Does a girl who has previously date a attractive guy, even find average guys as a viable option?
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Not exactly a viable option but more of a consolation prizeDoes a girl who has previously date a attractive guy, even find average guys as a viable option?
maptheninja
Sure. You may be surprised what some girls consider super attractive and what they don't. Physical appearance isn't everything.
binpink
Yes i know. but with my current generation it does alot more
[QUOTE="binpink"]...so you are saying that I have a chance >_>Sure. You may be surprised what some girls consider super attractive and what they don't. Physical appearance isn't everything.
rawsavon
[QUOTE="binpink"]
Sure. You may be surprised what some girls consider super attractive and what they don't. Physical appearance isn't everything.
maptheninja
Yes i know. but with my current generation it does alot more
They think Justin Bieber is attractive. That should be your answer.[QUOTE="maptheninja"][QUOTE="binpink"]
Sure. You may be surprised what some girls consider super attractive and what they don't. Physical appearance isn't everything.
ayanami_rei
Yes i know. but with my current generation it does alot more
They think Justin Bieber is attractive. That should be your answer.The fact that you mentioned justin bieber in this thread is somewhat of an insult
Well it's true 95% still is not everythingSure. You may be surprised what some girls consider super attractive and what they don't. Physical appearance isn't everything.
binpink
Too damn bad. I was giving you an example of average attraction and thus answered your question.The fact that you mentioned justin bieber in this thread is somewhat of an insult
maptheninja
[QUOTE="Darthkaiser"] Well it's true 95% still is not everythingbinpink
It's important, yea, at every point in a relationship. However WHAT or WHO is attractive to certain people in the first place can't be pinned down so easily.
Indeed, but on a general concept (generalizing population of the early XXI century) Attractiveness + Self Esteem= Win Attractiveness is quite important, the human being makes a impression of a person the very first 30 seconds of meeting. Attractiveness helps you suceed at those 30 seconds and self esteem and confidence for the rest of it. Without the first you can't even get to "the rest of it" If one would make an easier example for TC think of attractiveness as smell and what's on the inside the taste.. No matter how great it taastes the food if it smells like s*** one will most likely avoid it. Summing up TC attractiveness counts and is very important. but it's not the whole thing because........there people who eat food that smell like s*** anywayIndeed, but on a general concept (generalizing population of the early XXI century) Attractiveness + Self Esteem= Win Attractiveness is quite important, the human being makes a impression of a person the very first 30 seconds of meeting. Attractiveness helps you suceed at those 30 seconds and self esteem and confidence for the rest of it. Without the first you can't even get to "the rest of it" If one would make an easier example for TC think of attractiveness as smell and what's on the inside the taste.. No matter how great it taastes the food if it smells like s*** one will most likely avoid it. Summing up TC attractiveness counts and is very important. but it's not the whole thing because........there people who eat food that smell like s*** anywayDarthkaiser
I guess I'm just trying to make it simpler for TC but whatever. Plus I'm trying to answer his question from another angle. Oh well. Everyone knows physical attractiveness is important.
[QUOTE="Darthkaiser"]Indeed, but on a general concept (generalizing population of the early XXI century) Attractiveness + Self Esteem= Win Attractiveness is quite important, the human being makes a impression of a person the very first 30 seconds of meeting. Attractiveness helps you suceed at those 30 seconds and self esteem and confidence for the rest of it. Without the first you can't even get to "the rest of it" If one would make an easier example for TC think of attractiveness as smell and what's on the inside the taste.. No matter how great it taastes the food if it smells like s*** one will most likely avoid it. Summing up TC attractiveness counts and is very important. but it's not the whole thing because........there people who eat food that smell like s*** anywaybinpink
I guess I'm just trying to make it simpler for TC but whatever. Plus I'm trying to answer his question from another angle. Oh well. Everyone knows physical attractiveness is important.
Yes but even with your angle, there is definitely criteria that you can set that the vast majority of women will feel make a man attractive, such as a muscular build (but not too buff), being tall, having the mature "chiseled" look.
Oh and physical attractiveness accounts for about 99.9% of things I feel. Quite frankly no one is going to date someone they find to be ugly, and quite frankly if there is a choice to be made I feel alot of people will go for the physically attractive person rather than the person with the better personality BUT will try and create a friendship with the unnattractive one. My life has pretty much been a testament to this...
You know, people always talk about men's unrealistic expectations of the female body caused by the media. Fact is, women are just as bad.WarriorsCreed
Honestly, they are probably worse.
I have been prousing the online dating scene and it is a wee bit ridiculous.
When ever women specify what they want in a guy, it is some tall, usually bearded man.
