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Yeah, I think it's laziness mixed with a sense of entitlement. I mean... we have to work in order to contribute positively towards society, we can't get food and housing, and education, and luxuries because we just deserve them by some right.I don't think I deserve anything. I'm just telling it like it is. The reality of life for most. Repetetive. Mundane. Pushes a man to the edge. One day he might just snap. Or he might just keep on beating his head against the desk when no one is looking. I am happy for you if you don't see the way I do. I wish I could step out of this mentality. Reality is in the eye of the beholder. You just have to actively think positively. Think about the things you really like about your job (there must be something... a cute girl that works there maybe? Or surely your paycheck, at least), and just focus on them. Don't think about the negatives of your job, just think of them as necessary tasks to have the benefits you really enjoy. All you have to do to change your perception, is change it. I always get feelings of being down, but I just remember that feeling depressed is lame, and I try to snap out of it, and do something productive/fun.[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="Animatronic64"] Don't think lazy has anything to do with it. Repetitive and mundane tasks can drive people insane over time. I guess some people aren't deep enough thinkers to notice that they're doing the exact ****ing thing over and over.
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My worry is health I almost done college and now I just fully started working out and eating moderately healthy and seeing results. I feel 9-5 will ruin the diet routine or fatigue me. Another issue is looking for a job with a decent wage or fun to do.shadowkiller11
I feel the same thing, I work out 6 days a week because I like it and I get great results. If I was gong to start working 9-5 it would exaust me totally, so all my hard work I put down atm would go to waste. Aw well... at least I will have a fun job!
[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]My worry is health I almost done college and now I just fully started working out and eating moderately healthy and seeing results. I feel 9-5 will ruin the diet routine or fatigue me. Another issue is looking for a job with a decent wage or fun to do.kriggy
I feel the same thing, I work out 6 days a week because I like it and I get great results. If I was gong to start working 9-5 it would exaust me totally, so all my hard work I put down atm would go to waste. Aw well... at least I will have a fun job!
...either you both lack enough desire or you are acting like babies. Just workout before work. Before you ask/make claims -that is what I do -at the gym by 4am -work by 6am -work 50 hour weeksTry department store retail hours. was 9 AM til 8 PM today, that happens every week. Normal hours are 9 AM til 6 PM ....PC360Wii
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[QUOTE="kriggy"][QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]My worry is health I almost done college and now I just fully started working out and eating moderately healthy and seeing results. I feel 9-5 will ruin the diet routine or fatigue me. Another issue is looking for a job with a decent wage or fun to do.rawsavon
I feel the same thing, I work out 6 days a week because I like it and I get great results. If I was gong to start working 9-5 it would exaust me totally, so all my hard work I put down atm would go to waste. Aw well... at least I will have a fun job!
...either you both lack enough desire or you are acting like babies. Just workout before work. Before you ask/make claims -that is what I do -at the gym by 4am -work by 6am -work 50 hour weeksYou are a machine :O! But ofcourse, I will do my best to find a sollution that suits me in the future, I'm just so comfortable in how I plan my days atm.
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Finding something you enjoy doing is improtant, but I find most people don't do jobs they enjoy, they only do them because they have to. Some do it because they want to support their family, it gives them a purpose. But being me I have no family as I'm only 22 so it might be different for me, but I can't stand working jobs I hate, just menail ones or ones I go home exhausted.
It's not worth it to me (right now anyway). Mabey it might sound like I'm lazy, but I just think enjoying life is the most important. Guess I should find something I enjoy doing then.... Still doesn't change my point though, why do we have to work so much? Why does it have to be a part of life?
I understand where your coming from but shouldn't we step back and look at the system? I for one think that people who work 40 hours a week should get more vaction time throughout the year, not just two weeks a year or whatever, like a month off or something.
First off, menial jobs aren't for everyone, I agree. But you are 22, so you can pick any career you want. That is the way you should look at your job btw as a career. If you are just punching a clock everyday with no plan for upward mobility, or if your qualifications/education/credentials don't allow for advancement in the line of work you're in, you need to change that. And the U.S.A. is one of the best places on earth to improve your job qualifications.
Say what you will about america and our problems, but just about any citizen can get money one way or the other for college/technical school; or they can join the military and learn a great trade while serving the country.
I don't think the system is that bad. Like I said if you like your job, and you are doing something meaningful, it really helps alleviate some of the other things. We could use more vacation, but I don't think that's too much of a big deal considering how much Americans call in.
