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This one right here. Sure it has some duds on it, but it also contained some of the best songs he's ever made in my opinion such as "Like Toy Soldiers" and "Yellow Brick Road."

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Abbey Road
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Animal- ke$ha... well everyone just seems to hate her.
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Abbey RoadAgent-Zero

Who hates Abbey Road?

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Such a strange album. It's so stark and minimalistic and just all around sonically weird that I think people were turned off. It's like she was trying to make her version of John Lennon's Plastic Ono Band. It's the kind of album that pop stars usually don't dare to make for fear of alienating the masses. I'll admit that the lyrics can be shoddy at times, but its such a fascinatingly strange soundscape with some beautiful acoustic ballads. It basically sounds the way the cover looks.

This is such a gorgeous song:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ee82hJ_jBU

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I like the cardigans gran tourismo but I don't know one other person that does...

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#7 mexicangordo
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Im pretty sure Encore was well received by fans and critics, It is Recovery that everyone hated because it was a very crappy album.

My choice is easily

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Im pretty sure Encore was well received by fans and critics, It is Recovery that everyone hated because it was a very crappy album.

My choice is easily

mexicangordo

Encore is genally considered his worst album, especially by fans.

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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Im pretty sure Encore was well received by fans and critics, It is Recovery that everyone hated because it was a very crappy album.

My choice is easily

SuperSaiyanLink

Encore is genally considered his worst album, especially by fans.

Ive worked as a Music Journalist for a long time, and the most negative response Ive seen was Recovery by far. If Encore was so "bad" it wouldnt have sold so well, unlike Recovery that started out incredible well but word of mouth spread and the singles sucked and sales wise it bombed. Even Eminem calls himself out in "Not Afraid."

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Animal- ke$ha... well everyone just seems to hate her. Are_Ya_Ready

Because she has 0 talent. Whether she is singing or rapping, she does it badly.

She's living proof that anyone with a pulse can get a record deal these days.

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Ah, let me see

Fearless

Speak Now

and T. Swift

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[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Im pretty sure Encore was well received by fans and critics, It is Recovery that everyone hated because it was a very crappy album.

My choice is easily

mexicangordo

Encore is genally considered his worst album, especially by fans.

Ive worked as a Music Journalist for a long time, and the most negative response Ive seen was Recovery by far. If Encore was so "bad" it wouldnt have sold so well, unlike Recovery that started out incredible well but word of mouth spread and the singles sucked and sales wise it bombed. Even Eminem calls himself out in "Not Afraid."

Uhh sales wise Recovery's the most sucessful album of the last three years. http://www.billboard.com/#/news/eminem-s-recovery-is-2010?s-best-1004137895.story

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Im pretty sure Encore was well received by fans and critics, It is Recovery that everyone hated because it was a very crappy album.

My choice is easily

mexicangordo

Recovery is an incredible album. And it scored well with the critics. Encore on the other hand didn't receive as much love. I will admit it had some pretty bad tracks such as "My First Single", "Big Weenie", and "A** Like That." But the rest of the album more than made up for the less-than-par tracks.

I'm curious to know why you didn't like Recovery. As far as I'm concerned, it's his best album since The Eminem Show.

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I think you're getting confused with Relapse, however that sold well too. If memory serves correct it was the most sucessful album of 2009 behind Susan Boyle.

Either way, all 3 (Encore, Relapse , and Recovery) are interchangable imo. Each have some great and some not so great songs. And neither of them hold a candle to his earlier work.

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'The Great Milenko' by Insane Clown Posse-- it's the one on the bottom left hand side in my sig. It's easily their best album, in my opinion. The album [and the other ICP albums] recieves hatred not because of the music, but because of the band that made it. The resentment towards ICP and juggalos doesn't bother me, though; I just laugh along with it. I love it when someone asks me how f***ing magnets work! :P

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#16 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]Encore is genally considered his worst album, especially by fans.

