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#51 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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I think so too, but people will soon come in the thread posting "oh noes conspiracy tin foil hats". :(Neon-Tiger
Or debunk it with, you know, facts.
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[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"]I think so too, but people will soon come in the thread posting "oh noes conspiracy tin foil hats". :(CombatHigh

Finally someone with brains on here.

Why God, why?

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#53 Darth-Caedus
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[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"]I think so too, but people will soon come in the thread posting "oh noes conspiracy tin foil hats". :(-Sun_Tzu-

Oh noez conspiracy tin foil hats

Damn it you beat me to it!:x

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[QUOTE="optiow"]I don't really care. It has happened, who cares how? but it has happened.CombatHigh
It greatly disturbs me that my country is in cahoots with isreal, the most evil force on the planet.

More eviler than skeletor?
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#55 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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Theokhoth
Thank god. You should also probably list this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
Most of the time, you can debunk these theories with pure logic.
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#56 Ninja-Hippo
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I think it's sad that people who simply look at some of the strange questions or gaps in the official stories are painted with the same brush as conspiracy theorists. I honestly consider people who so adamantly accept everything we've been told about 9/11 just as bad as those who insist it was all the mastermind plan of George Bush.
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#57 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"]I think so too, but people will soon come in the thread posting "oh noes conspiracy tin foil hats". :(jaydough
Or debunk it with, you know, facts.

There are to date no 'facts' explaining the multitude of large explosions which occurred on the lower levels and in the basement of the tower.
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#58 Theokhoth
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There are to date no 'facts' explaining the multitude of large explosions which occurred on the lower levels and in the basement of the tower. Ninja-Hippo

Sounds of explosions

Theokhoth

Just ignore and explain those holes with bigger holes. It's not like jet fuel, fire hydrants, electrical equipment, or gas lines ever explode when a building is collapsing. And it most certainly couldn't be air pressure from the pancake effect.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"]I think so too, but people will soon come in the thread posting "oh noes conspiracy tin foil hats". :(Ninja-Hippo
Or debunk it with, you know, facts.

There are to date no 'facts' explaining the multitude of large explosions which occurred on the lower levels and in the basement of the tower.

The pancaking effect blows debris out the windows which makes it look like an "explosion", office supplies can sound like "booms" when they come crashing down, etc. etc. etc.
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[QUOTE="CombatHigh"][QUOTE="jasperrussell"] you could just say arabs planted the bombs. how do you explain osama coming out with a video claiming responsibility?PlasmaBeam44

Osama is a cia agent he has been linked with the us government before 911, and about arabs planting bombs, thats just absurd (no offence).

You lost me there bro.

Well you must be the worlds only person who doesn't know the the USA founded Al Qaeda :roll:
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#61 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

[QUOTE="CombatHigh"] Osama is a cia agent he has been linked with the us government before 911, and about arabs planting bombs, thats just absurd (no offence).Rainbow_Lion

You lost me there bro.

Well you must be the worlds only person who doesn't know the the USA founded Al Qaeda :roll:

That does NOT mean Osama is a CIA agent. :roll:

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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

[QUOTE="CombatHigh"] Osama is a cia agent he has been linked with the us government before 911, and about arabs planting bombs, thats just absurd (no offence).Rainbow_Lion

You lost me there bro.

Well you must be the worlds only person who doesn't know the the USA founded Al Qaeda :roll:

That doesn't mean he's a CIA agent.
Edit: Damn it, Theo, I'm always one post late.
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#63 Rainbow_Lion
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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

You lost me there bro.

