A Song of Ice and Fire

Well here is another thread, but I am curious how many of you guys have read the Book Series a Song of Ice and Fire? To Be honest it is my favorite book series bar none, and it is just simply an amazing book that raises the standards on fantasy, a genre that has been ridden with cliches and rehashed tolkeinesque plots. It simply just breaks that mold.

For those that donot know it is a fantasy series that centers around a war for the throne of the king on the continent of Westeros. But while the noble houses fight amongst each other, a supernatrual group of creatures called the Others stir in the north readying to invade the warring continent. The great thing though is there are no chosen ones or darklords, and not really a main main character, rather a group of Main characters referred to as point of view character. Each chapter is told through the perspective of another character, and it really is a great device for this very complex book series.

And also to note, HBO recently filmed a pilot for a possible tv series...now we just gotta wait for the pilot to get picked up, and the long awaited fifth book which has been to long in the making. Who else has read this great seires imo?

I bought the first book, A Game of Thrones, and read the first few chapters. I found it to be a poorly written novel, and moved on to other books.

Theokhoth re-recommended the book to me however, so I'll have to go back to it at some point and give it another chance. I'm in no rush however, I somehow still doubt the novel's anywhere near as impressive as people have been making it out to be.

I bought the first book, A Game of Thrones, and read the first few chapters. I found it to be a poorly written novel, and moved on to other books.

Theokhoth re-recommended the book to me however, so I'll have to go back to it at some point and give it another chance. I'm in no rush however, I somehow still doubt the novel's anywhere near as impressive as people have been making it out to be.

Nagru

I completely disagree that the novel is poorly written. Martin imo is a master of word play, and his prose reads smoothly. I find that he is very good with dialogue and wit. It does start slow, yes but it does get better..in the end it is a matter of tastes.

Never heard of this series. If I wanted to get into it where should I start? Sounds very interesting.KittenNipples

My bad I should stated the books in the series. The first book of the series is called a "A Game of Thrones." Thats where the series the starts, and then the second book is called "A Clash of King" Followed by "A Storm of Swords"(IMO the best book of the series, and one of the most harrowing and shocking books I have ever read) and then the fourth book a Feast for Crows. One thing to note the series is very very gritty and realistic. The super natural elements are subtle, but the book is not for kids by any means. It is very graphic in its depictions of sex and violence, and some will say cruel to its characters(NO character is safe, none...trust me on that, anyone can die in this series as you will see). But aside from the graphic nature of the material, the characters are fleshed out and really feel alive you feel for them...and others you will despise. The series is more gray then anything else as well, every character is flawed, or even redeemed. One character I and alot of fans hated in the first and second books, but in the thrid actually learned to care and like him more so. Thats how great this series is..

[QUOTE="Nagru"]

I bought the first book, A Game of Thrones, and read the first few chapters. I found it to be a poorly written novel, and moved on to other books.

Theokhoth re-recommended the book to me however, so I'll have to go back to it at some point and give it another chance. I'm in no rush however, I somehow still doubt the novel's anywhere near as impressive as people have been making it out to be.

TheTrueMagusX1

I completely disagree that the novel is poorly written. Martin imo is a master of word play, and his prose reads smoothly. I find that he is very good with dialogue and wit. It does start slow, yes but it does get better..in the end it is a matter of tastes.

I'm more of a Science-Fiction reader, so Fantasy novels already have a harder time appealing to me. Then again I love all of Tolkein's works (Esp. The Silmarillion), Salvatore's Dark Elf trilogy, and Stover's Caine series. As I said I'll give Martin's book another shot, but that's far in the future.

Anyways, If I remember correctly, Martin just threw the reader into the world he created without explaining much and expected the reader to 'get it' and care about what was happening. Does he ever get around to explaining things or is the reader supposed to patch things together along the way? Or am I just remembering another book entirely? (that happens sometimes:P) Also, I remember a section where the Kings children find some 'direwolf' pups, and the whole scene felt so cliche and forced I almost stopped right there.

It is my favorite fantasy series next to The Dark Tower series by Stephen King, and The Book of the new sun series by Gene Wolfe.

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[QUOTE="Nagru"]

I bought the first book, A Game of Thrones, and read the first few chapters. I found it to be a poorly written novel, and moved on to other books.

Theokhoth re-recommended the book to me however, so I'll have to go back to it at some point and give it another chance. I'm in no rush however, I somehow still doubt the novel's anywhere near as impressive as people have been making it out to be.