SuperSaiyanLink

Ive worked as a Music Journalist for a long time, and the most negative response Ive seen was Recovery by far. If Encore was so "bad" it wouldnt have sold so well, unlike Recovery that started out incredible well but word of mouth spread and the singles sucked and sales wise it bombed. Even Eminem calls himself out in "Not Afraid."

Uhh sales wise Recovery's the most sucessful album of the last three years. http://www.billboard.com/#/news/eminem-s-recovery-is-2010?s-best-1004137895.story

Big mistake, I confused Recovery with Relapse, I ment to say Relapse is his least popular.

Encore- 11 Million Worldwide

Relapse-4.5 Million

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[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Im pretty sure Encore was well received by fans and critics, It is Recovery that everyone hated because it was a very crappy album.

My choice is easily

mexicangordo

Encore is genally considered his worst album, especially by fans.

Ive worked as a Music Journalist for a long time, and the most negative response Ive seen was Recovery by far. If Encore was so "bad" it wouldnt have sold so well, unlike Recovery that started out incredible well but word of mouth spread and the singles sucked and sales wise it bombed. Even Eminem calls himself out in "Not Afraid."

Encore sold well because it was more or less riding off the success of The Eminem Show. And have you actually read the reviews for Recovery? Sure there are some negative ones out there, but almost every review I've has given it a positive score. And it sold incredibly well to considering we're in an age dominated by pirating.

EDIT: Lol, just saw the admittance of your mistake. Carry on.:P

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[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Ive worked as a Music Journalist for a long time, and the most negative response Ive seen was Recovery by far. If Encore was so "bad" it wouldnt have sold so well, unlike Recovery that started out incredible well but word of mouth spread and the singles sucked and sales wise it bombed. Even Eminem calls himself out in "Not Afraid."

mexicangordo

Uhh sales wise Recovery's the most sucessful album of the last three years. http://www.billboard.com/#/news/eminem-s-recovery-is-2010?s-best-1004137895.story

Big mistake, I confused Recovery with Relapse, I ment to say Relapse is his least popular.

Encore- 11 Million Worldwide

Relapse-4.5 Million

You can't compare the two sales-wise, the music industry is a different place. CDs don't sell nearly as well as they did just 6 years ago.

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Let it be
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I think you're getting confused with Relapse, however that sold well too. If memory serves correct it was the most sucessful album of 2009 behind Susan Boyle.

Either way, all 3 (Encore, Relapse , and Recovery) are interchangable imo. Each have some great and some not so great songs. And neither of them hold a candle to his earlier work.

SuperSaiyanLink

Yea i did get it confused with Relapse, woops. But it sold well for the year, but not compared to his past work. Either way, I thought Encore was decent, it wasn't horrible nor excellent but I thought Relapse and Recovery were just huge steps back. Both albums, imo were Eminems worst by far.

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#21 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]Uhh sales wise Recovery's the most sucessful album of the last three years. http://www.billboard.com/#/news/eminem-s-recovery-is-2010?s-best-1004137895.story

SuperSaiyanLink

Big mistake, I confused Recovery with Relapse, I ment to say Relapse is his least popular.

Encore- 11 Million Worldwide

Relapse-4.5 Million

You can't compare the two sales-wise, the music industry is a different place. CDs don't sell nearly as well as they did just 6 years ago.

Lol no, it doesn't work like that. The music industry is in a completely different place BUT if music is good, and appeals to the people, then the interest is still their. Look at Gaga, and Bieber...ect Eminem is no different. The music effected the sales of the album, not to say the musical environment wasn't a factor.

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[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

I think you're getting confused with Relapse, however that sold well too. If memory serves correct it was the most sucessful album of 2009 behind Susan Boyle.