Theokhoth

Well you must be the worlds only person who doesn't know the the USA founded Al Qaeda :roll:

That does NOT mean Osama is a CIA agent. :roll:

:roll: ok if you say so because homeless people in caves thousands of miles away are capable of pulling off an attack on the USA mainland without any help? Now who's the nut? :lol:
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#64 redbaron3
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THIS JUST IN! Lizard people are Real! Scientology is FACT! JFK was killed by the CIA, a UFO WAS discovered at Roswell, Princess Diana WAS murdered by the Royal Family, FDR was behind Pearl Harbor, we NEVER landed on the moon, And the titanic was not sunk by an iceberg sense we all know steel is steel is stronger than ice!
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] Well you must be the worlds only person who doesn't know the the USA founded Al Qaeda :roll:Rainbow_Lion

That does NOT mean Osama is a CIA agent. :roll:

:roll: ok if you say so because homeless people in caves thousands of miles away are capable of pulling off an attack on the USA mainland without any help? Now who's the nut? :lol:

Why do you say they're homeless? Terrorist organizations can't afford box cutters and plane tickets?
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] Well you must be the worlds only person who doesn't know the the USA founded Al Qaeda :roll:Rainbow_Lion

That does NOT mean Osama is a CIA agent. :roll:

:roll: ok if you say so because homeless people in caves thousands of miles away are capable of pulling off an attack on the USA mainland without any help? Now who's the nut? :lol:

Der, they were a privately funded terrorist organisation with trained terroists. They didn't "not have help," they didn't live in caves at the time of the attacks, and even if they had, it's not impossible by any stretch of the imagination.

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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

That does NOT mean Osama is a CIA agent. :roll:

Theokhoth

:roll: ok if you say so because homeless people in caves thousands of miles away are capable of pulling off an attack on the USA mainland without any help? Now who's the nut? :lol:

Der, they were a privately funded terrorist organisation with trained terroists. They didn't "not have help," they didn't live in caves at the time of the attacks, and even if they had, it's not impossible by any stretch of the imagination.

Hah! How do you feel? :x
[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]
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*waits for theokhoth*warbmxjohn

Whats funny is I said this 5 posts into this topic, and lo and behold, the conspiracy slayer has triumphantly marched in to handle this thread.

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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

That does NOT mean Osama is a CIA agent. :roll:

jaydough

:roll: ok if you say so because homeless people in caves thousands of miles away are capable of pulling off an attack on the USA mainland without any help? Now who's the nut? :lol:

Why do you say they're homeless? Terrorist organizations can't afford box cutters and plane tickets?

You haven't got a clue what you're on about, I suggest you do some research on Afghanistan, oh and whilst you're at it maybe you can tell me where Bin Laden is from and how many of the hijackers were Afghani's?

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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

*waits for theokhoth*warbmxjohn

Whats funny is I said this 5 posts into this topic, and lo and behold, the conspiracy slayer has triumphantly marched in to handle this thread.

And his humble servant.
:D
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

*waits for theokhoth*warbmxjohn

Whats funny is I said this 5 posts into this topic, and lo and behold, the conspiracy slayer has triumphantly marched in to handle this thread.

Yep!

Now obey the government! YOMYOMYOMYOM

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#72 warbmxjohn
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

*waits for theokhoth*jaydough

Whats funny is I said this 5 posts into this topic, and lo and behold, the conspiracy slayer has triumphantly marched in to handle this thread.

And his humble servant.
:D

Loyal to the end eh? :P

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] :roll: ok if you say so because homeless people in caves thousands of miles away are capable of pulling off an attack on the USA mainland without any help? Now who's the nut? :lol:Rainbow_Lion

Why do you say they're homeless? Terrorist organizations can't afford box cutters and plane tickets?

You haven't got a clue what you're on about, I suggest you do some research on Afghanistan, oh and whilst you're at it maybe you can tell me where Bin Laden is from and how many of the hijackers were Afghani's?

Let's see... Afghanistan starts with an "A".
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] :roll: ok if you say so because homeless people in caves thousands of miles away are capable of pulling off an attack on the USA mainland without any help? Now who's the nut? :lol:jaydough

Der, they were a privately funded terrorist organisation with trained terroists. They didn't "not have help," they didn't live in caves at the time of the attacks, and even if they had, it's not impossible by any stretch of the imagination.