Nagru

I completely disagree that the novel is poorly written. Martin imo is a master of word play, and his prose reads smoothly. I find that he is very good with dialogue and wit. It does start slow, yes but it does get better..in the end it is a matter of tastes.

I'm more of a Science-Fiction reader, so Fantasy novels already have a harder time appealing to me. Then again I love all of Tolkein's works (Esp. The Silmarillion), Salvatore's Dark Elf trilogy, and Stover's Caine series. As I said I'll give Martin's book another shot, but that's far in the future.

Anyways, If I remember correctly, Martin just threw the reader into the world he created without explaining much and expected the reader to 'get it' and care about what was happening. Does he ever get around to explaining things or is the reader supposed to patch things together along the way? Or am I just remembering another book entirely? (that happens sometimes:P) Also, I remember a section where the Kings children find some 'direwolf' pups, and the whole scene felt so cliche and forced I almost stopped right there.

Thats cool, and yea I love some Sci Fi as well, and between you and I, I am a fan of Harlan Ellison!

But yes Martin does get around to explaining things, and things come together quite well through out the book. Now I do understand your concerns about the Direwolf scene. Yeah it does seem cliche, it really does seem cliche at that moment, with the whole talk about how the children are destined to find them, but trust me, he breaks those cliches quickly...and by the end of the first book, you will quickly forget about that destiny part. It may not seem so at first but the book breaks alot of those cliche and even the ones it seems to establish for it self. I say give the book a chance and atleast read the first book to its entirety.

As for Salvatore Dark Elf books, I will agree that trilogy is awesome. Those books seem like a great action adventure series, like the equivalent of Die Hard in fantasy I suppose.

It is my favorite fantasy series next to The Dark Tower series by Stephen King, and The Book of the new sun series by Gene Wolfe.

Film-Guy

Book of the New Sun? That sounds interesting, if you could elaborate what those are about as I am looking for something new to read after I finish my third read through of a Song of Ice and Fire.

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

[QUOTE="Nagru"]

I bought the first book, A Game of Thrones, and read the first few chapters. I found it to be a poorly written novel, and moved on to other books.

Theokhoth re-recommended the book to me however, so I'll have to go back to it at some point and give it another chance. I'm in no rush however, I somehow still doubt the novel's anywhere near as impressive as people have been making it out to be.

Nagru

I completely disagree that the novel is poorly written. Martin imo is a master of word play, and his prose reads smoothly. I find that he is very good with dialogue and wit. It does start slow, yes but it does get better..in the end it is a matter of tastes.

I'm more of a Science-Fiction reader, so Fantasy novels already have a harder time appealing to me. Then again I love all of Tolkein's works (Esp. The Silmarillion), Salvatore's Dark Elf trilogy, and Stover's Caine series. As I said I'll give Martin's book another shot, but that's far in the future.

Anyways, If I remember correctly, Martin just threw the reader into the world he created without explaining much and expected the reader to 'get it' and care about what was happening. Does he ever get around to explaining things or is the reader supposed to patch things together along the way? Or am I just remembering another book entirely? (that happens sometimes:P) Also, I remember a section where the Kings children find some 'direwolf' pups, and the whole scene felt so cliche and forced I almost stopped right there.

I thought the same thing when I first started on A Game of Thrones.

The prologue involving the Others, followed by that chapter almost had me putting ther book down. However, I decided to stick with it and am glad I did. I can now call it my undisputed favourite book series and have re-read it eight times. It`s real, gritty characters in realistic situations. You never know what is going to happen on the next page (there are numerous, shock inducing plot twists scattered throughout the entire series, these are what makes the books great.) If you are looking for something where the good guys always win and come out on top in even the most dire of situatrions, don`t read this series!

I`d actually say it`s more of a fictional-historical-fictionthan cliched fantasy due to the mostly realistic events and characters.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

It is my favorite fantasy series next to The Dark Tower series by Stephen King, and The Book of the new sun series by Gene Wolfe.

TheTrueMagusX1

Book of the New Sun? That sounds interesting, if you could elaborate what those are about as I am looking for something new to read after I finish my third read through of a Song of Ice and Fire.

I`d also reccomend the 'Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn' series. It seems to be cliche at first glance, but once you start reading through it you'll realize none of it is what you originally expected to be. This is a trilogy that will remind you why you fell in love with fantasy in the first place — with one of the best, most involving climaxes I've ever read.

