96% of Florida Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]I see, Well if that is the case, then maybe we can look forward to maybe 16,000 more people turning to crime, and subsequently paying for 16,000 more jail cells and meals that need to be paid for?ad1x2

I didn't say all 16,000 were drug users. I'll be generous, make up a number, and say that 10,000 of that 16,000 were drug users and the rest were people who either moved or got better jobs. Out of that 10,000 it's a good chance most of them will just wait 30 days and apply since that's about how long it takes THC to get out of your urine. Then, you'll have a few who will just move to Georgia and other nearby states since they're not testing up there and they'll probably still be eligible for welfare in those states. Only a very small fraction of them will turn to crime, assuming that you forget that buying drugs in itself is illegal (no, I'm not going to debate whether or not they should be illegal, I'm just saying that if they were caught it would go on their record).

Part of the reason I joined the military was so I wouldn't have to live off of welfare but some people act like they're too good to do that or they won't do it because they know that we do random drug tests (I'm not counting the ones who can't join because they're disqualified). The funny thing is about a year ago I knew a woman who had three kids and was on welfare who decided to join the Army so she could get out of the projects. Her baby's father couldn't join because he had a felony conviction for selling drugs and he didn't want to marry her so she could enlist (she can't join unmarried with children) because he didn't want to lose his welfare. Needless to say, she left him, married somebody else, and enlisted anyway. Instead of complaining about people getting tested maybe you should wonder why they don't want to just improve their lives. Believe it or not, Medicaid covers rehab.

This is a classic example of someone wanting to better themselves and doing what it takes to do so. I have no problem with helping her get a leg up as she is as long as she is willing to help herself do so. People talk about getting an education, what better way of qualifying for a better education than joining the military (as long as you qualify and have a HS diploma) and making use of the GI Bill to go to college to have the chance to live even better after one gets out of the military?

Just a couple of years ago, there was a guy working for the same company I work for. He had moved down to Georgia from Michigan. He told us how he was scamming the system and getting food stamps from Michigan even though he was working and making fair money. He stated that when he ran out, he would just run back up to Michigan to get more. He may have not been doing drugs, but he was taking advantage of the system. I let Michigan know though I do not know the outcome of any investigation. That is what ticks me off and makes me a jaded enough to not want to help anyone. As long as there are people who cheat the system, it makes it hard for people to want to help those who really deserve it.

Forget about the drug tests, Let's put that aside and ask:

Why is the idea that the overwhelming majority of welfare recipients not using drugs so hard to believe?

Do people on OT believe that drug use is the main reason for poverty?

Forget about the drug tests, Let's put that aside and ask:

Why is the idea that the overwhelming majority of welfare recipients not using drugs so hard to believe?

Do people on OT believe that drug use is the main reason for poverty?

Blue-Sky

Or, perhaps common opinion is that there is enough justify drug testing? People don't generally cite drugs as the primary reason for poverty. Please, chill out with the rhetoric.

Forget about the drug tests, Let's put that aside and ask:

Why is the idea that the overwhelming majority of welfare recipients not using drugs so hard to believe?

Do people on OT believe that drug use is the main reason for poverty?

Blue-Sky

I doubt they think that. I'm pretty sure most people think that being broke is the main reason for poverty.

I have no problem believing that the vast majority of welfare recipients don't use drugs. But I find it a little hard to swallow that only two percent do. It's probably more like only two percent got caught and everybody else who used drugs either took some cleanser, rolled the dice and got lucky by not come up positive, or just flat out didn't show up for benefits when the drug testing started.

If you go by OT logic, EVERYBODY who doesn't have a job that requires drug testing proudly smokes pot except for stuck-up Conservatives that want to destroy the Space-Time Continuum with their evil policies. Of course, due to the TOU they won't directly admit to personally using pot.