I have had everything point to me and girls being a good match (answered questions similarly, similar interests and goals, etc.) and yet STILL won't even get so much as a reply when I message them....
Hell, I had a girl IRL constantly texting me, calling me on a semi-daily basis to talk about her day, and we were hanging out quite often and I STILL got rejected when I asked her out (granted she turned out to be a bad person with the **** she came out with so it didn't really matter anyways as it made her completely un-dateable to me)...
[QUOTE="WarriorsCreed"]You know, people always talk about men's unrealistic expectations of the female body caused by the media. Fact is, women are just as bad.LostProphetFLCL
Honestly, they are probably worse.
I have been prousing the online dating scene and it is a wee bit ridiculous.
When ever women specify what they want in a guy, it is some tall, usually bearded man.
I have had everything point to me and girls being a good match (answered questions similarly, similar interests and goals, etc.) and yet STILL won't even get so much as a reply when I message them....
Hell, I had a girl IRL constantly texting me, calling me on a semi-daily basis to talk about her day, and we were hanging out quite often and I STILL got rejected when I asked her out (granted she turned out to be a bad person with the **** she came out with so it didn't really matter anyways as it made her completely un-dateable to me)...
I find no issue with people being picky. It might result in fewer options, but the options will have a higher chance of success (happiness)[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="WarriorsCreed"]You know, people always talk about men's unrealistic expectations of the female body caused by the media. Fact is, women are just as bad.rawsavon
Honestly, they are probably worse.
I have been prousing the online dating scene and it is a wee bit ridiculous.
When ever women specify what they want in a guy, it is some tall, usually bearded man.
I have had everything point to me and girls being a good match (answered questions similarly, similar interests and goals, etc.) and yet STILL won't even get so much as a reply when I message them....
Hell, I had a girl IRL constantly texting me, calling me on a semi-daily basis to talk about her day, and we were hanging out quite often and I STILL got rejected when I asked her out (granted she turned out to be a bad person with the **** she came out with so it didn't really matter anyways as it made her completely un-dateable to me)...
I find no issue with people being picky. It might result in fewer options, but the options will have a higher chance of success (happiness)The problem is the pickiness really only seems to exist when it comes to looks. The fact that someone like The Situation can get loads of women says alot (not that guys aren't guilty of this as well).
And honestly, I think more than just being picky, I think alot of people have completelt stupid expectations for relationships and the crap we have shoved down our throats in Hollywood movies just makes it worse.
It seems to me that most people have no concept of how relationships are not just going to be sunshine and rainbows and in fact take lots of effort on BOTH sides. Girls are expecting some perfect looking white knight to sweep them off their feet and make everything better (Seriously this crap is getting so old too. Give me a women with at least A LITTLE freaking independence and ability to take the first step sometimes).
People just completely lack patience alot of the time and break-up for the dumbest reasons (OMG I am not as in love with them as when it started. Time to end it and yes I have seen that happen).
You know, people always talk about men's unrealistic expectations of the female body caused by the media. Fact is, women are just as bad.WarriorsCreed
Honestly, they are probably worse.
I have been prousing the online dating scene and it is a wee bit ridiculous.
When ever women specify what they want in a guy, it is some tall, usually bearded man.
I have had everything point to me and girls being a good match (answered questions similarly, similar interests and goals, etc.) and yet STILL won't even get so much as a reply when I message them....
Hell, I had a girl IRL constantly texting me, calling me on a semi-daily basis to talk about her day, and we were hanging out quite often and I STILL got rejected when I asked her out (granted she turned out to be a bad person with the **** she came out with so it didn't really matter anyways as it made her completely un-dateable to me)...
I find no issue with people being picky. It might result in fewer options, but the options will have a higher chance of success (happiness) Being picky is fine. Hell, I'm picky. I'm just picky in a very different way. It's when people are picky to the point of delusion that the problem occurs. People see some gorgeous actor, or victoria's secret model, or whatever, and they go "that's what I want." And they hold everyone to the same ridiculous, unatainable standard. Seriously, even media stars don't look like that when they haven't spent two hours on makeup and hair, and have a professional lighting crew to boot. I also disagree with you when you say that the options are more likely to bring them happiness. How many movie stars (or people in the same percentile of physical attractiveness) do you know that are more than a pretty face? How many find successful and meaningful relationships? So to repeat, my problem with pickyness only occurs in regards to unrealistic expectations of beauty. To be frank, most of the people who are shallow enough to fold to media sexualiztion are not the kind of people that I would want to ascociate with anyway, so in that regard I could care less. But there are a few good people out there who have been lost to the expectations of the stereotypical "hot guy," who might not have been that way otherwise.Yes but even with your angle, there is definitely criteria that you can set that the vast majority of women will feel make a man attractive, such as a muscular build (but not too buff), being tall, having the mature "chiseled" look.