[QUOTE="Nagru"]

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

I completely disagree that the novel is poorly written. Martin imo is a master of word play, and his prose reads smoothly. I find that he is very good with dialogue and wit. It does start slow, yes but it does get better..in the end it is a matter of tastes.

Bobzfamily

I'm more of a Science-Fiction reader, so Fantasy novels already have a harder time appealing to me. Then again I love all of Tolkein's works (Esp. The Silmarillion), Salvatore's Dark Elf trilogy, and Stover's Caine series. As I said I'll give Martin's book another shot, but that's far in the future.

Anyways, If I remember correctly, Martin just threw the reader into the world he created without explaining much and expected the reader to 'get it' and care about what was happening. Does he ever get around to explaining things or is the reader supposed to patch things together along the way? Or am I just remembering another book entirely? (that happens sometimes:P) Also, I remember a section where the Kings children find some 'direwolf' pups, and the whole scene felt so cliche and forced I almost stopped right there.

I thought the same thing when I first started on A Game of Thrones.

The prologue involving the Others, followed by that chapter almost had me putting ther book down. However, I decided to stick with it and am glad I did. I can now call it my undisputed favourite book series and have re-read it eight times. It`s real, gritty characters in realistic situations. You never know what is going to happen on the next page (there are numerous, shock inducing plot twists scattered throughout the entire series, these are what makes the books great.) If you are looking for something where the good guys always win and come out on top in even the most dire of situatrions, don`t read this series!

I`d actually say it`s more of a fictional-historical-fictionthan cliched fantasy due to the mostly realistic events and characters.

Could not have said it better myself, and as for good guys its hard to say who is truly godo and bad imo, due to the gray nature of the game. One thing though since your familiar with the series what do you think of the casting of the HBO Pilot for a Game of Thrones?

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

It is my favorite fantasy series next to The Dark Tower series by Stephen King, and The Book of the new sun series by Gene Wolfe.

TheTrueMagusX1

Book of the New Sun? That sounds interesting, if you could elaborate what those are about as I am looking for something new to read after I finish my third read through of a Song of Ice and Fire.

It is a very dark fantasy series that has a few spin off series. It mixes themes from charles dickens, and Franz Kafka too. It is hard to describe, but here is a little plot description I found:

"It chronicles the journey and ascent to power of Severian a disgraced journeyman torturer who rises to the position of Autarch, the one ruler of the free world. Severian, who claims that he has Perfect memory, tells the story in first person; the books are presented by Wolfe as a translation of Severian's writings into contemporary English. The series takes place in the distant future, where the Sun has dimmed considerably and the Earth (referred to in the series as "Urth") is slowly cooling."

That really doesnt give the series much justice though, it is a very complex series. Another one you might like is The Amber chronicles by Roger Zelanzy.

[QUOTE="KittenNipples"]Never heard of this series. If I wanted to get into it where should I start? Sounds very interesting.TheTrueMagusX1

My bad I should stated the books in the series. The first book of the series is called a "A Game of Thrones." Thats where the series the starts, and then the second book is called "A Clash of King" Followed by "A Storm of Swords"(IMO the best book of the series, and one of the most harrowing and shocking books I have ever read) and then the fourth book a Feast for Crows. One thing to note the series is very very gritty and realistic. The super natural elements are subtle, but the book is not for kids by any means. It is very graphic in its depictions of sex and violence, and some will say cruel to its characters(NO character is safe, none...trust me on that, anyone can die in this series as you will see). But aside from the graphic nature of the material, the characters are fleshed out and really feel alive you feel for them...and others you will despise. The series is more gray then anything else as well, every character is flawed, or even redeemed. One character I and alot of fans hated in the first and second books, but in the thrid actually learned to care and like him more so. Thats how great this series is..

I thought the same thing when I first started on A Game of Thrones.

The prologue involving the Others, followed by that chapter almost had me putting ther book down. However, I decided to stick with it and am glad I did. I can now call it my undisputed favourite book series and have re-read it eight times. It`s real, gritty characters in realistic situations. You never know what is going to happen on the next page (there are numerous, shock inducing plot twists scattered throughout the entire series, these are what makes the books great.) If you are looking for something where the good guys always win and come out on top in even the most dire of situatrions, don`t read this series!

I`d actually say it`s more of a fictional-historical-fictionthan cliched fantasy due to the mostly realistic events and characters.

