A serious question for any religious user in here

Lets take a hypothetical situation. Dont answer with "well God would never ask me that!!" because there are precedents for things like this and you can't tell what God can o can't ask you.

So here is the situation:

You have a TRUE divine revelation. You have God in front of you and you know it is Him. He talks to you and says

"(*your name*) there are times in which people must prove his will and devotion to me. (*your name*), it is your time to show your love to me and prove that you will follow my very lead. Take this knife and slaughter (*the dearest person you have*). It is you (*your name*), that must kill (*the dearest person you have*), if you really love me and claim to be a true believer."

Afterwards you realize that there is a knife in your hand, that it was The Lord God who spoke you and asked you to kill the dearest person in the world. What do you do. Subit your will and life to your god, killing the dearest person there is, or do not kill and reject your god???

I'd ask for a Minigun. I want to make sure I don't miss...

I read this somewhere before. Doesn't God appear to you right before you slay your loved one and say, "LOL jk!" ??

Just a test of faith, God's angels would stay my hand before the deed was done. As they did with Abraham.

Just a test of faith, God's angels would stay my hand before the deed was done. As they did with Abraham.

ColonelWilks

Maybe that time... but I'm pretty sure more than a few love one's have been sacrificed to God because he asked...

Well, if one would believe the story of Abraham and Isaac, one could make a point that God WOULD ask you to that to prove his love to him.

Lets take a hypothetical situation. Dont answer with "well God would never ask me that!!" because there are precedents for things like this and you can't tell what God can o can't ask you.

So here is the situation:

You have a TRUE divine revelation. You have God in front of you and you know it is Him. He talks to you and says

"(*your name*) there are times in which people must prove his will and devotion to me. (*your name*), it is your time to show your love to me and prove that you will follow my very lead. Take this knife and slaughter (*the dearest person you have*). It is you (*your name*), that must kill (*the dearest person you have*), if you really love me and claim to be a true believer."

Afterwards you realize that there is a knife in your hand, that it was The Lord God who spoke you and asked you to kill the dearest person in the world. What do you do. Subit your will and life to your god, killing the dearest person there is, or do not kill and reject your god???

curono

Well, if one would believe the story of Abraham and Isaac, one could make a point that God WOULD ask you to that to prove his love to him.

SkyWard20

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

Well, if one would believe the story of Abraham and Isaac, one could make a point that God WOULD ask you to that to prove his love to him.

Ace6301

Considering Satan in not in the Old Testament, I very much doubt it was him... Satan is a New Testament creation, one that most religious scholars are not even really sure about...

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"]

Just a test of faith, God's angels would stay my hand before the deed was done. As they did with Abraham.

heysharpshooter

Maybe that time... but I'm pretty sure more than a few love one's have been sacrificed to God because he asked...

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

Well, if one would believe the story of Abraham and Isaac, one could make a point that God WOULD ask you to that to prove his love to him.

heysharpshooter

Considering Satan in not in the Old Testament, I very much doubt it was him... Satan is a New Testament creation, one that most religious scholars are not even really sure about...

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

Well, if one would believe the story of Abraham and Isaac, one could make a point that God WOULD ask you to that to prove his love to him.

Ace6301

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"]

Just a test of faith, God's angels would stay my hand before the deed was done. As they did with Abraham.

ColonelWilks

Maybe that time... but I'm pretty sure more than a few love one's have been sacrificed to God because he asked...

I'd know it wasn't him....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"]

Just a test of faith, God's angels would stay my hand before the deed was done. As they did with Abraham.

ColonelWilks

Maybe that time... but I'm pretty sure more than a few love one's have been sacrificed to God because he asked...

Really... nothing... honestly?

Isn't this what a lot of serial killers say - "God told me to kill"

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Probably was Satan. When God found out there was probably a bad sitcom fade out with "That's our satan" being said by the cast.Ace6301

Considering Satan in not in the Old Testament, I very much doubt it was him... Satan is a New Testament creation, one that most religious scholars are not even really sure about...

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Maybe that time... but I'm pretty sure more than a few love one's have been sacrificed to God because he asked...

heysharpshooter

Really... nothing... honestly?