Hah! How do you feel?

I feel like asking you why was there no air defense over the USA that day and I feel like asking you what Afghanistan has got to do with hijacking planes since they were predominatly saudi's that's what I feel like asking you, oh and what does george bushes butt taste like?

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Der, they were a privately funded terrorist organisation with trained terroists. They didn't "not have help," they didn't live in caves at the time of the attacks, and even if they had, it's not impossible by any stretch of the imagination.

Rainbow_Lion

Hah! How do you feel?

I feel like asking you why was there no air defense over the USA that day and I feel like asking you what Afghanistan has got to do with hijacking planes since they were predominatly saudi's that's what I feel like asking you, oh and what does george bushes butt taste like?

I'd imagine it tasting like the rest of him, because he's an ass in all aspects.
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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Der, they were a privately funded terrorist organisation with trained terroists. They didn't "not have help," they didn't live in caves at the time of the attacks, and even if they had, it's not impossible by any stretch of the imagination.

Rainbow_Lion

Hah! How do you feel?

I feel like asking you why was there no air defense over the USA that day and I feel like asking you what Afghanistan has got to do with hijacking planes since they were predominatly saudi's that's what I feel like asking you, oh and what does george bushes butt taste like?

Yes there was.
Osama was hiding in Afghanistan.
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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Der, they were a privately funded terrorist organisation with trained terroists. They didn't "not have help," they didn't live in caves at the time of the attacks, and even if they had, it's not impossible by any stretch of the imagination.

Rainbow_Lion

Hah! How do you feel?

I feel like asking you why was there no air defense over the USA that day and I feel like asking you what Afghanistan has got to do with hijacking planes since they were predominatly saudi's that's what I feel like asking you, oh and what does george bushes butt taste like?

Did you not read my links?

"No, because they have the answers to my questions but I don't want to hear them because they contradict my naive view of the government as a big, bad Orwellian entity bent on world domination."

Because they answer all but your last question. The answer to that is lavender. Yes, I was surprised, too.

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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] Hah! How do you feel? jaydough

I feel like asking you why was there no air defense over the USA that day and I feel like asking you what Afghanistan has got to do with hijacking planes since they were predominatly saudi's that's what I feel like asking you, oh and what does george bushes butt taste like?

I'd imagine it tasting like the rest of him, because he's an ass in all aspects.

:lol:
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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] Hah! How do you feel? Theokhoth

I feel like asking you why was there no air defense over the USA that day and I feel like asking you what Afghanistan has got to do with hijacking planes since they were predominatly saudi's that's what I feel like asking you, oh and what does george bushes butt taste like?

Did you not read my links?

"No, because they have the answers to my questions but I don't want to hear them because they contradict my naive view of the government as a big, bad Orwellian entity bent on world domination."

Because all but your last question. The answer to that is lavender. Yes, I was surprised, too.

I like his soap. It also has hints of lilacs. ^_^
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No, it was all the fault of the Freemasons and Illuminati!

What? Who's that banging on my door! No! What! Noooooo... I promise to be good, I won't speak out against you any more! Oh please, no!...........*gets dragged away*

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] What? Who's that banging on my door! No! What! Noooooo... I promise to be good, I won't speak out against you any more! Oh please, no!...........*gets dragged away*

Don't worry buddy! I'll save you!
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[QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] What? Who's that banging on my door! No! What! Noooooo... I promise to be good, I won't speak out against you any more! Oh please, no!...........*gets dragged away*

Don't worry buddy! I'll save you!

It's a good thing I'm a de-information officer. Now I know where you both live. :D
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[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"]

[QUOTE="CombatHigh"]Osama is a cia agent11Marcel

I'm contemplating on sigging this

Actually, it could be true because osama bin laden was the leader of an organization set up by the CIA in the war between afghanistan and russia. Out of the militant groups that the CIA armed and funded in that war resulted the taliban and al qaeda. If you want a more reliable documentary on this, google "the power of nightmares". It also explains why there probably is no huge complicated network of terrorists like the media wants you to believe.