Bobzfamily

Hmm...perhaps I'll bump this book a couple rungs up on my 'to read' list :)

If you were seeing the same flaws as me, but thought it turned out great in the end, what better evidence could I get that it's truly worth the read. BTW, to return the favour, if you haven't read the Caine series I really do recommend it. It's a synthesis of sci-fi and fantasy, and it's truly exceptional.

Tough to say as most of the actors with the exception of Bean are relatively unknown. I will say that I'm overjoyed that Mr. Martin is helping to advise and even write the series, he doesn't seem like a guy who wants people taking his work and screwing around with it just to appeaswe the brain dead masses. I'm only really familiar with Sean Bean and Mark Addy. They both look great as Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon appearance-wise, we'll see if they can be as good representations of the characters in terms of manner. The only actor I don't really love the look of is Alfie Allen as Theon. Allen looks a bit too gawky for me, I always imagined Theon as more of a pretty boy.

[QUOTE="Bobzfamily"]

I thought the same thing when I first started on A Game of Thrones.

The prologue involving the Others, followed by that chapter almost had me putting ther book down. However, I decided to stick with it and am glad I did. I can now call it my undisputed favourite book series and have re-read it eight times. It`s real, gritty characters in realistic situations. You never know what is going to happen on the next page (there are numerous, shock inducing plot twists scattered throughout the entire series, these are what makes the books great.) If you are looking for something where the good guys always win and come out on top in even the most dire of situatrions, don`t read this series!

I`d actually say it`s more of a fictional-historical-fictionthan cliched fantasy due to the mostly realistic events and characters.

Nagru

Hmm...perhaps I'll bump this book a couple rungs up on my 'to read' list :)

If you were seeing the same flaws as me, but thought it turned out great in the end, what better evidence could I get that it's truly worth the read. BTW, to return the favour, if you haven't read the Caine series I really do recommend it. It's a synthesis of sci-fi and fantasy, and it's truly exceptional.

Caine, sounds very interesting....I have to say, the link tot he wiki article has me very intrigued....

[QUOTE="Nagru"]

[QUOTE="Bobzfamily"]

I thought the same thing when I first started on A Game of Thrones.

The prologue involving the Others, followed by that chapter almost had me putting ther book down. However, I decided to stick with it and am glad I did. I can now call it my undisputed favourite book series and have re-read it eight times. It`s real, gritty characters in realistic situations. You never know what is going to happen on the next page (there are numerous, shock inducing plot twists scattered throughout the entire series, these are what makes the books great.) If you are looking for something where the good guys always win and come out on top in even the most dire of situatrions, don`t read this series!

I`d actually say it`s more of a fictional-historical-fictionthan cliched fantasy due to the mostly realistic events and characters.

TheTrueMagusX1

Hmm...perhaps I'll bump this book a couple rungs up on my 'to read' list :)

If you were seeing the same flaws as me, but thought it turned out great in the end, what better evidence could I get that it's truly worth the read. BTW, to return the favour, if you haven't read the Caine series I really do recommend it. It's a synthesis of sci-fi and fantasy, and it's truly exceptional.

Caine, sounds very interesting....I have to say, the link tot he wiki article has me very intrigued....

Touche. Doesn't look like anything I've ever seen before.

Tough to say as most of the actors with the exception of Bean are relatively unknown. I will say that I'm overjoyed that Mr. Martin is helping to advise and even write the series, he doesn't seem like a guy who wants people taking his work and screwing around with it just to appeaswe the brain dead masses. I'm only really familiar with Sean Bean and Mark Addy. They both look great as Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon appearance-wise, we'll see if they can be as good representations of the characters in terms of manner. The only actor I don't really love the look of is Alfie Allen as Theon. Allen looks a bit too gawky for me, I always imagined Theon as more of a pretty boy.

Bobzfamily

Yeah alot of them are unknowns, I am surprised though you are not familiar with Lena Headey though as that I find in recent years she has gathered a sort of following and I think she is a perfect choice for Cersei. Basically she played Sarah Conner in the Terminator: Sarah Connoer Chronicles series, but she is better known as the Queen Gorgo in 300....I think though they got casting right personally. Allen, I will say yeah, I always imagined him as a pretty boy as well but lets see how he delivers the character though.

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[QUOTE="Nagru"]

Hmm...perhaps I'll bump this book a couple rungs up on my 'to read' list :)

If you were seeing the same flaws as me, but thought it turned out great in the end, what better evidence could I get that it's truly worth the read. BTW, to return the favour, if you haven't read the Caine series I really do recommend it. It's a synthesis of sci-fi and fantasy, and it's truly exceptional.

