Alabama Gov Signs Nation's Toughest Immigration Law

From the Article:

It also will be a crime to knowingly transport or harbor someone who is in the country illegally. The law imposes penalties on businesses that knowingly employ someone without legal resident status. A company's business license could be suspended or revoked.

The law requires Alabama businesses to use a database called E-Verify to confirm the immigration status of new employees.

Link to Full Article HERE

who would want to sneak into alabama? :Pcomp_atkins

On a serious note, the part of the article that says "stopped for any reason" made me take pause. I'm assuming/hoping that means if they get stopped for any legal reason (meaning stopped for running a red light, shoplifting, etc).

Beyond that, I think it's great that they are trying to compell the employers to use that E-verify system for several reasons.

If they are serious about immigration when they raid a country club and hall away all the country club repbulicans for hiring illegals till then it is just a joke, the same joke that has been repated for the last 500 years.

I see nothing wrong with this.

They way to stop illegal immigration (without making it legal) is to target the buisness that hire them. If it is no longer economical for companies to hire illegals, they will stop, and thus the illegals will stop coming over.

Glad to see that someone's targeting the business who profit off illegal labor and not just the immigrants. If I'm not mistaken I believe Oklahoma has a similar law on the books.

Seems like the right thing to do, unlike that ****** up Arizona law that they tried to pass last year.

Holy crap, they are actually going after the businesses that hire illegals? Don't tell me some actual common sense is being used to combat the immigration issue!

is "the help" excluded?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110302/ts_yblog_thelookout/proposed-texas-immigration-law-contains-convenient-loophole-for-the-help

who would want to sneak into alabama? :Pcomp_atkins

It's a great first step. I think they should be greatly penalized for hiring known illegals. I also like the part about people hiring illegals. I think it should be nationwide. Maybe it'll help to slow the huge influx of illegals just pouring in and getting free healthcare and schooling and jobs and housing. It's got to be slowed. As for the anchor babies. They have found a loophole whereas you can't kick out just the parents because then you have an orphan and if you kick out all of them, you are kicking out a born citizen. I think maybe they're going to have to find a way around this by stating that at least one parent has to be a citizen or they have to at least be applying for a work visa or citizenship. Otherwise, revoke the citizenship of the baby and all must leave. I hate to have to say that, but all a woman has to do is get pregnant and then sneak across the border and bam, 3 new citizens w/o applying or learning anything. Idiocracy is coming, I swear.

It's a great first step. I think they should be greatly penalized for hiring known illegals. I also like the part about people hiring illegals. I think it should be nationwide. Maybe it'll help to slow the huge influx of illegals just pouring in and getting free healthcare and schooling and jobs and housing. It's got to be slowed. As for the anchor babies. They have found a loophole whereas you can't kick out just the parents because then you have an orphan and if you kick out all of them, you are kicking out a born citizen. I think maybe they're going to have to find a way around this by stating that at least one parent has to be a citizen or they have to at least be applying for a work visa or citizenship. Otherwise, revoke the citizenship of the baby and all must leave. I hate to have to say that, but all a woman has to do is get pregnant and then sneak across the border and bam, 3 new citizens w/o applying or learning anything. Idiocracy is coming, I swear.

Sunfyre7896

You want to revoke someone's citizenship because of actions they have nothing to do with? Seriously?

It's a great first step. I think they should be greatly penalized for hiring known illegals. I also like the part about people hiring illegals. I think it should be nationwide. Maybe it'll help to slow the huge influx of illegals just pouring in and getting free healthcare and schooling and jobs and housing. It's got to be slowed. As for the anchor babies. They have found a loophole whereas you can't kick out just the parents because then you have an orphan and if you kick out all of them, you are kicking out a born citizen. I think maybe they're going to have to find a way around this by stating that at least one parent has to be a citizen or they have to at least be applying for a work visa or citizenship. Otherwise, revoke the citizenship of the baby and all must leave. I hate to have to say that, but all a woman has to do is get pregnant and then sneak across the border and bam, 3 new citizens w/o applying or learning anything. Idiocracy is coming, I swear.

Sunfyre7896

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

It's a great first step. I think they should be greatly penalized for hiring known illegals. I also like the part about people hiring illegals. I think it should be nationwide. Maybe it'll help to slow the huge influx of illegals just pouring in and getting free healthcare and schooling and jobs and housing. It's got to be slowed. As for the anchor babies. They have found a loophole whereas you can't kick out just the parents because then you have an orphan and if you kick out all of them, you are kicking out a born citizen. I think maybe they're going to have to find a way around this by stating that at least one parent has to be a citizen or they have to at least be applying for a work visa or citizenship. Otherwise, revoke the citizenship of the baby and all must leave. I hate to have to say that, but all a woman has to do is get pregnant and then sneak across the border and bam, 3 new citizens w/o applying or learning anything. Idiocracy is coming, I swear.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