We also initially supported Saddam and Castro. That doesn't mean that they're still in our pocket.
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No, it was all the fault of the Freemasons and Illuminati!chessmaster1989
I can say with honesty that we Illuminati had nothing to do with it. It was actually one of the few major events in the past hundred years that we had no bearing on whatsoever. We were, however, able to take advantage of the chaos formed afterward.
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]No, it was all the fault of the Freemasons and Illuminati!thepwninator
I can say with honesty that we Illuminati had nothing to do with it. It was actually one of the few major events in the past hundred years that we had no bearing on whatsoever. We were, however, able to take advantage of the chaos formed afterward.

'kay, when you guys keep being responsible for just about everything bad, it's only fair to assume that you're responsible in the few instances when you actually aren't.

Cut me some slack here :x

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[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]No, it was all the fault of the Freemasons and Illuminati!chessmaster1989

I can say with honesty that we Illuminati had nothing to do with it. It was actually one of the few major events in the past hundred years that we had no bearing on whatsoever. We were, however, able to take advantage of the chaos formed afterward.

'kay, when you guys keep being responsible for just about everything bad, it's only fair to assume that you're responsible in the few instances when you actually aren't.

Cut me some slack here :x

Well, in the long run, I wouldn't call what we do "bad". Sure, they may cause some problems in the short run, but, overall, it is done with the goal of preserving order.
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[QUOTE="optiow"]I don't really care. It has happened, who cares how? but it has happened.CombatHigh
It greatly disturbs me that my country is in cahoots with isreal, the most evil force on the planet.

Wrong, The U.S is the most evil force on the planet.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] There are to date no 'facts' explaining the multitude of large explosions which occurred on the lower levels and in the basement of the tower. Theokhoth

Sounds of explosions

Theokhoth

Just ignore and explain those holes with bigger holes. It's not like jet fuel, fire hydrants, electrical equipment, or gas lines ever explode when a building is collapsing. And it most certainly couldn't be air pressure from the pancake effect.

Yes they obviously explode; not 20 floors lower than they impacted though, and certainly not in basements, and certainly not that length of time after the impact. You 'debunk' these things with the same levels of close-mindedness that the conspiracy theorists you despise so much claim it was all a ploy by space chimps.
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I don't really believe it was a inside job by the american government to go to war.. but there is alot more to it than the initial Plane crashes. they hit the top of the tower but yet the towers fell straight down as if they were professionally demolished. the architects wouldn't have been so stupid as to make a building that tall which could be compromised by an air collision (which they would have to take into consideration at some point because of the size of the building.)

The ones that carried it out were alot smarter and well prepared than a few people with a bomb on an airplane.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Der, they were a privately funded terrorist organisation with trained terroists. They didn't "not have help," they didn't live in caves at the time of the attacks, and even if they had, it's not impossible by any stretch of the imagination.

Rainbow_Lion

Hah! How do you feel?

I feel like asking you why was there no air defense over the USA that day and I feel like asking you what Afghanistan has got to do with hijacking planes since they were predominatly saudi's that's what I feel like asking you, oh and what does george bushes butt taste like?

Osama was a Saudi but ran the base in Afghanistan. and there is never air defense over the USA. our airforce is always grounded unless scrambled and that thats a while to do. if you knew how a military base was run. and by the time we found out the planes were hijacked it was too late
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#91 FUBAR24
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I don't really believe it was a inside job by the american government to go to war.. but there is alot more to it than the initial Plane crashes. they hit the top of the tower but yet the towers fell straight down as if they were professionally demolished. the architects wouldn't have been so stupid as to make a building that tall which could be compromised by an air collision (which they would have to take into consideration at some point because of the size of the building.)

The ones that carried it out were alot smarter and well prepared than a few people with a bomb on an airplane.