Bobzfamily

Caine, sounds very interesting....I have to say, the link tot he wiki article has me very intrigued....

Touche. Doesn't look like anything I've ever seen before.

Looks like its off to Barnes and Noble tommorrow to pick up this book!

It's fantastic. I'm putting off reading the fourth book because I want him to release Book 5 soon. :evil:

I can't wait for the HBO series.

I'm working my way through Storm of Swords right now, and I have to say it is the best written fantasy series I've ever read. It, frankly, blows Tolkien out of the water in terms of character development and storytelling. Tolkien set the stage, an Martin bulldozed over it.

I almost cried after the Frey wedding feast. :'(

EDIT: Also, WHY NED WHYYYY? I liked him so much :(.

I'm working my way through Storm of Swords right now, and I have to say it is the best written fantasy series I've ever read. It, frankly, blows Tolkien out of the water in terms of character development and storytelling. Tolkien set the stage, an Martin bulldozed over it. I almost cried after the Frey wedding feast. :'(majoras_wrath

Martin said he wrote that part last because it depressed him so much. :(

The ending of Storm of Swords will blow you away, I can promise you that.

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]I'm working my way through Storm of Swords right now, and I have to say it is the best written fantasy series I've ever read. It, frankly, blows Tolkien out of the water in terms of character development and storytelling. Tolkien set the stage, an Martin bulldozed over it. I almost cried after the Frey wedding feast. :'(Theokhoth

Martin said he wrote that part last because it depressed him so much. :(

The ending of Storm of Swords will blow you away, I can promise you that.

Yeah the ending was quite shcoking to say the least. Yes the red wedding, is very shocking and harrowing. It is one of the most shocking things I have ever red, and I think its power is due to how sudden it happens and how quick it ends. I still read it today and it is just as powerful as I read it.

Yep Martin said that it hurt him the most to write that scene.

I've been looking into it, but I've heard mixed things about the books. What's particulary noteworthy about the series?

I've been looking into it, but I've heard mixed things about the books. What's particulary noteworthy about the series?

werthog14

I would the most note worthy thing for this series is that its gutsy. Its very very gutsy, for the shere face that unlike alot of fantasy or heck even literature in general, no main character is safe....trust me, anyone can die, this is established in the first book, and you will be biting nails for your favorite character. The Character development is fantastic with some very very complex characters. I think the reason why some people donot like it(To be honest, the book series is near the top on internetbook data base and criticially acclaimed, so I would say the reception is more positive then negative) is that the books can tend to be very gritty, dark and even at times cruel to its characters, but thats what makes it so great, is that its very realistic.

I've been looking into it, but I've heard mixed things about the books. What's particulary noteworthy about the series?

werthog14

Its highest praise is with its realistic characters. And as has been said, none of the main characters are safe. . .one minute you'll be reading the book thinking about how the series will end, thinking, yeah, this guy's gonna win eventually, or this guy's gonna get his ass handed to him in the next ten pages, and then bam, the story changes in a heartbeat. It's impossible to predict what will happen in this story.

Good series, though Martin needs to be a little more concise at times. I really enjoyed the first book - best in the series. He also needs to get in gear and finish the next book. I suspect there will be another after that.

Good series, though Martin needs to be a little more concise at times. I really enjoyed the first book - best in the series. He also needs to get in gear and finish the next book. I suspect there will be another after that.

sonicare

There are seven books planned. I hope it doesn't take him 5-7 years to write them all. O_o

I think they are great. For the poster who said he read a couple of chapters and then stopped, they do start off fairly slowly and it took me a couple of goes to get into it before I was hooked but a general rule that someone said somewhere is that if you get to the end of "Bran 2" (the second of Bran's POV chapters) where the first "oh snap" moment that kind of sets the tone for the series happens then that is where it really picks up. I'm kinda wish I had done what Theokhoth said and saved the fourth for when the fifth finally comes out as the two books run parallel to each other. Last thing I heard was that Martin was having a load of trouble with the timeline - trying to get each event to sync logically with every other event.AnObscureName

Last I heard he had over 1,100 pages finished.