Oh and physical attractiveness accounts for about 99.9% of things I feel. Quite frankly no one is going to date someone they find to be ugly, and quite frankly if there is a choice to be made I feel alot of people will go for the physically attractive person rather than the person with the better personality BUT will try and create a friendship with the unnattractive one. My life has pretty much been a testament to this...
Exactly my point, attractivness being smell and "inside beauty" the taste, everyone picks the food that smells good even after you find out it tastes bad afterwards and no one picks the one that smells like s*** even if the taste is awesome. A testament to this.....hmmm..frequent friendzone visitor I assume?? You're not alone mate happens to the best of usI find no issue with people being picky. It might result in fewer options, but the options will have a higher chance of success (happiness)[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
Honestly, they are probably worse.
I have been prousing the online dating scene and it is a wee bit ridiculous.
When ever women specify what they want in a guy, it is some tall, usually bearded man.
I have had everything point to me and girls being a good match (answered questions similarly, similar interests and goals, etc.) and yet STILL won't even get so much as a reply when I message them....
Hell, I had a girl IRL constantly texting me, calling me on a semi-daily basis to talk about her day, and we were hanging out quite often and I STILL got rejected when I asked her out (granted she turned out to be a bad person with the **** she came out with so it didn't really matter anyways as it made her completely un-dateable to me)...
LostProphetFLCL
The problem is the pickiness really only seems to exist when it comes to looks. The fact that someone like The Situation can get loads of women says alot (not that guys aren't guilty of this as well).
And honestly, I think more than just being picky, I think alot of people have completelt stupid expectations for relationships and the crap we have shoved down our throats in Hollywood movies just makes it worse.
It seems to me that most people have no concept of how relationships are not just going to be sunshine and rainbows and in fact take lots of effort on BOTH sides. Girls are expecting some perfect looking white knight to sweep them off their feet and make everything better (Seriously this crap is getting so old too. Give me a women with at least A LITTLE freaking independence and ability to take the first step sometimes).
People just completely lack patience alot of the time and break-up for the dumbest reasons (OMG I am not as in love with them as when it started. Time to end it and yes I have seen that happen).
That has not been my experience. But i guess that it has been yours. ...so that makes neither side right/wrong...just a matter of what we have seen I guess Though I thought your frustration came from not being able to get into a relationship (girls not going for that first step b/c of your height and how old you look) and not not really what happens after you get into one. But I could be wrong/misremembering what you said.[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]I find no issue with people being picky. It might result in fewer options, but the options will have a higher chance of success (happiness) Being picky is fine. Hell, I'm picky. I'm just picky in a very different way. It's when people are picky to the point of delusion that the problem occurs. People see some gorgeous actor, or victoria's secret model, or whatever, and they go "that's what I want." And they hold everyone to the same ridiculous, unatainable standard. Seriously, even media stars don't look like that when they haven't spent two hours on makeup and hair, and have a professional lighting crew to boot. I also disagree with you when you say that the options are more likely to bring them happiness. How many movie stars (or people in the same percentile of physical attractiveness) do you know that are more than a pretty face? How many find successful and meaningful relationships? So to repeat, my problem with pickyness only occurs in regards to unrealistic expectations of beauty. To be frank, most of the people who are shallow enough to fold to media sexualiztion are not the kind of people that I would want to ascociate with anyway, so in that regard I could care less. But there are a few good people out there who have been lost to the expectations of the stereotypical "hot guy," who might not have been that way otherwise.Honestly, they are probably worse.
I have been prousing the online dating scene and it is a wee bit ridiculous.
When ever women specify what they want in a guy, it is some tall, usually bearded man.
I have had everything point to me and girls being a good match (answered questions similarly, similar interests and goals, etc.) and yet STILL won't even get so much as a reply when I message them....
Hell, I had a girl IRL constantly texting me, calling me on a semi-daily basis to talk about her day, and we were hanging out quite often and I STILL got rejected when I asked her out (granted she turned out to be a bad person with the **** she came out with so it didn't really matter anyways as it made her completely un-dateable to me)...
WarriorsCreed
If there are people that have unrealistic expectations (if they truly are unrealistic), then they will never find someone b/c that had standards that could not be achieved.
-their loss and no one else's (who would be happy with someone like that)
If, on the other hand, they standards are achievable for them, then they are not unrealistic.
Also, the more you limit your options to what you really want (so long as they are obtainable), then the more likely you are to be happy when you actually find something that fits what you were looking for.
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] I find no issue with people being picky. It might result in fewer options, but the options will have a higher chance of success (happiness)rawsavon
The problem is the pickiness really only seems to exist when it comes to looks. The fact that someone like The Situation can get loads of women says alot (not that guys aren't guilty of this as well).
