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#1 vishawn
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwYDbBGE8bQ

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#2 194197844077667059316682358889
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Without more info than that, there is exactly zero chance I will click on that link
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#3 Dman0017
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whoo! bear arms!
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#4 vishawn
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A video on our rights to bear arms, and how we need to defend it.

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#5 194197844077667059316682358889
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Sorry but Madonna has ruined the right to bare arms
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#6 ariz3260
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Was expecting Rick Astley, am disappointed

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#7 AlphaRail
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Sorry but Madonna has ruined the right to bare arms xaos
Man you are so dumb man, damn man, it's the right to bear arms, you know, bear claws and such, you are so anti american.
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#8 dercoo
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Was not expecting that video.

As an assault weapon owning Kentuckian I approve this message.;)

Another video everyone should watch. (more bang)

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#9 Foolz3h
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"Where was the government on 9-11?"

Now, I'm not sure of the logistics of this but people take pot shots at a jumbo jet with a revolver probably wouldnt' do too much damage right?

I'm from Australia so I'm no weapons expert, though. :P

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Is the point of the video to make Michael Savage look like a fanatical manic? Because that's all I got out of it.
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#11 HoolaHoopMan
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Is the point of the video to make Michael Savage look like a fanatical manic? Because that's all I got out of it.supercubedude64
Yeah, about 30 seconds in a comparison with Hitler and the Nazis. Enough to close the tab for me.
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#12 Nerkcon
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Is the point of the video to make Michael Savage look like a fanatical manic? Because that's all I got out of it.supercubedude64
The video was trying to say that as long as you have arms the people can rise up against the government of the government every tried to do anything terrible with its people I.E. Nazi Germany.
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[QUOTE="supercubedude64"]Is the point of the video to make Michael Savage look like a fanatical manic? Because that's all I got out of it.Nerkcon
The video was trying to say that as long as you have arms the people can rise up against the government of the government every tried to do anything terrible with its people I.E. Nazi Germany.

An uprising then would have been a longshot with 20th century military tech, the way militaries are equipped now an uprising against the best in the world would be absolutely futile, not to mention just how far our government is from being anything even resembling Nazi Germany and how radical change would have to be for it to get to that point. Also, most Germans supported Hitler they were the exact opposite of oppressed, that is unless they happened to be Jewish or some other minority, and if they were a minority and they did take a potshot at some German officers they would've brought retribution upon themselves and anyone associated with them. That's absolutely the worst analogy I have ever heard.

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I'm all for gun rights as long as there are strict gun laws. We shouldn't be able to sell guns to just anyone. It should be really difficult to purchase guns and assault weapons should not be tolerated.

I also hate how people think it is a 100% fact that we have rights to guns when the way it's worded in the Constitution leaves it open for debate.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

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#15 coolbeans90
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I support the right to bear arms. But that video does little to help the argument. Epic music plus comparing those who support gun control to Hitler doesn't exactly bode well for a logical argument. I agree a nation's populous must be ever vigilant. That is all I have to say about my reaction to the video.

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[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="supercubedude64"]Is the point of the video to make Michael Savage look like a fanatical manic? Because that's all I got out of it.theone86

The video was trying to say that as long as you have arms the people can rise up against the government of the government every tried to do anything terrible with its people I.E. Nazi Germany.

An uprising then would have been a longshot with 20th century military tech, the way militaries are equipped now an uprising against the best in the world would be absolutely futile, not to mention just how far our government is from being anything even resembling Nazi Germany and how radical change would have to be for it to get to that point. Also, most Germans supported Hitler they were the exact opposite of oppressed, that is unless they happened to be Jewish or some other minority, and if they were a minority and they did take a potshot at some German officers they would've brought retribution upon themselves and anyone associated with them. That's absolutely the worst analogy I have ever heard.