[QUOTE="AnObscureName"]I think they are great. For the poster who said he read a couple of chapters and then stopped, they do start off fairly slowly and it took me a couple of goes to get into it before I was hooked but a general rule that someone said somewhere is that if you get to the end of "Bran 2" (the second of Bran's POV chapters) where the first "oh snap" moment that kind of sets the tone for the series happens then that is where it really picks up. I'm kinda wish I had done what Theokhoth said and saved the fourth for when the fifth finally comes out as the two books run parallel to each other. Last thing I heard was that Martin was having a load of trouble with the timeline - trying to get each event to sync logically with every other event.Theokhoth

Last I heard he had over 1,100 pages finished.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="AnObscureName"]I think they are great. For the poster who said he read a couple of chapters and then stopped, they do start off fairly slowly and it took me a couple of goes to get into it before I was hooked but a general rule that someone said somewhere is that if you get to the end of "Bran 2" (the second of Bran's POV chapters) where the first "oh snap" moment that kind of sets the tone for the series happens then that is where it really picks up. I'm kinda wish I had done what Theokhoth said and saved the fourth for when the fifth finally comes out as the two books run parallel to each other. Last thing I heard was that Martin was having a load of trouble with the timeline - trying to get each event to sync logically with every other event.grape_of_wrath

Last I heard he had over 1,100 pages finished.

He's been working on it for nearly six years, and Feast took four years. It's really pissing people off; a lot of his fans are afraid he'll pull a Robert Jordan.

Yep :p

The Red Weddingis the most shocking thing I've ever read in a piece of fantasy literature (or any literature) due to the attachtements I'd had to several characters involved, and that he pretty much ended the most interesting storyline right there. The first time I read it I actually put the book down for a bit just to take in what had happened. I did that similarily with the death of a POV character in Book 1 (you know who I'm talking about) and the 'deaths' of two boys at the end of Kings.

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Last I heard he had over 1,100 pages finished.

Theokhoth

He's been working on it for nearly six years, and Feast took four years. It's really pissing people off; a lot of his fans are afraid he'll pull a Robert Jordan.

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[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] last i heard the book was due 2008 and 2007 before . :|grape_of_wrath

He's been working on it for nearly six years, and Feast took four years. It's really pissing people off; a lot of his fans are afraid he'll pull a Robert Jordan.

No, die before his immensely popular series is finished. :evil:

Last I heard he had over 1,100 pages finished.

Theokhoth

No, die before his immensely popular series is finished. :evil:

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Last I heard he had over 1,100 pages finished.

Theokhoth

He's been working on it for nearly six years, and Feast took four years. It's really pissing people off; a lot of his fans are afraid he'll pull a Robert Jordan.

Nope he has been working Dance of Dragons for far longer then Six years. Because the first version of the fourth book after storm of Swords, Martin wanted to do a time skip, he wanted the fourth book originally to take place five years after book 3. That did not work out, just because of the sheer fact that there are too many characters and he was using flash backs way too much. So he had to scrap that version and start all the way from scratch. Thats where we got a Feast for Crows which was originally intended to have all the POVS, but book grew too big for that too handle. This was mostly due to the massive fallout due to the huge amount of major events in the Third book(The red wedding was not the only major event), so he had to split the fourth book into two parts. He just divided book four covierng the south and book five coveringthe north.

Yes its taking a long time, but Martin is a very very meticilous writer, his writing shows this purely to the amount of detalil he puts into it. I hope the fifth book comes out this year. And yes at one point Martin wanted Book 5 out not in 2007, but in 2006 a year after Feast For Crows.

I read the first three, but that was a while ago, I don't think I finished the 3rd one though. I do plan on re-reading all of them. and continuing the series. I did love them though.

I am currently reading A Game of Thrones. It is very interesting. One of the most interesting books ever. Then I have the next one which I think is called A Storm of Swords? I got them both on my iPhone Kindle appAgent-Zero

The next one is A Clash of Kings.

Just finished Storm of Swords...and my mouth is still hanging open. I love you Tyrion :Dmajoras_wrath

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Just finished Storm of Swords...and my mouth is still hanging open. I love you Tyrion :DLockedge

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Just finished Storm of Swords...and my mouth is still hanging open. I love you Tyrion :DLockedge

I think Martin posted a sample chapter of Tyrion's viewpoint from Dance. That or it's on the Westeros forums.

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Just finished Storm of Swords...and my mouth is still hanging open. I love you Tyrion :DTheokhoth

I think Martin posted a sample chapter of Tyrion's viewpoint from Dance. That or it's on the Westeros forums.

Yup. He did the same for Jon Snow, Danaerys, and `Reek`.