And honestly, I think more than just being picky, I think alot of people have completelt stupid expectations for relationships and the crap we have shoved down our throats in Hollywood movies just makes it worse.
It seems to me that most people have no concept of how relationships are not just going to be sunshine and rainbows and in fact take lots of effort on BOTH sides. Girls are expecting some perfect looking white knight to sweep them off their feet and make everything better (Seriously this crap is getting so old too. Give me a women with at least A LITTLE freaking independence and ability to take the first step sometimes).
People just completely lack patience alot of the time and break-up for the dumbest reasons (OMG I am not as in love with them as when it started. Time to end it and yes I have seen that happen).
That has not been my experience. But i guess that it has been yours. ...so that makes neither side right/wrong...just a matter of what we have seen I guess Though I thought your frustration came from not being able to get into a relationship (girls not going for that first step b/c of your height and how old you look) and not not really what happens after you get into one. But I could be wrong/misremembering what you said.Sorry if I confused people, but yes my problem is getting into a DATING relationship.
I easily make friends with women and have had older women (who are in relationships) ask me how I am not in a relationship (mainly because of how nice of a guy I am), yet I STILL cannot land a girlfriend...
It just boggles my mind that with having no trouble getting girls to like my personality, not a single one is willing to date me.
I have stopped talking to the last girl who rejected me because I can't help but think of her as a terrible person (she has cheated on multiple boyfriends and I am talking repeatedly with their best friend, and actually screwed around with my cousin/friend AT MY HOUSE WHILE I WAS IN THE SHOWER and this was when she was under the impression I was going to take her on a date...) and despite not wanting to date me, she kept texting me and calling me saying she missed me and ****...
yeah because girls dont really care about looks that much...their sexuality doesnt works that wayDoes a girl who has previously date a attractive guy, even find average guys as a viable option?
maptheninja
That has not been my experience. But i guess that it has been yours. ...so that makes neither side right/wrong...just a matter of what we have seen I guess Though I thought your frustration came from not being able to get into a relationship (girls not going for that first step b/c of your height and how old you look) and not not really what happens after you get into one. But I could be wrong/misremembering what you said.[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
The problem is the pickiness really only seems to exist when it comes to looks. The fact that someone like The Situation can get loads of women says alot (not that guys aren't guilty of this as well).
And honestly, I think more than just being picky, I think alot of people have completelt stupid expectations for relationships and the crap we have shoved down our throats in Hollywood movies just makes it worse.
It seems to me that most people have no concept of how relationships are not just going to be sunshine and rainbows and in fact take lots of effort on BOTH sides. Girls are expecting some perfect looking white knight to sweep them off their feet and make everything better (Seriously this crap is getting so old too. Give me a women with at least A LITTLE freaking independence and ability to take the first step sometimes).
People just completely lack patience alot of the time and break-up for the dumbest reasons (OMG I am not as in love with them as when it started. Time to end it and yes I have seen that happen).
LostProphetFLCL
Sorry if I confused people, but yes my problem is getting into a DATING relationship.
I easily make friends with women and have had older women (who are in relationships) ask me how I am not in a relationship (mainly because of how nice of a guy I am), yet I STILL cannot land a girlfriend...
It just boggles my mind that with having no trouble getting girls to like my personality, not a single one is willing to date me.
I have stopped talking to the last girl who rejected me because I can't help but think of her as a terrible person (she has cheated on multiple boyfriends and I am talking repeatedly with their best friend, and actually screwed around with my cousin/friend AT MY HOUSE WHILE I WAS IN THE SHOWER and this was when she was under the impression I was going to take her on a date...) and despite not wanting to date me, she kept texting me and calling me saying she missed me and ****...
TBH, I have no advice for you. ...well other than to get into great physical shape (that would make you look older [lose baby fat around face] and have the benefit of a great body). Then you would just need to find a girl that did not mind dating a short guy. As you stand now though, you have to find: -a girl that likes your personality (not that yours is bad, it is just something everyone has to consider...compatibility) -a girl that will date someone that looks really young -a girl that will date a short guy -a girl that will date a guy that is not that great of shape IMO, that is asking a lot (as far as dating goes...not just friends [which you seem to be good at]) I know it is not what you want to year, but I would not a date a girl that looked as young as you look (would make me feel 'weird'); I would not date a girl that was not in good shape; and if I were a girl, I think height would matter. You can like someone's personality all you want, but you have to want to **** them as well. I hope we are at the point were you don't take offense to my honesty. We have talked about similar stuff quite a bit, and I figured you would appreciate it (honesty). If not, I apologize.Please Log In to post.
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