...either you both lack enough desire or you are acting like babies. Just workout before work. Before you ask/make claims -that is what I do -at the gym by 4am -work by 6am -work 50 hour weeks[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="kriggy"]
I feel the same thing, I work out 6 days a week because I like it and I get great results. If I was gong to start working 9-5 it would exaust me totally, so all my hard work I put down atm would go to waste. Aw well... at least I will have a fun job!
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You are a machine :O! But ofcourse, I will do my best to find a sollution that suits me in the future, I'm just so comfortable in how I plan my days atm.
After work workouts suck IMO. But I know people that work out on lunch instead of before work. Planning your diet is usually the biggest thing as office jobs are not always conducive to eating right. ...it is like they try and make you fat (people always want you to go eat, people always baking stuff, etc)It's not that bad if you have frequent challenges and are doing something you enjoy with like-minded people. I think working makes you (or me personally) appreciate life more; if I'm lazing about too long I rapidly take it for granted.
it's funny that people today work more than foragers did, in fact people today work more than any generation before, at least that we're aware of.
it's funny that people today work more than foragers did, in fact people today work more than any generation before, at least that we're aware of.afflictatrophyIt takes a lot of work to support a heavily consumptive lifestyle. If we lived the lives of foragers (shamanist visions, making children, weaving genital coverings and maintaining a feud every little while), it wouldn't take much work to keep it up. But we all live in our individual homes with a nuclear family unit, sometimes even less people, and entertainment requires significant investment. Climbing trees and chasing bugs just doesn't do it for everyone anymore. Sustainable lifestyles don't need to be primitive to work.
I used to work as a dishwasher form 5pm-closing which varied depending on how busy we were. Some days I wouldn't leave until 3am though I did only work 4 days. I think any job would be hell unless you really love it. Having to do mundane and repetitive tasks will take it's toll on anyone.
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Second shift is the worst. I used to work 4-12. Your social life is gone when you work that shift.
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I used to work 11pm to 7am.... Tuesday to Saturday. Fvcking killed me for that year. Now, I'm on a 9-5 shift and love it....
I would actually take a 3rd shift over a 2nd shift. I used to work a swing shift. Some weeks I would be 1st shift, others 2nd, and sometimes 3rd. I hated 2nd shift the most.
Once I got my sleeping pattern down, 3rd shift wasn't bad.
4pm to 12 am wud be epic for me i love getting getting up late i despise getting up in le mornings quake live gamers have no social lives, so it's perfect for meAt least 9-5 jobs allow you to have a regular sleeping schedule and weekends off. I would kill for that. When I go to back to university my work roster will be:
At least 9-5 jobs allow you to have a regular sleeping schedule and weekends off. I would kill for that.daqua_99would you? because you could just find someone of a similar build with that kind of job kill them and steal their face
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Try department store retail hours. was 9 AM til 8 PM today, that happens every week. Normal hours are 9 AM til 6 PM ....Optical_Order
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Nah 2 more months and I'm back to Uni for MSc Computer Science :D ... I have survived the year![QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"] -- as is 4pm-12am.bobabanAre you high? Swings and Mids are great shifts. Not really. You basically have no life. I'm trying to go back to 9-5, at least other people are free after 6pm. Military is a little different.
The industrialised society required people to become cogs for a machine. Is kind of better now for some people but look at China for example, those repetitive tasks to make and produce things require people to renounce a big part of their humanity, for example it doesn't reward creative thought but just following orders. These kind of workforce is required to be stupid and that's why it goes paired with bad education (although it goes along well with good technical education), any thinking, critical individual will become crazy in a heartbeat. That's why I'm very careful to call what humans have accomplished progress, in many ways it seems we're going backwards from humans to dumb machines.it's funny that people today work more than foragers did, in fact people today work more than any generation before, at least that we're aware of.
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I've lived my entire life in the country and am "diagnosed" with ADHD, so I can honestly say that I wouldn't last a day living like that.
This is why I'm f-ing scared of getting a full time job soon lol. How could you live your life like that with no freedom, everyday? I'd go mad :(
Your life is what you make of it, not what others make of it. If you're unhappy then go after a different job. Ghost_702
I hate when people say stuff like this. its not that simple man..
I work graveyard shift five nights a week and if I didn't get paid so damn well I'd go on a murderous rampage and kill everyone.
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