Albums sales from the week ending May 30th hit an all time low.
Link: http://www.billboard.com/#/news/album-sales-plummet-to-lowest-total-in-decades-1004095638.story
Thoughts?
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I think it is more of a commentary on the state of the economy and the quality of music than of music pirating...
It might just be me, but music seems to suck a whole lot more now than it used to. Can't say that I'm surprised.
Not exactly a yes or no question. Yes they make more money on ticket sales than CD sales....but they need their company to put money into the tour...and if they aren't selling CDs.....not getting much financial help from the industry.Don't musicians make more money from concerts than CDs?
entropyecho
I purchase CDs for the most...unless it's just one song I like by a band and then I buy the song...but that's rare.
It's just you, selective nostalgia, and laziness :) There is plenty of music out there today that wipes the floor with many of the "cIassics", you just have to look for it.It might just be me, but music seems to suck a whole lot more now than it used to. Can't say that I'm surprised.
coolbeans90
I'm proud to say I'm one of the ones that always has and always will by full albums whenever possible :) (And always CDs, **** paying for digital downloads)Darth-CaedusI 2nd this for myself.
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]It's just you, selective nostalgia, and laziness :) There is plenty of music out there today that wipes the floor with many of the "cIassics", you just have to look for it. And I'll also second this. :)It might just be me, but music seems to suck a whole lot more now than it used to. Can't say that I'm surprised.
Darth-Caedus
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]It's just you, selective nostalgia, and laziness :) There is plenty of music out there today that wipes the floor with many of the "cIassics", you just have to look for it.It might just be me, but music seems to suck a whole lot more now than it used to. Can't say that I'm surprised.
Darth-Caedus
Yeah, I was guessing it was that. Just been trying to deny it. :P
But yeah, laziness would be the key. Since I'm not searching for music, I mainly hear mainstream stuff, 90% + of which in my opinion sucks really sucks.
CDs actually tend to be much cheaper then digital downloads if you know where to look (*cough*Amazon alt sellers*cough* ) and you get the full package (Album art, liner notes, etc.) and you can control the quality of the rip you get. CDs are a much more worthwhile thing to purchase IMO. :PIs this as in physical CDs?
Because if so, I'm not surprised - I pretty much only buy my music in digital format, being that the only thing I ever do with albums is rip them to my computer and then shelve them.
GabuEx
[QUOTE="GabuEx"]CDs actually tend to be much cheaper then digital downloads if you know where to look (*cough*Amazon alt sellers*cough* ) and you get the full package (Album art, liner notes, etc.) and you can control the quality of the rip you get. CDs are a much more worthwhile thing to purchase IMO. :P I think this is the first time we've agreed. And I get most of my CDs of Amazon sellers.....Is this as in physical CDs?
Because if so, I'm not surprised - I pretty much only buy my music in digital format, being that the only thing I ever do with albums is rip them to my computer and then shelve them.
Darth-Caedus
[QUOTE="GabuEx"]CDs actually tend to be much cheaper then digital downloads if you know where to look (*cough*Amazon alt sellers*cough* ) and you get the full package (Album art, liner notes, etc.) and you can control the quality of the rip you get. CDs are a much more worthwhile thing to purchase IMO. :P Amazon Prime is the best when it comes to buying albums. Cheap prices and fast shipping. I love Amazon.Is this as in physical CDs?
Because if so, I'm not surprised - I pretty much only buy my music in digital format, being that the only thing I ever do with albums is rip them to my computer and then shelve them.
Darth-Caedus
I buy my physical cds at a local music store which has a chain only in only two states. You can buy through them online. Very cheap when cds come out, sell used cds and a frequent buyer card that can let you get certain items half price if you have enough points.
I like cds much more for the artwork and linear notes.
I think this is the first time we've agreed. And I get most of my CDs of Amazon sellers.....LJS9502_basicHoly crap! *checks calender to make sure I haven't some how been transported to 2012* :P [QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] Amazon Prime is the best when it comes to buying albums. Cheap prices and fast shipping. I love Amazon.I buy 95% of my music from the alt sellers on Amazon, absolutely love them :3
Materialism?This makes me sad. I remember the days when I would go down to Tower Records and spent ages looking through the selection. I like digital downloading, but there is something about having a physical album that downloading will never replicate.