Actually it's not unlikely, I've watch videos quoting some of Obama's advisers... "we will use the power of intimidation and if that doesn't work we'll use the imtindation of power" - forgot who and can't find anything other than Fox News (which you will cry 'da biased' and then turn to Time and CNN who are equally so) "The two people I turned to most are Mao and Mother Teresa" http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2009/10/anita-dunn-mao-and-mother-teresa.html "The two
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#17 CRS98
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I'm still surprised Michael Savage has survived all those brain aneurysms.
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#18 SolidSnake35
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How can you brag about how great a country is when you need guns to feel safe in it? America is only a baby anyway. It barely has any history so I'll be impressed when it survives because of its guns after a few more hundred years.
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#19 The_Bio_Shu
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I'm all for owning firearms... but this guy sounds like a D-B.
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#20 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I agree with the video. The government has enough power, they really don't need anymore.

If you don't like guns, don't own one. I like guns. I think they're a great way to protect yourself. I feel bad for the person who tries to take them away from me.

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#21 HoolaHoopMan
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I agree with the video. The government has enough power, they really don't need anymore.

If you don't like guns, don't own one. I like guns. I think they're a great way to protect yourself. I feel bad for the person who tries to take them away from me.

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When will people learn that NOBODY will take away your guns. It's in the Bill or Rights, you will always have the right to own some sort of firearm.
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#22 Diablo-B
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Lol that could be the intro to the next fallout game
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#23 MrGeezer
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I support the right to bear arms. But that video does little to help the argument. Epic music plus comparing those who support gun control to Hitler doesn't exactly bode well for a logical argument. I agree a nation's populous must be ever vigilant. That is all I have to say about my reaction to the video.

coolbeans90

I agree with the "ever vigilant" part. The problem is, it seems like way too many people are apathetic as it is concerning even the non face-shooting aspects of being vigilant. When most of the people I know either don't vote, or vote solely along party lines because they're too lazy to care about candidate's stance on important issues or previous history, then guns ain't exactly the answer. Giving people guns to fight off the King of America isn't gonna do **** if the public is already uneducated and apathetic and lazy enough to really not give a **** about anything.

Constant vigilance is good. But guns sort of come AFTER constant vigilance. You go shooting off your guns every time you're sick of the government, then you're just another wacko extremist group.

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#24 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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When will people learn that NOBODY will take away your guns. It's in the Bill or Rights, you will always have the right to own some sort of firearm. HoolaHoopMan

Maybe they won't ever take away our guns, but they'll pass various types of legislation to limit the types we can own, limit the amount of ammunition we can own, tell us where they have to be stored, etc. Unless they're fought.

Let me guess, you're one of those types that thinks the government will always protect us. Well, you can keep on believing that. I'll trust my .40.

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#25 MrGeezer
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I agree with the video. The government has enough power, they really don't need anymore.

If you don't like guns, don't own one. I like guns. I think they're a great way to protect yourself. I feel bad for the person who tries to take them away from me.

airshocker

Pick your battles, dude. If you go shooting at dudes because they come to confiscate your firearms, you aren't exactly doing much to dispel the sterotype that gun activists are trigger happy lunatics who'll try to kill everyone.

Fight smarter, not harder.

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#26 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I support the right to bear arms. But that video does little to help the argument. Epic music plus comparing those who support gun control to Hitler doesn't exactly bode well for a logical argument. I agree a nation's populous must be ever vigilant. That is all I have to say about my reaction to the video.

MrGeezer

I agree with the "ever vigilant" part. The problem is, it seems like way too many people are apathetic as it is concerning even the non face-shooting aspects of being vigilant. When most of the people I know either don't vote, or vote solely along party lines because they're too lazy to care about candidate's stance on important issues or previous history, then guns ain't exactly the answer. Giving people guns to fight off the King of America isn't gonna do **** if the public is already uneducated and apathetic and lazy enough to really not give a **** about anything.

Constant vigilance is good. But guns sort of come AFTER constant vigilance. You go shooting off your guns every time you're sick of the government, then you're just another wacko extremist group.