It's a great first step. I think they should be greatly penalized for hiring known illegals. I also like the part about people hiring illegals. I think it should be nationwide. Maybe it'll help to slow the huge influx of illegals just pouring in and getting free healthcare and schooling and jobs and housing. It's got to be slowed. As for the anchor babies. They have found a loophole whereas you can't kick out just the parents because then you have an orphan and if you kick out all of them, you are kicking out a born citizen. I think maybe they're going to have to find a way around this by stating that at least one parent has to be a citizen or they have to at least be applying for a work visa or citizenship. Otherwise, revoke the citizenship of the baby and all must leave. I hate to have to say that, but all a woman has to do is get pregnant and then sneak across the border and bam, 3 new citizens w/o applying or learning anything. Idiocracy is coming, I swear.

Nibroc420

Nothing wrong with that....LJS9502_basic

As for the anchor babies. They have found a loophole whereas you can't kick out just the parents because then you have an orphan and if you kick out all of them, you are kicking out a born citizen. I think maybe they're going to have to find a way around this by stating that at least one parent has to be a citizen or they have to at least be applying for a work visa or citizenship. Otherwise, revoke the citizenship of the baby and all must leave.

Sunfyre7896

That would kind of require a constitutional amendment.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] They dont care about their children if they're simply using them to gain citizenship.Nibroc420

The child committed no crime and thus should not be punished for a crime it did not commit.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Therefore, we should kick the children out/make them orphans. Perfectly good use of the ol' logic there, chap.Theokhoth

The child committed no crime and thus should not be punished for a crime it did not commit.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Kick all of them out. 2 illegal immigrants jump border. Wife has child, child should not be a citizen. Remove all 3 from the country.Nibroc420

The child committed no crime and thus should not be punished for a crime it did not commit.

Maybe it'll help to slow the huge influx of illegals just pouring in and getting free healthcare and schooling and jobs and housing. It's got to be slowed.

Sunfyre7896

Some points here. I'm not sure how it is where you are but in DFW, the illegals go to the hospital for any and all sicknesses, get treated, and then pay absolutely nothing. I will repeat that. Absolutely nothing.

Another being that the kids get to go to school while the parents pay no taxes, including school taxes for the teachers that have to learn Spanish to teach them.

There used to be a decent amount of non-hispanic workers in construction here. This is a major area for road construction since the Texas budget for roads is huge and they must spend it every year or receive less. There is also a lot by means of newer buildings being built all the time. There are now very, very few non-hispanics working in construction here. I have heard firsthand that crews are now making sure from the foreman spot down, that they are discriminating against non-hispanics and not hiring them. It's not openly spoken of but the government isn't looking into it. Some of those jobs I know are from illegals while many people sit here without jobs. Just sayin.

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

As for the anchor babies. They have found a loophole whereas you can't kick out just the parents because then you have an orphan and if you kick out all of them, you are kicking out a born citizen. I think maybe they're going to have to find a way around this by stating that at least one parent has to be a citizen or they have to at least be applying for a work visa or citizenship. Otherwise, revoke the citizenship of the baby and all must leave.

GabuEx

That would kind of require a constitutional amendment.

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

Maybe it'll help to slow the huge influx of illegals just pouring in and getting free healthcare and schooling and jobs and housing. It's got to be slowed.

cybrcatter

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

As for the anchor babies. They have found a loophole whereas you can't kick out just the parents because then you have an orphan and if you kick out all of them, you are kicking out a born citizen. I think maybe they're going to have to find a way around this by stating that at least one parent has to be a citizen or they have to at least be applying for a work visa or citizenship. Otherwise, revoke the citizenship of the baby and all must leave.

GabuEx

That would kind of require a constitutional amendment.

huh...

This is one of the most well made immigration law in awhile

and from Alabama too.

Some points here. I'm not sure how it is where you are but in DFW, the illegals go to the hospital for any and all sicknesses, get treated, and then pay absolutely nothing. I will repeat that. Absolutely nothing.

Another being that the kids get to go to school while the parents pay no taxes, including school taxes for the teachers that have to learn Spanish to teach them.Sunfyre7896

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

Some points here. I'm not sure how it is where you are but in DFW, the illegals go to the hospital for any and all sicknesses, get treated, and then pay absolutely nothing. I will repeat that. Absolutely nothing.

Another being that the kids get to go to school while the parents pay no taxes, including school taxes for the teachers that have to learn Spanish to teach them.cybrcatter

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

As for the anchor babies. They have found a loophole whereas you can't kick out just the parents because then you have an orphan and if you kick out all of them, you are kicking out a born citizen. I think maybe they're going to have to find a way around this by stating that at least one parent has to be a citizen or they have to at least be applying for a work visa or citizenship. Otherwise, revoke the citizenship of the baby and all must leave.