Either way, all 3 (Encore, Relapse , and Recovery) are interchangable imo. Each have some great and some not so great songs. And neither of them hold a candle to his earlier work.

mexicangordo

Yea i did get it confused with Relapse, woops. But it sold well for the year, but not compared to his past work. Either way, I thought Encore was decent, it wasn't horrible nor excellent but I thought Relapse and Recovery were just huge steps back. Both albums, imo were Eminems worst by far.

I can get behind Relapse being labeled as a step back, but definitely not Recovery. Recovery has some incredible material on it.

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#23 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

I think you're getting confused with Relapse, however that sold well too. If memory serves correct it was the most sucessful album of 2009 behind Susan Boyle.

Either way, all 3 (Encore, Relapse , and Recovery) are interchangable imo. Each have some great and some not so great songs. And neither of them hold a candle to his earlier work.

KH-mixerX

Yea i did get it confused with Relapse, woops. But it sold well for the year, but not compared to his past work. Either way, I thought Encore was decent, it wasn't horrible nor excellent but I thought Relapse and Recovery were just huge steps back. Both albums, imo were Eminems worst by far.

I can get behind Relapse being labeled as a step back, but definitely not Recovery. Recovery has some incredible material on it.

Opinions are opinions, but what was on Recovery we all have heard before on The Eminem show, the only difference is, The Eminem Show was done way better.

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#24 KH-mixerX
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[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Yea i did get it confused with Relapse, woops. But it sold well for the year, but not compared to his past work. Either way, I thought Encore was decent, it wasn't horrible nor excellent but I thought Relapse and Recovery were just huge steps back. Both albums, imo were Eminems worst by far.

mexicangordo

I can get behind Relapse being labeled as a step back, but definitely not Recovery. Recovery has some incredible material on it.

Opinions are opinions, but what was on Recovery we all have heard before on The Eminem show, the only difference is, The Eminem Show was done way better.

Well, I can't really argue with that. Like you said, opinions are opinions. I still sorely disagree with you though. Recovery is an evolution of The Eminem Show. Not a copy. Vulnerability is something we've never seen from Eminem, and it's definitely in abundance on Recovery. If he continues on the path he's on right now, I'll be more than pleased.

Some of my favorite tracks to give an example of what I mean:

Talkin' 2 Myself

Going Through Changes

25 to Life

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#25 SuperSaiyanLink
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[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]Big mistake, I confused Recovery with Relapse, I ment to say Relapse is his least popular.

Encore- 11 Million Worldwide

Relapse-4.5 Million

mexicangordo

You can't compare the two sales-wise, the music industry is a different place. CDs don't sell nearly as well as they did just 6 years ago.

Lol no, it doesn't work like that. The music industry is in a completely different place BUT if music is good, and appeals to the people, then the interest is still their. Look at Gaga, and Bieber...ect Eminem is no different. The music effected the sales of the album, not to say the musical environment wasn't a factor.

You can't tell me piracy doesn't stop people from buying albums. lol

Eminem's the most successful artist in the world right now, and he's selling a fraction of what he used to sell. The Marshall Mathers LP sold over 20 million copies.

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[QUOTE="Are_Ya_Ready"]Animal- ke$ha... well everyone just seems to hate her. GreySeal9

Because she has 0 talent. Whether she is singing or rapping, she does it badly.

She's living proof that anyone with a pulse can get a record deal these days.

But her lyrics are pure poetic beauty.

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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]You can't compare the two sales-wise, the music industry is a different place. CDs don't sell nearly as well as they did just 6 years ago.

SuperSaiyanLink

Lol no, it doesn't work like that. The music industry is in a completely different place BUT if music is good, and appeals to the people, then the interest is still their. Look at Gaga, and Bieber...ect Eminem is no different. The music effected the sales of the album, not to say the musical environment wasn't a factor.

You can't tell me piracy doesn't stop people from buying albums. lol

Eminem's the most successful artist in the world right now, and he's selling a fraction of what he used to sell. The Marshall Mathers LP sold over 20 million copies.