Very much agreed.

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Let me guess, you're one of those types that thinks the government will always protect us. Well, you can keep on believing that. I'll trust my .40.

airshocker

I can't speak for the other guy. But personally, I think nothing of the sort. What I DO think is that there are better ways to handle most situations than by threatening to shoot a dude. In many cases, all that's likely to do is to guarantee that you get shot AND end up being portrayed as a trigger-happy mentally unstable nut on television. And when you die in a bloody shootout because police tried to confiscate your assault rifle, do you think that kind of publicity helps your cause? No.

I'm all for guns, but the answer isn't always to shoot everything. That's sort of the last ****ing resort. Both because killing people is sort of undesirable, AND because resorting to that sort of action tends to make supporters of your cause look like insane and dangerous lunatics.

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]When will people learn that NOBODY will take away your guns. It's in the Bill or Rights, you will always have the right to own some sort of firearm. airshocker

Maybe they won't ever take away our guns, but they'll pass various types of legislation to limit the types we can own, limit the amount of ammunition we can own, tell us where they have to be stored, etc. Unless they're fought.

Let me guess, you're one of those types that thinks the government will always protect us. Well, you can keep on believing that. I'll trust my .40.

Let me tell you this first, I own guns, several in fact because I hunt. I own rifles and pistols, so I'm not against people owning guns. What I'm against is this kind of mentality that the 2nd amendment allows anyone to own any kind of gun. The second amendment says "Arms" not guns, not assault rifles, and not grenade launchers. It's obviously up to interpretation, and limits should and have been set in order to keep dangerous killing machines out of people's hands. Gun control is needed.
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#29 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Pick your battles, dude. If you go shooting at dudes because they come to confiscate your firearms, you aren't exactly doing much to dispel the sterotype that gun activists are trigger happy lunatics who'll try to kill everyone.

Fight smarter, not harder.

MrGeezer

I don't know, man. On one hand, I can see where getting myself killed wouldn't be a good idea, but on the other, I really don't trust the government to protect my family like I can.

I would probably just hide them and bide my time.

But I guarantee it if we ever lose the right to bear arms, the current administration won't be in power for much longer. Nor will the supreme court.

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#30 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Let me tell you this first, I own guns, several in fact because I hunt. I own rifles and pistols, so I'm not against people owning guns. What I'm against is this kind of mentality that the 2nd amendment allows anyone to own any kind of gun. The second amendment says "Arms" not guns, not assault rifles, and not grenade launchers. It's obviously up to interpretation, and limits should and have been set in order to keep dangerous killing machines out of people's hands. Gun control is needed.HoolaHoopMan

You're bringing up things I didn't even mention.

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#31 HoolaHoopMan
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Pick your battles, dude. If you go shooting at dudes because they come to confiscate your firearms, you aren't exactly doing much to dispel the sterotype that gun activists are trigger happy lunatics who'll try to kill everyone.

Fight smarter, not harder.

airshocker

I don't know, man. On one hand, I can see where getting myself killed wouldn't be a good idea, but on the other, I really don't trust the government to protect my family like I can.

I would probably just hide them and bide my time.

But I guarantee it if we ever lose the right to bear arms, the current administration won't be in power for much longer. Nor will the supreme court.

No one is going to come to your house and take you guns away, EVER. It's in the Bill of rights. As long as you obtain them legally there shouldn't be a problem. You seem paranoid.
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#32 HoolaHoopMan
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]Let me tell you this first, I own guns, several in fact because I hunt. I own rifles and pistols, so I'm not against people owning guns. What I'm against is this kind of mentality that the 2nd amendment allows anyone to own any kind of gun. The second amendment says "Arms" not guns, not assault rifles, and not grenade launchers. It's obviously up to interpretation, and limits should and have been set in order to keep dangerous killing machines out of people's hands. Gun control is needed.airshocker

You're bringing up things I didn't even mention.

