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#1 p1fx
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UK- the government has unveiled plans to force every citizen to be used as a organ donor unless they sign a specific register to opt out, i belive this to be a step to far and resent the government telling me what to do with my own body. i am not against being a organ donor but i am against being forced to be one by people in ivory towers, what is next if they get away with this? what else will they do, this is the beggining of the end for civil right here. i can only say i will be signing the register to opt out just as a protest and hope that many others will do so aswell, hopefully it may force their hand to reconsider this lunacy. didnt we go to war in iraq because of a dictator? yet we have one at home, on our own doorstep. what do you think about this situation? refuse, resist, rise up, revolt.
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#2 rohver
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show me proof
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#3 runningshamrock
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link?

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#4 uncledeath2005
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I saw that on the news....I don't have a problem with it...
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#6 Bourbons3
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You don't need them after you're dead...why not put them to good use?
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UK- the government has unveiled plans to force every citizen to be used as a organ donor unless they sign a specific register to opt out, i belive this to be a step to far and resent the government telling me what to do with my own body. i am not against being a organ donor but i am against being forced to be one by people in ivory towers, what is next if they get away with this? what else will they do, this is the beggining of the end for civil right here. i can only say i will be signing the register to opt out just as a protest and hope that many others will do so aswell, hopefully it may force their hand to reconsider this lunacy. didnt we go to war in iraq because of a dictator? yet we have one at home, on our own doorstep. what do you think about this situation? refuse, resist, rise up, revolt.p1fx

If you are dead what the hell do you care what goes on with your body?

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#8 HellsAngel2c
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at least their giving you a CHOICE to opt out unlike with the smoking ban.

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#9 playstation2004
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Pics? Link?
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#10 thephoenix365
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at least their giving you a CHOICE to opt out unlike with the smoking ban.

HellsAngel2c

So you should, as a smoker, be able to "opt out" of following the smoking ban? That makes no sense.

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#11 southy787
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Pics? Link?playstation2004
Pics of what? Organs? :|
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#12 thephoenix365
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[QUOTE="playstation2004"]Pics? Link?southy787
Pics of what? Organs? :|

Link to the atricle that says that what you are saying is true.

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#13 HellsAngel2c
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[QUOTE="HellsAngel2c"]

at least their giving you a CHOICE to opt out unlike with the smoking ban.

thephoenix365

So you should, as a smoker, be able to "opt out" of following the smoking ban? That makes no sense.

nah, i meant but forgot to say that companies and landlords cant choose whether their buildings should be smoking or non smoking. So Bingo Halls and Pubs especially will be drastically affected by the ban. I know in my area already the big Gala Bingo place has closed. I just think it should have been recommended to be a non smoking place, but not compulsory. I mean, dont you feel sorry for the old ladies who went to Bingo to see their only friends once a week and they enjoyed a chat over a **** and now they are stuck at home with nothing to do?

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#14 thephoenix365
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perhaps, but living with the ban in scotland for the last year and a half, i have seen no drop in pub/gaming trade in the Greater Glasgow area.

I'm sure there rural areas where it may have more of an impact, but it's not like it is banning smokers from going to the pub/bingo/restraunt. All it means is there has to be an outside place, where smokers go to smoke. All it means is you have to move 10ft out the door and under the canopy to smoke instead.

I agree that restriction of liberty is always an issue that has to be given the utmost priority, in all cases, but sometimes a balance between individualism and a more utiliatarian/society based view is needed.

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My organs aren't that good :(
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#16 cjek
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An argument often fabricated by people against post-death organ donations is that if your heart stops and you are registered as an organ donor, then medical staff will be less willing to restart your heart because of the benefit to others you will provide by dying. I honestly don't believe that when someone is dying, medical staff have organ donations on their mind, and I don't even think they will be immediately aware that you are a registered donor. Being an organ donor does not give you any disadvantages.. simple as.

I still think people should have a choice, and this idea does still give people a choice.. it's just turning the current method upside down by letting you opt-out rather than opt-in.

And here's a link to the news story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6902519.stm

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#17 Jowell91
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its not that bad a thing to do, there are many benefits to a thing like this, dont u think,
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#18 rudyroundhead
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I don't see anything wrong with it since you have the option to opt out. My question would be about kids...do they have the right to opt out for themselves or can the parent make the decision for them. Would parents be able to say No for there children.
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#19 -GingerBasher-
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I think thats a step too close
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#20 vitriolboy
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This happens in many European countries with no problems. I am a registered organ donor and as far as I'm concerned when I die they can take whatever will help someone else to have a better life and burn the rest
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#21 tidywhite
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well what happens to people who forget to opt out, but tearing the body apart post mordem is against their religion or are supposed to be burried intact like the jews

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#22 vitriolboy
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well what happens to people who forget to opt out, but tearing the body apart post mordem is against their religion or are supposed to be burried intact like the jews

tidywhite

If it was something as important as stopping you from going to 'heaven' I doubt you would forget to opt out

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#23 SAURON221
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I would also hate that.