But that was Emimen was THE hottest star in music, their was so much hype around him and The Marshall Matter was incredible critically acclaimed. Those are some pretty big factor's imo. Not to mention it was Slim Shady rapping a lot of the time and not Eminem.

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[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Lol no, it doesn't work like that. The music industry is in a completely different place BUT if music is good, and appeals to the people, then the interest is still their. Look at Gaga, and Bieber...ect Eminem is no different. The music effected the sales of the album, not to say the musical environment wasn't a factor.

mexicangordo

You can't tell me piracy doesn't stop people from buying albums. lol

Eminem's the most successful artist in the world right now, and he's selling a fraction of what he used to sell. The Marshall Mathers LP sold over 20 million copies.

But that was Emimen was THE hottest star in music, their was so much hype around him and The Marshall Matter was incredible critically acclaimed. Those are some pretty big factor's imo. Not to mention it was Slim Shady rapping a lot of the time and not Eminem.

It's across the board.

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[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Lol no, it doesn't work like that. The music industry is in a completely different place BUT if music is good, and appeals to the people, then the interest is still their. Look at Gaga, and Bieber...ect Eminem is no different. The music effected the sales of the album, not to say the musical environment wasn't a factor.

mexicangordo

You can't tell me piracy doesn't stop people from buying albums. lol

Eminem's the most successful artist in the world right now, and he's selling a fraction of what he used to sell. The Marshall Mathers LP sold over 20 million copies.

But that was Emimen was THE hottest star in music, their was so much hype around him and The Marshall Matter was incredible critically acclaimed. Those are some pretty big factor's imo. Not to mention it was Slim Shady rapping a lot of the time and not Eminem.

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with SuperSaiyanLink on this one. Piracy is utterly destroying the music industry right now. You do have a point though. The 5 year hiatus he took definitely had an impact on the sales of his last few records. During that time everyone forgot about Eminem. And there's no way that that didn't effect the sales just a bit.

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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

I can get behind Relapse being labeled as a step back, but definitely not Recovery. Recovery has some incredible material on it.

KH-mixerX

Opinions are opinions, but what was on Recovery we all have heard before on The Eminem show, the only difference is, The Eminem Show was done way better.

Well, I can't really argue with that. Like you said, opinions are opinions. I still sorely disagree with you though. Recovery is an evolution of The Eminem Show. Not a copy. Vulnerability is something we've never seen from Eminem, and it's definitely in abundance on Recovery. If he continues on the path he's on right now, I'll be more than pleased.

Some of my favorite tracks to give an example of what I mean:

Talkin' 2 Myself

Going Through Changes

25 to Life

Look, If I didn't recognize Eminems other albums, I would say Recovery was a good album, not great but good. However this is the guy who made 3 of the best mainstream Hip-Hop albums in a row, just because he continues his music should we lower our expectations of him? Or him to us? I don't think so. The same way a chef is expected to continue his growth of cooking fantastic food, and is expected to take constructive critic from peers and critics alike; the same way I see any artist who continues to try's to lift the bars and create a better form of art.

You can take that for what it is, but I still stand. :P

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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]You can't tell me piracy doesn't stop people from buying albums. lol

Eminem's the most successful artist in the world right now, and he's selling a fraction of what he used to sell. The Marshall Mathers LP sold over 20 million copies.

KH-mixerX

But that was Emimen was THE hottest star in music, their was so much hype around him and The Marshall Matter was incredible critically acclaimed. Those are some pretty big factor's imo. Not to mention it was Slim Shady rapping a lot of the time and not Eminem.

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with SuperSaiyanLink on this one. Piracy is utterly destroying the music industry right now. You do have a point though. The 5 year hiatus he took definitely had an impact on the sales of his last few records. During that time everyone forgot about Eminem. And there's no way that that didn't effect the sales just a bit.

He just had two number one singles though. He's everyone's favorite rapper again. :/

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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]You can't tell me piracy doesn't stop people from buying albums. lol

Eminem's the most successful artist in the world right now, and he's selling a fraction of what he used to sell. The Marshall Mathers LP sold over 20 million copies.