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it wasnt taken down from the bottom :| the impact floor collapsed and the weight from the top of the towers crushed those below
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#92 Wasdie  Moderator
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Why do you support these theories from websites?

Why would anybody believe that the American government did this? Why? Becuase the media hated Bush so much that nothing was true during his election time and now Obama is the savior that will bring world peach. Duh.

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#93 194197844077667059316682358889
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Osama is a cia agent he has been linked with the us government before 911, and about arabs planting bombs, thats just absurd (no offence).CombatHigh
The very quintessence of dramatic irony.
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#94 bigblunt537
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I hate watching those videos. They always remind me for that day.I was in 8th grade and some girl turns and says whats all that smoke out the window, but the teacher had no answer because she hadn't known what happened yet. About an hour or 2 later you could see papers flying everywhere and I live in Brooklyn no where near the towers. Damn sad day. I'm happy that at least most of those responsible are dead. If the conspiracy is right then its partially our fault for electing these people, but honestly I don't know much about politics to make that judgement.

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#95 RiseAgainst12
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[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

I don't really believe it was a inside job by the american government to go to war.. but there is alot more to it than the initial Plane crashes. they hit the top of the tower but yet the towers fell straight down as if they were professionally demolished. the architects wouldn't have been so stupid as to make a building that tall which could be compromised by an air collision (which they would have to take into consideration at some point because of the size of the building.)

The ones that carried it out were alot smarter and well prepared than a few people with a bomb on an airplane.

FUBAR24
it wasnt taken down from the bottom :| the impact floor collapsed and the weight from the top of the towers crushed those below

no, i never said it was demolished from the bottom.. would appreciate if you didnt put words in my mouth :P but if you watch as it comes down, it falls straight.. you would expect it to be a bit messier than a straight fall to the ground.
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#96 FUBAR24
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[QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

I don't really believe it was a inside job by the american government to go to war.. but there is alot more to it than the initial Plane crashes. they hit the top of the tower but yet the towers fell straight down as if they were professionally demolished. the architects wouldn't have been so stupid as to make a building that tall which could be compromised by an air collision (which they would have to take into consideration at some point because of the size of the building.)

The ones that carried it out were alot smarter and well prepared than a few people with a bomb on an airplane.

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it wasnt taken down from the bottom :| the impact floor collapsed and the weight from the top of the towers crushed those below

no, i never said it was demolished from the bottom.. would appreciate if you didnt put words in my mouth :P but if you watch as it comes down, it falls straight.. you would expect it to be a bit messier than a straight fall to the ground.

yeah but even controlled demos dont fall straight down. so even if it was an inside job it was destroyed by bombs
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#97 McJugga
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Even if there was an explosion, the terrorists could have planted the bombs...
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#98 Trinners
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Weren't the two terrorist hijackers of the two planes that hit the twin towers on the FBI watchlist. There's a documentary on the investigation probe that showed that the two men were stopped at the airport by airport personnel via FBI phonecalls because they were on the watchlist but then got a call from above to let them through.

Now that seems a bit odd don't you think

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#99 phillo99
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Weren't the two terrorist hijackers of the two planes that hit the twin towers on the FBI watchlist. There's a documentary on the investigation probe that showed that the two men were stopped at the airport by airport personnel via FBI phonecalls because they were on the watchlist but then got a call from above to let them through.

Now that seems a bit odd don't you think

Trinners

The source not being there is also odd, don't you think?

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#100 Redgarl
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You are absolutely right.. and as far as I know, all the name of the terrorists were american... :roll:

Seriously, if it was an inside job, would dare explain me why they did it? If they simply wanted to clean the World trade center, they would have implose it... at least, it would have cost way less than making a terrorist attack with the allusion of an inside job.

You need to be really dumb to actually believing in that kind of stuff that doesn't bring any rationnal view of the situation except seeing the world burns... of course a feeling that anyone share with me...