Film-Guy
In my humble opinion, the industry should worry when live shows don't sell out in minutes (literally). I don't think there has been a major act that has not sold out (again, literally in a few minutes) an arena or hall in my town. I suppose my city could just be a statistical outlier; doubt it though.
[QUOTE="entropyecho"]this. *sigh* It's this misconception that causes some people to not buy CD's because they "will see them in concert*.Don't musicians make more money from concerts than CDs?
Dr_Brocoli
Bands generally get funded by their record companies (who generally make the profit on CD's) for their production, concerts, music videos, etc. etc. Fans don't buy CD's, the companies are more likely to put less money into advertising the band and paying for their expenses, and then less exposure makes even less sales, and it's just a slippery slope.
Translation: BUY THE ****ING CD!!
this. *sigh* It's this misconception that causes some people to not buy CD's because they "will see them in concert*.[QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]
Don't musicians make more money from concerts than CDs?
Bluestorm-Kalas
Bands generally get funded by their record companies (who generally make the profit on CD's) for their production, concerts, music videos, etc. etc. Fans don't buy CD's, the companies are more likely to put less money into advertising the band and paying for their expenses, and then less exposure makes even less sales, and it's just a slippery slope.
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I already addressed that CD sales were important....not for the money made...but the continued support.:DThis makes me sad. I remember the days when I would go down to Tower Records and spent ages looking through the selection. I like digital downloading, but there is something about having a physical album that downloading will never replicate.
Materialism? No, the whole part of the artist piece of work. There is much more to an album than the digital recording and art work.[QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"]*sigh* It's this misconception that causes some people to not buy CD's because they "will see them in concert*.[QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"] this.LJS9502_basic
Bands generally get funded by their record companies (who generally make the profit on CD's) for their production, concerts, music videos, etc. etc. Fans don't buy CD's, the companies are more likely to put less money into advertising the band and paying for their expenses, and then less exposure makes even less sales, and it's just a slippery slope.
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I already addressed that CD sales were important....not for the money made...but the continued support.:D That's true only for the largest of bands.Instead, I spend plenty of money every year going to concerts, where bands I like get a larger potion of the dough. Ohh, record labels aren't getting their $15 off of a cd that costs $.005 to make, for which the artist sees only a fraction of? Boo hoo hoo. cybrcatterIt costs more than .005 cents to make a CD. You don't think the only cost incurred is the amount of the physical format do you?:|
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"] *sigh* It's this misconception that causes some people to not buy CD's because they "will see them in concert*.I already addressed that CD sales were important....not for the money made...but the continued support.:D That's true only for the largest of bands. No it's true of all bands. Companies don't support bands that don't sell.Bands generally get funded by their record companies (who generally make the profit on CD's) for their production, concerts, music videos, etc. etc. Fans don't buy CD's, the companies are more likely to put less money into advertising the band and paying for their expenses, and then less exposure makes even less sales, and it's just a slippery slope.
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cybrcatter
[QUOTE="GabuEx"]CDs actually tend to be much cheaper then digital downloads if you know where to look (*cough*Amazon alt sellers*cough* ) and you get the full package (Album art, liner notes, etc.) and you can control the quality of the rip you get. CDs are a much more worthwhile thing to purchase IMO. :PIs this as in physical CDs?
Because if so, I'm not surprised - I pretty much only buy my music in digital format, being that the only thing I ever do with albums is rip them to my computer and then shelve them.
Darth-Caedus
I don't care about album art and liner notes; I only listen to music on digital devices; and the quality of digital downloaded music is fine by me. CDs just needlessly take up space as far as I'm concerned.
CDs actually tend to be much cheaper then digital downloads if you know where to look (*cough*Amazon alt sellers*cough* ) and you get the full package (Album art, liner notes, etc.) and you can control the quality of the rip you get. CDs are a much more worthwhile thing to purchase IMO. :P[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]
Is this as in physical CDs?