KH-mixerX

But that was Emimen was THE hottest star in music, their was so much hype around him and The Marshall Matter was incredible critically acclaimed. Those are some pretty big factor's imo. Not to mention it was Slim Shady rapping a lot of the time and not Eminem.

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with SuperSaiyanLink on this one. Piracy is utterly destroying the music industry right now. You do have a point though. The 5 year hiatus he took definitely had an impact on the sales of his last few records. During that time everyone forgot about Eminem. And there's no way that that didn't effect the sales just a bit.

Wait a minute, so you guys talk about Piracy being an issue when thats not even why the Music industry is in complete shambles. Its the rise of the MP3 my friends that ruined the old structure, for better and worse.

Music still sells, why is it that Recovery is out performing Encore yet Relapse is not? If music is not met with the right expectations then people won't listen to it. Easy as that. People know what to expect from the Kesha's and Pink's and Miley's. Thats what they enjoy.

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[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] But that was Emimen was THE hottest star in music, their was so much hype around him and The Marshall Matter was incredible critically acclaimed. Those are some pretty big factor's imo. Not to mention it was Slim Shady rapping a lot of the time and not Eminem.

SuperSaiyanLink

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with SuperSaiyanLink on this one. Piracy is utterly destroying the music industry right now. You do have a point though. The 5 year hiatus he took definitely had an impact on the sales of his last few records. During that time everyone forgot about Eminem. And there's no way that that didn't effect the sales just a bit.

He just had two number one singles though. He's everyone's favorite rapper again. :/

We are talking about Relapse not Recovery friend. ;)

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To give you people a brighter image of what I'm talking about.

Haters! Y U NO WUV HER MUZIK! :P jks

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[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] But that was Emimen was THE hottest star in music, their was so much hype around him and The Marshall Matter was incredible critically acclaimed. Those are some pretty big factor's imo. Not to mention it was Slim Shady rapping a lot of the time and not Eminem.

mexicangordo

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with SuperSaiyanLink on this one. Piracy is utterly destroying the music industry right now. You do have a point though. The 5 year hiatus he took definitely had an impact on the sales of his last few records. During that time everyone forgot about Eminem. And there's no way that that didn't effect the sales just a bit.

Wait a minute, so you guys talk about Piracy being an issue when thats not even why the Music industry is in complete shambles. Its the rise of the MP3 my friends that ruined the old structure, for better and worse.

Music still sells, why is it that Recovery is out performing Encore yet Relapse is not? If music is not met with the right expectations then people won't listen to it. Easy as that. People know what to expect from the Kesha's and Pink's and Miley's. Thats what they enjoy.

Recovery isn't out preforming Encore. Recovery has sold 5.6 million.

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#36 KH-mixerX
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[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Opinions are opinions, but what was on Recovery we all have heard before on The Eminem show, the only difference is, The Eminem Show was done way better.

mexicangordo

Well, I can't really argue with that. Like you said, opinions are opinions. I still sorely disagree with you though. Recovery is an evolution of The Eminem Show. Not a copy. Vulnerability is something we've never seen from Eminem, and it's definitely in abundance on Recovery. If he continues on the path he's on right now, I'll be more than pleased.

Some of my favorite tracks to give an example of what I mean:

Talkin' 2 Myself

Going Through Changes

25 to Life

Look, If I didn't recognize Eminems other albums, I would say Recovery was a good album, not great but good. However this is the guy who made 3 of the best mainstream Hip-Hop albums in a row, just because he continues his music should we lower our expectations of him? Or him to us? I don't think so. The same way a chef is expected to continue his growth of cooking fantastic food, and is expected to take constructive critic from peers and critics alike; the same way I see any artist who continues to try's to lift the bars and create a better form of art.