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Considering Satan in not in the Old Testament, I very much doubt it was him... Satan is a New Testament creation, one that most religious scholars are not even really sure about...

suitmypants

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"] Nothing really comes to mind.Captain_Swosh69

Really... nothing... honestly?

Raise your hand before answering a question... you get an F--...

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"] Nothing really comes to mind.Captain_Swosh69

Really... nothing... honestly?

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"] Nothing really comes to mind.Captain_Swosh69

Really... nothing... honestly?

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Really... nothing... honestly?

heysharpshooter

Raise your hand before answering a question... you get an F--...

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Really... nothing... honestly?

ColonelWilks

Sounds like it was God's will

Lets take a hypothetical situation. Dont answer with "well God would never ask me that!!" because there are precedents for things like this and you can't tell what God can o can't ask you.

So here is the situation:

You have a TRUE divine revelation. You have God in front of you and you know it is Him. He talks to you and says

"(*your name*) there are times in which people must prove his will and devotion to me. (*your name*), it is your time to show your love to me and prove that you will follow my very lead. Take this knife and slaughter (*the dearest person you have*). It is you (*your name*), that must kill (*the dearest person you have*), if you really love me and claim to be a true believer."

Afterwards you realize that there is a knife in your hand, that it was The Lord God who spoke you and asked you to kill the dearest person in the world. What do you do. Subit your will and life to your god, killing the dearest person there is, or do not kill and reject your god???

curono

I don't think that would be god who asked me that. I'd think it was the other guy.

If I knew it was god, Truly Truly knew, I wouldn't do it. I can't believe in a god who would ask me that.

He could put me through any torture that my body could handle but I wouldn't harm someone I love.

EDIT: and if god asked me this it really wouldn't be god, no matter how sure I was.

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Really... nothing... honestly?

ColonelWilks

Seems to me that in order to clean man of his Sin, God demanded the sacrfice of a human life... that life being the life of Jesus...

And BTW, Greek Orthodox offer animal sacrifce to God all the time... it was the traditonal way of doing things for 1,000's of years... blood sacrifce is key...

I cannot honestly say I would. I'm a firm believer in God, and I do not think this is true as:

• The fifth commandment is "thou shall not kill"
• Jesus said himself "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"][QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"] POP QUIZ!!!! JESUS!!!!!suitmypants

Sounds like it was God's will

[QUOTE="curono"]

Lets take a hypothetical situation. Dont answer with "well God would never ask me that!!" because there are precedents for things like this and you can't tell what God can o can't ask you.

So here is the situation:

You have a TRUE divine revelation. You have God in front of you and you know it is Him. He talks to you and says

"(*your name*) there are times in which people must prove his will and devotion to me. (*your name*), it is your time to show your love to me and prove that you will follow my very lead. Take this knife and slaughter (*the dearest person you have*). It is you (*your name*), that must kill (*the dearest person you have*), if you really love me and claim to be a true believer."

Afterwards you realize that there is a knife in your hand, that it was The Lord God who spoke you and asked you to kill the dearest person in the world. What do you do. Subit your will and life to your god, killing the dearest person there is, or do not kill and reject your god???

theuncharted34

I don't think that would be god who asked me that. I'd think it was the other guy.

If I knew it was god, Truly Truly knew, I wouldn't do it. I can't believe in a god who would ask me that.

He could put me through any torture that my body could handle but I wouldn't harm someone I love.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

Well, if one would believe the story of Abraham and Isaac, one could make a point that God WOULD ask you to that to prove his love to him.

heysharpshooter

Considering Satan in not in the Old Testament, I very much doubt it was him... Satan is a New Testament creation, one that most religious scholars are not even really sure about...

[QUOTE="suitmypants"]

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"] He died because of Man's sin, not because God arbitrarily asked him to. That's a simplification of what He did for us all.ColonelWilks

Sounds like it was God's will

I never trivialized anything... all I said was the entire basis of Christianity is that Jesus was sacrficed to save humanity from its Sin, and I thought it was funny that you couldn't think of that when pondering human sacrifce in Judeo-Christian beliefs... there's nothing trivial about human sacrifce...