Because if so, I'm not surprised - I pretty much only buy my music in digital format, being that the only thing I ever do with albums is rip them to my computer and then shelve them.
GabuEx
I don't care about album art and liner notes; I only listen to music on digital devices; and the quality of digital downloaded music is fine by me. CDs just needlessly take up space as far as I'm concerned.
Fair enough I guess...I personally love looking at my CD collection and seeing all the awesome artwork in it, collecting CDs is just so much more rewarding then digital downloads to me, which just seem....IDK...soulless is the closest thing I can think of to describe it.:PThat's true only for the largest of bands. No it's true of all bands. Companies don't support bands that don't sell. Well you said it. It's not about what the companies need. It's about what the bands need. This isn't the same world of music that it was 20 years ago. Record labels granted themselves far too much clout in the music world. They have become the most self absorbed middle man that can be found. And their relevance is dying. The information age is slowly shoving them out the door and letting the bands and fans decide how things are going to roll. And performing artists can make more of their money where they should be: Performing.[QUOTE="cybrcatter"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I already addressed that CD sales were important....not for the money made...but the continued support.:DLJS9502_basic
I wonder if Vinyl sales have gone up or down recently. They were increaseing from 2006 to 2007 to 2008, and I believe 2009 don't know about 2010 yet.
Vinyl is one format that I do indeed collect.I wonder if Vinyl sales have gone up or down recently. They were increaseing from 2006 to 2007 to 2008, and I believe 2009 don't know about 2010 yet.
DarkGamer007
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No it's true of all bands. Companies don't support bands that don't sell. Well you said it. It's not about what the companies need. It's about what the bands need. This isn't the same world of music that it was 20 years ago. Record labels granted themselves far too much clout in the music world. They have become the most self absorbed middle man that can be found. And their relevance is dying. The information age is slowly shoving them out the door and letting the bands and fans decide how things are going to roll. And performing artists can make more of their money where they should be: Performing. Not many bands are for piracy dude.....and it's not up to fans to decide to take their music without compensation.[QUOTE="cybrcatter"] That's true only for the largest of bands. cybrcatter
CDs actually tend to be much cheaper then digital downloads if you know where to look (*cough*Amazon alt sellers*cough* ) and you get the full package (Album art, liner notes, etc.) and you can control the quality of the rip you get. CDs are a much more worthwhile thing to purchase IMO. :P[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]
Is this as in physical CDs?
Because if so, I'm not surprised - I pretty much only buy my music in digital format, being that the only thing I ever do with albums is rip them to my computer and then shelve them.
GabuEx
I don't care about album art and liner notes; I only listen to music on digital devices; and the quality of digital downloaded music is fine by me. CDs just needlessly take up space as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah i've started buying lots of music online because i've run out of room for my cd's which are just collecting dust because they are all uploaded to my ipod :P
[QUOTE="cybrcatter"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No it's true of all bands. Companies don't support bands that don't sell.Well you said it. It's not about what the companies need. It's about what the bands need. This isn't the same world of music that it was 20 years ago. Record labels granted themselves far too much clout in the music world. They have become the most self absorbed middle man that can be found. And their relevance is dying. The information age is slowly shoving them out the door and letting the bands and fans decide how things are going to roll. And performing artists can make more of their money where they should be: Performing. Not many bands are for piracy dude.....and it's not up to fans to decide to take their music without compensation.LJS9502_basic
Buy from Amazon alt sellers dude, I frequently get CDs for way less then $10.Awesome, CD's shouldn' cost more than 10 dollars.
UbiquitousAeon
And they need financial backing by their record company for those shows. As for that link.....with piracy costing artists money...it's logical that live shows would surpass money spent on buying music.
Of course they are not, but they don't have any control of that aspect of revenue. They do, however, have exceedingly more control and influence in live performances. I have a budget constraint for how much I'm going to spend on music. I'm happy to spend it on the bands I like, and I would rather spend it going to see the band, than buying a CD.
Many of the artists are not the ones bearing the grunt of this pain:cybrcatter
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