You can take that for what it is, but I still stand. :P

I think you missed the part where I said I couldn't argue with you pointing out that opinions are opinions. You have yours and I have mine. I just happen to think the exact opposite. Recovery was a bold triumph in my eyes. Not only did he manage to crawl back from the abyss that was Relapse, he also managed to move forward the genre as a whole.

I digress. To each his own.

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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with SuperSaiyanLink on this one. Piracy is utterly destroying the music industry right now. You do have a point though. The 5 year hiatus he took definitely had an impact on the sales of his last few records. During that time everyone forgot about Eminem. And there's no way that that didn't effect the sales just a bit.

SuperSaiyanLink

Wait a minute, so you guys talk about Piracy being an issue when thats not even why the Music industry is in complete shambles. Its the rise of the MP3 my friends that ruined the old structure, for better and worse.

Music still sells, why is it that Recovery is out performing Encore yet Relapse is not? If music is not met with the right expectations then people won't listen to it. Easy as that. People know what to expect from the Kesha's and Pink's and Miley's. Thats what they enjoy.

Recovery isn't out preforming Encore. Recovery sold 4.32 million.

Encore has sold that much in its life time, Recovery hasn't been out for a year yet. Its out performing Encore so far.

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[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] But that was Emimen was THE hottest star in music, their was so much hype around him and The Marshall Matter was incredible critically acclaimed. Those are some pretty big factor's imo. Not to mention it was Slim Shady rapping a lot of the time and not Eminem.

mexicangordo

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with SuperSaiyanLink on this one. Piracy is utterly destroying the music industry right now. You do have a point though. The 5 year hiatus he took definitely had an impact on the sales of his last few records. During that time everyone forgot about Eminem. And there's no way that that didn't effect the sales just a bit.

Wait a minute, so you guys talk about Piracy being an issue when thats not even why the Music industry is in complete shambles. Its the rise of the MP3 my friends that ruined the old structure, for better and worse.

Music still sells, why is it that Recovery is out performing Encore yet Relapse is not? If music is not met with the right expectations then people won't listen to it. Easy as that. People know what to expect from the Kesha's and Pink's and Miley's. Thats what they enjoy.

Sure, MP3's have contributed to the destruction of the music industry, but I refuse to believe that it has been more damaging than piracy. I don't know anyone who actually buys their music anymore. Pirating music on the internet is as easy as using Google nowadays. And everyone's doing it.

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[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Wait a minute, so you guys talk about Piracy being an issue when thats not even why the Music industry is in complete shambles. Its the rise of the MP3 my friends that ruined the old structure, for better and worse.

Music still sells, why is it that Recovery is out performing Encore yet Relapse is not? If music is not met with the right expectations then people won't listen to it. Easy as that. People know what to expect from the Kesha's and Pink's and Miley's. Thats what they enjoy.

mexicangordo

Recovery isn't out preforming Encore. Recovery sold 4.32 million.

Encore has sold that much in its life time, Recovery hasn't been out for a year yet. Its out performing Encore so far.

"Nine months after its release, worldwide sales of the album stood at 11 million copies." wiki (lol)

Either way I don't see Recovery catching up to Encore. If it does that'd be amazingly impressive.

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#40 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with SuperSaiyanLink on this one. Piracy is utterly destroying the music industry right now. You do have a point though. The 5 year hiatus he took definitely had an impact on the sales of his last few records. During that time everyone forgot about Eminem. And there's no way that that didn't effect the sales just a bit.

KH-mixerX

Wait a minute, so you guys talk about Piracy being an issue when thats not even why the Music industry is in complete shambles. Its the rise of the MP3 my friends that ruined the old structure, for better and worse.

Music still sells, why is it that Recovery is out performing Encore yet Relapse is not? If music is not met with the right expectations then people won't listen to it. Easy as that. People know what to expect from the Kesha's and Pink's and Miley's. Thats what they enjoy.

