And it shouldn't be an epiphony that blacks are just as racist as whites.  The whole argument stems from the fact that in a lot of poor communities they do little to help themselves and instead rely on handouts and sit around and blame others for their misfortune.  It's always someone elses fault, or something elses fault... no responisbility can ever land on the person that does the crime.  

Its videogames, music, guns, movies, cartoons, people not being political correct all the time... its always something else.  It saddens me that kids are raised to believe this way, the mentality that everyone gets a trophy and not taking responsibility for your own life.   

Chrypt22

Another thread filled with closet racists.m25105

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]59% for whites compared to the 20.9% for blacks,lamprey263

60% of crimes committed by whites, are assumed to be racially motivated.

Where as just under 21% of crimes committed by blacks are assumed to be racially motivated.

So it's more like 3-1.

Another thread filled with closet racists.m25105

Crawl back to bed and pray that a white sheet ghost isn't in your closet :lol:

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]out of curiosity, has anybody considered that the upgraded charges are more to do with the fact that the guy died, I mean the headline was "Man punched in the face in Union Square hate attack dies at Bellevue Hospital ", the charges went from assault to murder as a result of the guy dying, after all it's not like prosecutors were scratching their heads as to whether or not this was a hate crimewhipassmt

Hate crime laws are based on race, sexual orientation, gender identity and ethnicity to name a few. Labeling a crime as a hate crime increases penalties above what normally could be sought for a particular crime. If someone is charged with assault would only face a maximum of 8 years, being labeled a hate crime can bring more time on top of that.

[QUOTE="m25105"]Another thread filled with closet racists.mingmao3046

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]out of curiosity, has anybody considered that the upgraded charges are more to do with the fact that the guy died, I mean the headline was "Man punched in the face in Union Square hate attack dies at Bellevue Hospital ", the charges went from assault to murder as a result of the guy dying, after all it's not like prosecutors were scratching their heads as to whether or not this was a hate crimeWhiteKnight77

Hate crime laws are based on race, sexual orientation, gender identity and ethnicity to name a few. Labeling a crime as a hate crime increases penalties above what normally could be sought for a particular crime. If someone is charged with assault would only face a maximum of 8 years, being labeled a hate crime can bring more time on top of that.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Hate crime laws are based on race, sexual orientation, gender identity and ethnicity to name a few. Labeling a crime as a hate crime increases penalties above what normally could be sought for a particular crime. If someone is charged with assault would only face a maximum of 8 years, being labeled a hate crime can bring more time on top of that.

whipassmt

I didn't write the law, just know that based on certain criteria, an assault can considered a hate crime. In the case of this guy punching and ultimately killing the elderly gentleman, he explicitly stated he was going to punch the next white guy he saw. The fact that he stated a race, made it racial and thus, it would be classified as a hate crime. It would be no different than if the guy was black and gay and still attacked him for that reason (this happened in the Atlanta area and the two assailants were charged and convicted on hate crimes and all were black). 

[QUOTE="lamprey263"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

60% of crimes committed by whites, are assumed to be racially motivated.

Where as just under 21% of crimes committed by blacks are assumed to be racially motivated.

 

So it's more like 3-1.

LJS9502_basic

Oh so I guess we cant post threads about white criminals, unlock my thread if you're gonna keep this openBucked20

Any thread that ends up like this will get locked. And lay off the demands. K?