Oh sorry, I was just kind of elaborating on my stance, went off a bit.
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anyone who tries to take away my right to bear arms is going to get shot.
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I can't speak for the other guy. But personally, I think nothing of the sort. What I DO think is that there are better ways to handle most situations than by threatening to shoot a dude. In many cases, all that's likely to do is to guarantee that you get shot AND end up being portrayed as a trigger-happy mentally unstable nut on television. And when you die in a bloody shootout because police tried to confiscate your assault rifle, do you think that kind of publicity helps your cause? No.

I'm all for guns, but the answer isn't always to shoot everything. That's sort of the last ****ing resort. Both because killing people is sort of undesirable, AND because resorting to that sort of action tends to make supporters of your cause look like insane and dangerous lunatics.

MrGeezer

I'm not saying shoot everyone because they disagree with you. But where does one draw the line in regards to the Supreme Court, and other legislators trying to limit our rights? This goes SO far beyond just the second amendment, but I won't derail the topic.

I agree with most forms of gun control. I don't believe assault rifles should be sold to the public. I agree that felons shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. That doesn't change the fact that they do. That doesn't change the fact that ANYONE can buy an AR-15 full-auto mod kit for about 50 bucks.

My intentions for owning weapons are entirely honorable. I do not trust the US government to protect my family. No matter WHAT political party controls the administration. That is why the people need to be left alone in as many matters as possible.

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No one is going to come to your house and take you guns away, EVER. It's in the Bill of rights. As long as you obtain them legally there shouldn't be a problem. You seem paranoid. HoolaHoopMan

I'm not trying to be dramatic, but there have been times in history where a population was disarmed. And very bad things happened to those countries. That video names a few.

When the government no longer fears the people is when everything is lost.

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speaking from the perspective as the best American ever.. I don't need to see this video.
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#37 _R34LiTY_
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Well, the 2nd Amendmant is to help protect us from government, so I greatly agree with it

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#38 Ace6301
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If your country is the greatest country on earth then you shouldn't have to be afraid of your government enough to think that one day you may need your guns to protect your self from them. I'm all good with the right to have a gun but not something outrageous. There should also be more limitations on who has a gun.
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#39 SolidSnake35
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If your country is the greatest country on earth then you shouldn't have to be afraid of your government enough to think that one day you may need your guns to protect your self from them.Ace6301
True... but remember, they're so armed that the president himself probably carries a shotgun in his back pocket. I'd fear that.
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Like the message... hate the delivery. The guy sounds like he should be hiding out in the wilderness somewhere, sharing rations with the Unabomber. :?

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]If your country is the greatest country on earth then you shouldn't have to be afraid of your government enough to think that one day you may need your guns to protect your self from them.SolidSnake35
True... but remember, they're so armed that the president himself probably carries a shotgun in his back pocket. I'd fear that.

He must have a big back pocket...
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#42 _zeldredz_
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that guy sounds like a maniac. i really hope he doesn't have any guns.

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#43 enterawesome
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He is right, but this is also the same guy that said every liberal has a mental disorder and is on heavy doses of medicine or drugs.
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"] The video was trying to say that as long as you have arms the people can rise up against the government of the government every tried to do anything terrible with its people I.E. Nazi Germany.Nerkcon

An uprising then would have been a longshot with 20th century military tech, the way militaries are equipped now an uprising against the best in the world would be absolutely futile, not to mention just how far our government is from being anything even resembling Nazi Germany and how radical change would have to be for it to get to that point. Also, most Germans supported Hitler they were the exact opposite of oppressed, that is unless they happened to be Jewish or some other minority, and if they were a minority and they did take a potshot at some German officers they would've brought retribution upon themselves and anyone associated with them. That's absolutely the worst analogy I have ever heard.