Sure, MP3's have contributed to the destruction of the music industry, but I refuse to believe that it has been more damaging than piracy. I don't know anyone who actually buys their music anymore. Pirating music on the internet is as easy as using Google nowadays. And everyone's doing it.

A better question should be,"do you know a lot of people who listen to albums from start to finish?" I have tons of friends who love music and even I can say that I don't. And whats more important, the loss of sales of an album or the actual deprecation of what an album is? This is exactly where the music industry stands, relying on a singles race and actually depending on digital Download sales more so than record sales.

That to me is way more improtant than Piracy. People are going to always steal.

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#41 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]Recovery isn't out preforming Encore. Recovery sold 4.32 million.

SuperSaiyanLink

Encore has sold that much in its life time, Recovery hasn't been out for a year yet. Its out performing Encore so far.

"Nine months after its release, worldwide sales of the album stood at 11 million copies." wiki (lol)

Either way I don't see Recovery catching up to Encore. If it does that'd be amazingly impressive.

A pff, another mistake on my part (sorry its late)

But How did we end up switching sides? Wasn't I rooting for Encore while you were rooting for Recovery? :P

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I can't really think of anything off the top of my head. I mean, within a small sample group of around 18 people, none of my friends think Bruce Springsteen's "Darkness on the Edge of Town" is a good album. Most plead for me to change the album when I drive them around. I mean, it's not common driving music by any stretch, but "Streets of Fire", the title track and "Something in the Night" are definitely late night driving songs. :P But even when I lay it at home, my friends either ask me to turn it down(and I don't listen to music loud), or they put on ANY music, and blare it over mine to the point where I can't hear it(and I'm in front of my speakers). They tend to complain, saying "It's too slow", "His voice sucks", "He sounds like a hobo choking and writhing from cancer-related pain", "The lyrics are stupid, he's always driving somewhere, that's all that he sings about ever, and about how cool living on a hill is or something. Who cares." It's rather disheartening. Heck, even the Springsteen fans I know think it's among his worst albums, and say it pales in comparison to Born in the USA, The River, Born to Run, Tunnel of Love and all of his newer albums. It's pretty depressing. :( More depressing than "Nebraska", even.
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i F****n love adore. Smashing pumpkins is awesome.

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Black Sabbath- Dehumanizer. An unholy masterpiece of Heavy Metal. But it's ratings are BAD.

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i F****n love adore. Smashing pumpkins is awesome.

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Thats awesome, but in1998 it was one of the reasons why the band wen't down hill incredible fast. No one got it, not many liked it. Now tons of the fans love it buts its not 1998 anymore :(

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#46 Lockedge
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[QUOTE="Jonny_ramone"]

i F****n love adore. Smashing pumpkins is awesome.

mexicangordo

Thats awesome, but in1998 it was one of the reasons why the band wen't down hill incredible fast. No one got it, not many liked it. Now tons of the fans love it buts its not 1998 anymore :(

Adore was great...Machina was my issue. That album was too inconsistent, with too low of lows with less upside in the good tracks. :(
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#47 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="Jonny_ramone"]

i F****n love adore. Smashing pumpkins is awesome.

Lockedge

Thats awesome, but in1998 it was one of the reasons why the band wen't down hill incredible fast. No one got it, not many liked it. Now tons of the fans love it buts its not 1998 anymore :(

Adore was great...Machina was my issue. That album was too inconsistent, with too low of lows with less upside in the good tracks. :(

Machina was the side effect of Adore, Billy couldn't handle not being the "hot band" anymore. To this day I still don't get Machina. It had some great songs but your absolutely right, it was just very inconsistent. Though Machina ll had some great songs on it

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Any of the brokencyde albums [spoiler] NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME [/spoiler]
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Any of the brokencyde albums [spoiler] NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME [/spoiler] SeraphimGoddess

Word. One of the most creative and br00tal bands evar.

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Smashing Pumpkins's GISH and Pisces Iscariot