DroidPhysX

That would kind of require a constitutional amendment.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

That would kind of require a constitutional amendment.

comp_atkins

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

That would kind of require a constitutional amendment.

comp_atkins

For a kid to be considered an anchor baby, it takes 1 or 2 illegal aliens to sneak into a country without trying to become citizens or get a work visa, and then once the child is born, they're an anchor baby. The reason they call them anchor babies is because the child acts as an anchor. It keeps the parents from getting deported since the child is automatically a citizen unlike any other country in the world. You can't make the child an orphan but you can't deport the sneaky illegals that take advantage of a loophole in immigration laws and they know it the same way Cubans utilize wet foot dry foot but this time while using the children. It would even be argued that many of the women get pregnant on purpose knowing that once they sneak across the border, have the child, won't be deported. I will give them credit for being smart about it, despite being devious and illegal.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Or it depends on your interpretation on the 14th amendment. Some states are already passing laws that do not give citizenship outright to 'anchor babies' in hope that the Supreme Court might interpret it so anchor babies are not covered.Sunfyre7896

For a kid to be considered an anchor baby, it takes 1 or 2 illegal aliens to sneak into a country without trying to become citizens or get a work visa, and then once the child is born, they're an anchor baby. The reason they call them anchor babies is because the child acts as an anchor. It keeps the parents from getting deported since the child is automatically a citizen unlike any other country in the world. You can't make the child an orphan but you can't deport the sneaky illegals that take advantage of a loophole in immigration laws and they know it the same way Cubans utilize wet foot dry foot but this time while using the children. It would even be argued that many of the women get pregnant on purpose knowing that once they sneak across the border, have the child, won't be deported. I will give them credit for being smart about it, despite being devious and illegal.

From the Article:

It also will be a crime to knowingly transport or harbor someone who is in the country illegally. The law imposes penalties on businesses that knowingly employ someone without legal resident status. A company's business license could be suspended or revoked.

The law requires Alabama businesses to use a database called E-Verify to confirm the immigration status of new employees.

Link to Full Article HERE

YellowOneKinobi

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] i don't get it.. aren't all babies anchors? DroidPhysX

For a kid to be considered an anchor baby, it takes 1 or 2 illegal aliens to sneak into a country without trying to become citizens or get a work visa, and then once the child is born, they're an anchor baby. The reason they call them anchor babies is because the child acts as an anchor. It keeps the parents from getting deported since the child is automatically a citizen unlike any other country in the world. You can't make the child an orphan but you can't deport the sneaky illegals that take advantage of a loophole in immigration laws and they know it the same way Cubans utilize wet foot dry foot but this time while using the children. It would even be argued that many of the women get pregnant on purpose knowing that once they sneak across the border, have the child, won't be deported. I will give them credit for being smart about it, despite being devious and illegal.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

For a kid to be considered an anchor baby, it takes 1 or 2 illegal aliens to sneak into a country without trying to become citizens or get a work visa, and then once the child is born, they're an anchor baby. The reason they call them anchor babies is because the child acts as an anchor. It keeps the parents from getting deported since the child is automatically a citizen unlike any other country in the world. You can't make the child an orphan but you can't deport the sneaky illegals that take advantage of a loophole in immigration laws and they know it the same way Cubans utilize wet foot dry foot but this time while using the children. It would even be argued that many of the women get pregnant on purpose knowing that once they sneak across the border, have the child, won't be deported. I will give them credit for being smart about it, despite being devious and illegal.

Nibroc420

The use of a loophole is by definition legal. That's what makes it a loophole.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] It's legal and constitutional.

GabuEx

The use of a loophole is by definition legal. That's what makes it a loophole.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] It's a loophole that is being abused.Nibroc420

The use of a loophole is by definition legal. That's what makes it a loophole.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] It's a loophole that is being abused.Nibroc420

The use of a loophole is by definition legal. That's what makes it a loophole.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Or it depends on your interpretation on the 14th amendment. Some states are already passing laws that do not give citizenship outright to 'anchor babies' in hope that the Supreme Court might interpret it so anchor babies are not covered.Sunfyre7896

For a kid to be considered an anchor baby, it takes 1 or 2 illegal aliens to sneak into a country without trying to become citizens or get a work visa, and then once the child is born, they're an anchor baby. The reason they call them anchor babies is because the child acts as an anchor. It keeps the parents from getting deported since the child is automatically a citizen unlike any other country in the world. You can't make the child an orphan but you can't deport the sneaky illegals that take advantage of a loophole in immigration laws and they know it the same way Cubans utilize wet foot dry foot but this time while using the children. It would even be argued that many of the women get pregnant on purpose knowing that once they sneak across the border, have the child, won't be deported. I will give them credit for being smart about it, despite being devious and illegal.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

The use of a loophole is by definition legal. That's what makes it a loophole.

stanleycup98

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] And it needs to be fixed.DroidPhysX