Alcohol shrinks your brain, even just a little

Marijuana is a poor substitute for alcohol. An alcohol high doesn't feel anything like a marijuana high.

And alcohol is awesome. If you don't like it, don't drink it.

i understand the argument that you're making, but personally, i'm most concerned about that second figure.

low exercise and poor diet = 365,000 deaths annually. scary.

health isn't a good argument for legalizing drugs. legalized drugs may put an increased strain on the health system because potentially more people will do them.

I'm for the legalization of most soft drugs, simply because making them illegal doesn't work on multiple levels. but the health argument is fairly easy to shoot down.

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

-starman-

Marijuana is a poor substitute for alcohol. An alcohol high doesn't feel anything like a marijuana high.

And alcohol is awesome. If you don't like it, don't drink it.

MrGeezer

you do realize you can get statistics to say pretty much anything you want them to

and

im for the legalization of every drug (i drink but thats it) the way i see it, its your body, you should have the right to trash it, its not the governments job to regulate what you smoke inhale inject eat drink or apply

I think "this is worse than that" is one of the silliest arguments you can make. Yes, a kick in the balls is worse than a kick to the stomache. But why even have the possibility for both when you can make do with one (or ideally none?)

Bio_Spark

I think "this is worse than that" is one of the silliest arguments you can make. Yes, a kick in the balls is worse than a kick to the stomache. But why even have the possibility for both when you can make do with one (or ideally none?)

Bio_Spark

[QUOTE="-starman-"]

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

br0kenrabbit

Well I like alcohol, and I dont even have a drink a day. Maybe drink once every few months. Maybe. But I can say when i am drunk i have the potential to act stupid. Same if im ultra tired though.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="-starman-"]

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

xaos

You know what I hate. How you Shroomers and stoners look down on us chemical drug users.swizz-the-gamer

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Marijuana is a poor substitute for alcohol. An alcohol high doesn't feel anything like a marijuana high.

And alcohol is awesome. If you don't like it, don't drink it.

br0kenrabbit

I don't care if people smoke pot or not, I just get annoyed when people are like "hey man, you ought to get high!" Or "pot is harmless, man! Smoke it up!" Or "why are you smoking tobacco? You need to start smoking WEED!"

I don't care if people smoke weed or not. I just don't like the hardcore potheads who are either always talking about how they smoke weed, or try to get other people to smoke weed. If I've ever complained about marijuana users, I would have been complaining about the ones who are complete idiots.

br0ken rabbit, you type similarly to DS, so you must be his alt. :roll:

I learned that today. Everyone who types like someone else, is an alt of that person. There's like, 12 people here at most.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]You know what I hate. How you Shroomers and stoners look down on us chemical drug users.br0kenrabbit

0 deaths from marijuana? And they say its bad for you? :roll:_Brennan_

dont start smoking TEH MARIJUANAS or YOU could become one of those 0 deaths!!!!!!!!!!!

marijuana... STILL A THREAT!

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="-starman-"]

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]You know what I hate. How you Shroomers and stoners look down on us chemical drug users.swizz-the-gamer

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="-starman-"]

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

xaos

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="-starman-"]

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]You know what I hate. How you Shroomers and stoners look down on us chemical drug users.br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="-starman-"]

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

xaos

You know what I hate. How you Shroomers and stoners look down on us chemical drug users.swizz-the-gamer

I'm lashing out against the hypocrisy. Read the first post again.br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="-starman-"]

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]You know what I hate. How you Shroomers and stoners look down on us chemical drug users.Jandurin

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]You know what I hate. How you Shroomers and stoners look down on us chemical drug users.swizz-the-gamer

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]I'm lashing out against the hypocrisy. Read the first post again.xaos

[QUOTE="-starman-"]

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]You know what I hate. How you Shroomers and stoners look down on us chemical drug users.br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="Bio_Spark"]

I think "this is worse than that" is one of the silliest arguments you can make. Yes, a kick in the balls is worse than a kick to the stomache. But why even have the possibility for both when you can make do with one (or ideally none?)

Bio_Spark

Because:

A) It's been in common use in the country for much longer than other substances, and long before we had a good understanding of the risks and health problems other than drunkeness. Hell, we still thought cigarettes were okay until the the late 60s.

B) We still don't have much research on illegal drugs, relatively speaking. Marijuana in particular is a schedule I drug (it really shouldn't be) so research is extremely restricted.

[QUOTE="-starman-"]

Is there a direct link between brain size and either intelligence or mental illness?

br0kenrabbit

the article is somewhat ambiguous about it, though. they don't really say that if the shrinkage is permanent, or if the effects compound, just that drinkers have less mass than non-drinkers. does that mean they have had a drink within the week? month? year?

either way, apparently the difference isn't much.

from the article:

"We're talking very small differences here," says Dr. Garbutt, who was not involved in the study. "We're not seeing 10 to 20 percent shrinkage."

However, he says, reduction in brain mass is an interesting finding. "But we have a long way to go to figure out the implications of it."

it sounds like one of those articles about living below power lines causing cancer. sure there may be an increased risk, but it's slight and everything you do has an impact on your health one way or another, so worrying about the little things is a waste of time.

worrying can cause cancer, too, you know.

LINK

eh, what can you do?

And we have different criteria because the Drug Schedules were established by old men who don't really know much, and wanted to try outlaw them based on how widely used they are, instead of real danger.

Bio_Spark

This thread makes me reminiscent.Jandurin

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="Bio_Spark"]

And we have different criteria because the Drug Schedules were established by old men who don't really know much, and wanted to try outlaw them based on how widely used they are, instead of real danger.

Bio_Spark

Their successors, unfortunately. Who are equally old and only marginally more knowledgeable.