Actually it's not unlikely, I've watch videos quoting some of Obama's advisers... "we will use the power of intimidation and if that doesn't work we'll use the imtindation of power" - forgot who and can't find anything other than Fox News (which you will cry 'da biased' and then turn to Time and CNN who are equally so) "The two people I turned to most are Mao and Mother Teresa" http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2009/10/anita-dunn-mao-and-mother-teresa.html "The two

That quote was proven to be a lie a long time ago. link

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Without more info than that, there is exactly zero chance I will click on that linkxaos

its a Michael Savage rant (this is the guy that yelled "Kill Mecca! Kill Mecca! Kill the Islams!" after the 9/11 attacks) and no one that does not want to get upset should click the link

theres a really cool revolver in the pic, though...the grip is red white and blue

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#46 mrbojangles25
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some choice quotes

"I dont like these people that go into walmart and buy these big screen TVs. Theyre buying using pieces of equipment" Sorry, man, but TVs are for recreation, just like firearms 95% of the time (in civilian hands). If TVs = worthless, then guns = worthless too

"Im not a martial artist...but I study all forms of martial arts."

"If youre a woman, and youre going to the mall, look around before getting out of your car. Look around to make sure there is no one lurking about to take your keys"

"Lets put aside terrorism...lets talk about our homegrown 'animals'. You must be prepared. You must get a weapon"

Michael Savage has always interested me, simply because he is such a scared, frightened person. I dont know what has happened in his life to make him fear society and the world so much to always spout about how everyone else should be as afraid as he is.

Savage is the epitome of a fear mongerer.

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#47 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="xaos"]Without more info than that, there is exactly zero chance I will click on that linkmrbojangles25

its a Michael Savage rant (this is the guy that yelled "Kill Mecca! Kill Mecca! Kill the Islams!" after the 9/11 attacks) and no one that does not want to get upset should click the link

theres a really cool revolver in the pic, though...the grip is red white and blue

did he really said killed mecca and kill islams? thats alittle too extreme cause not everyone in islam is a terrorist.

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#48 Pixel-Pirate
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A video on our rights to bear arms, and how we need to defend it.

vishawn

If I felt ones right to murder someone with assault rifles was an important thing, maybe. Right to bare arms, sure. I do not think one should have a right to own assault rifles and what have you. These are not necessary to self defense or hunting.

Personally I'd rather defend my right to free speech, privacy, etc. Which I feel is at more of a risk than guns being taken away.

Also Michael Savage isn't exactly a credible source. He's borderline hate speech at times.

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#49 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="xaos"]Without more info than that, there is exactly zero chance I will click on that linkTheShadowLord07

its a Michael Savage rant (this is the guy that yelled "Kill Mecca! Kill Mecca! Kill the Islams!" after the 9/11 attacks) and no one that does not want to get upset should click the link

theres a really cool revolver in the pic, though...the grip is red white and blue

did he really said killed mecca and kill islams? thats alittle too extreme cause not everyone in islam is a terrorist.

yea, I remember it vividly.

and yes, I, everyone I know, and I am pretty sure most of America and the world knows, practically all Muslims are not terrorists.

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#50 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="supercubedude64"]Is the point of the video to make Michael Savage look like a fanatical manic? Because that's all I got out of it.theone86

The video was trying to say that as long as you have arms the people can rise up against the government of the government every tried to do anything terrible with its people I.E. Nazi Germany.

An uprising then would have been a longshot with 20th century military tech, the way militaries are equipped now an uprising against the best in the world would be absolutely futile, not to mention just how far our government is from being anything even resembling Nazi Germany and how radical change would have to be for it to get to that point. Also, most Germans supported Hitler they were the exact opposite of oppressed, that is unless they happened to be Jewish or some other minority, and if they were a minority and they did take a potshot at some German officers they would've brought retribution upon themselves and anyone associated with them. That's absolutely the worst analogy I have ever heard.

I don't understand people who think a ragtag revolutionairy force of people in the US could possibly beat the US military. It would be a massacre.