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="curono"]

Lets take a hypothetical situation. Dont answer with "well God would never ask me that!!" because there are precedents for things like this and you can't tell what God can o can't ask you.

So here is the situation:

You have a TRUE divine revelation. You have God in front of you and you know it is Him. He talks to you and says

"(*your name*) there are times in which people must prove his will and devotion to me. (*your name*), it is your time to show your love to me and prove that you will follow my very lead. Take this knife and slaughter (*the dearest person you have*). It is you (*your name*), that must kill (*the dearest person you have*), if you really love me and claim to be a true believer."

Afterwards you realize that there is a knife in your hand, that it was The Lord God who spoke you and asked you to kill the dearest person in the world. What do you do. Subit your will and life to your god, killing the dearest person there is, or do not kill and reject your god???

suitmypants

I don't think that would be god who asked me that. I'd think it was the other guy.

If I knew it was god, Truly Truly knew, I wouldn't do it. I can't believe in a god who would ask me that.

He could put me through any torture that my body could handle but I wouldn't harm someone I love.

I cannot honestly say I would. I'm a firm believer in God, and I do not think this is true as:

• The fifth commandment is "thou shall not kill"
• Jesus said himself "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

daqua_99

Jesus: turn the other cheek

Just a test of faith, God's angels would stay my hand before the deed was done. As they did with Abraham.

ColonelWilks

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"][QUOTE="suitmypants"] Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Sounds like it was God's will

heysharpshooter

I never trivialized anything... all I said was the entire basis of Christianity is that Jesus was sacrficed to save humanity from its Sin, and I thought it was funny that you couldn't think of that when pondering human sacrifce in Judeo-Christian beliefs... there's nothing trivial about human sacrifce...

I'd be fairly convinced that it wasn't God.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"] It was, I'm just against the trivialization of Jesus' sacrifice. His crucifixion is beyond comparison to anything God asks of men.ColonelWilks

I never trivialized anything... all I said was the entire basis of Christianity is that Jesus was sacrficed to save humanity from its Sin, and I thought it was funny that you couldn't think of that when pondering human sacrifce in Judeo-Christian beliefs... there's nothing trivial about human sacrifce...

Any arguement to be had ends there... good day, sir!

I cannot honestly say I would. I'm a firm believer in God, and I do not think this is true as:

• The fifth commandment is "thou shall not kill"
• Jesus said himself "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

daqua_99

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

I never trivialized anything... all I said was the entire basis of Christianity is that Jesus was sacrficed to save humanity from its Sin, and I thought it was funny that you couldn't think of that when pondering human sacrifce in Judeo-Christian beliefs... there's nothing trivial about human sacrifce...

heysharpshooter

Any arguement to be had ends there... good day, sir!

If it's anything like the bible, chances are he would change his orders later :lol:. Not that it wouldn't be a massive dick move. :roll:

[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

I never trivialized anything... all I said was the entire basis of Christianity is that Jesus was sacrficed to save humanity from its Sin, and I thought it was funny that you couldn't think of that when pondering human sacrifce in Judeo-Christian beliefs... there's nothing trivial about human sacrifce...

heysharpshooter

Any arguement to be had ends there... good day, sir!

jesus is human with no father , god created him with no father , god is not his father , it was god's will to give marry the virgin a son with no husband , jesus is a prophet , a messenger and a messiah , his full name is jesus son of marry , full stop .

god does not talk to humans directly , god talked to moses and only moses directly , for other prophets , God sent the angel GabrielMAZ85

human beings have been making up stories for tens of thousands of years for the sole purpose to getthrugh life the easy way. one of the easiest ways is to trickother people into doing everything for you. Muhammed was considered aprophet because he noticed that donkeys and camels would leave camp to deficate. this is common sense. no animal(unless captive) will deficate where it eats and sleeps.he then added that god told him that the area was sacred and thats why the animals wouldleave to deficate (as if one area on earth would be more sacred then another).from then on he had servents and scribes all willing to do anything forhim becasue he learned something on his own. Jesus (if real) was just a person who traveledand learnedprimitive medicine and chinese healing tecniques.this put him in a position to be conciderd "godlike" because he learned how to temperarily heal people from minor ailments.