Am I the only one who hates "graphic novels"?

Graphic novels.

No, they are "comic books".

And yes, I realize that after about 1930 or so, comic books generally tended to stop being comic. Which makes "comic books" a misnomer too.

But they've been "comics" for WAY longer than you've been alive. As an example, the "DC" in DC Comics stands for "DEtective Comics". That was a LONG freaking time ago. And we still refer to these things as "comic books" regardless of if they are serious or comical. You don't walk into the graphic novel store and ask them if they have any comic books in stock, you walk into the comic book store and look for "graphic novels".

They're still comic books. Just comic books. They might be really GOOD comic books, but can we please do away with this whole "graphic novel" thing?

You don't read "graphic novels". You read comic books. Just admit it, and stop being snooty. That's like Wendy's saying that they don't sell fast food, but that they're better than fast food. Screw that. IT IS STILL FAST FOOD. Watchmen is still a comic book. Is that somehow BAD?

Really..."graphic novel" is a load of crap. That's an expression for people who think that comic books are stupid, but who want to read comic books without admitting to being stupid by reading comic books. "NO! I am NOT reading a comic book! I am reading a GRAPHIC NOVEL!"

Yeah, what the hell-ever. You're reading a comic book. Are you that insecure that you have to make up names for what you're doing? They're comic books. Why can't you admit that you like comic books? Why can't you admit that some comic books are really ****ing good?

"Yeah, I'm reading Watchmen. Yeah, it's a comic book. Yeah, I like reading comic books. And if you don't like that, you can go to hell?" How hard was that? It's comic books, you like comic books, and if someone has a problem with that, then **** 'em. Why try to make your comic-book reading more acceptable in their eyes by referring to them as "graphic novels"?

Yeah, I don't play videogames either. I engage in "intereactive media". Yeah, I don't look at porn. I "utilize autoerotic aids".

Whatever, man. Porn is porn, videogames are videogames, and comic books are freaking comic books. So can we PLEASE stop calling them "graphic novels"? IT'S A DAMN COMIC BOOK.

Anyway, am I the only one who gets the urge to punch a puppy every time someone refers to comic books as "graphic novels"?

I don't even let it bother me. Comic books, graphic novels, it's pretty much the same thing.

Huh... what did you say? I was too busy utilizing an autoerotic aid.

Comic Book = part of a story or a short one

Graphic Novel = Usually a whole story.

Well they are basically the same type of thing. But graphic novels are usually a whole story instead of part of a story.

But they are the same type of things. They are comics , but are different from other comics in the story and length.

I read comics. Graphic novels are comics. But I think that there is a distinction between them and other comics. The distiction is just in terms of the story it tells and not the fact that they are both comics.

I thought graphic novels were a whole story. :?

I thought graphic novels were a whole story. :?

The_Ish

All pennies are coins but not all coins are pennies.

All graphic novels are comic books but not all comic books are graphic novels.

Comics are meant to mean something. Today they are either a glorified video game reference on Penny Arcade or a PoS peice of glorified propaganda like-minded from the Cold War era to beat the collective chest of america's youth against "undesirables". Oh yeah, I went there.hongkingkong

It does annoy me when people refuse to call "graphic novels" comics. They are comics.

But the term graphic novel does refer to a distinct type of comic.

Kind of like a series and a miniseries. They are both television programs , but there is a clear difference in them.

Are by any chance Maddox?

I think it's a goofy distinction to try to draw. It feels like a desperate grab for approval. "Oh no, I don't read comic books' I read graphic novels!" Just read the damn comics :)xaos

People who do that make me want to stab a puppy.

[QUOTE="xaos"]I think it's a goofy distinction to try to draw. It feels like a desperate grab for approval. "Oh no, I don't read comic books' I read graphic novels!" Just read the damn comics :)dave123321

People who do that make me want to stab a puppy.

Lol. So violent....

I've never heard of anyone off the internet call manga a graphic novel, and if I ever do hear that, I will want to stab a puppy.

Where does manga fit in here.
It's technically a comic book, just a really thick, heavy, big comic book.

But I thought we use manga to determine that it's Japanese in origin or inspired by Japanese art direction.

Xaos, you like comics, do you read manga at all?

Where do they fit in?

Poor puppies. They are getting stabbed and killed for no reason :(

I've never heard of anyone off the internet call manga a graphic novel, and if I ever do hear that, I will want to stab a puppy.

Where does manga fit in here.
It's technically a comic book, just a really thick, heavy, big comic book.

But I thought we use manga to determine that it's Japanese in origin or inspired by Japanese art direction.

Xaos, you like comics, do you read manga at all?

Where do they fit in?

-TheSecondSign-

Graphic novels.

No, they are "comic books".

And yes, I realize that after about 1930 or so, comic books generally tended to stop being comic. Which makes "comic books" a misnomer too.

But they've been "comics" for WAY longer than you've been alive. As an example, the "DC" in DC Comics stands for "DEtective Comics". That was a LONG freaking time ago. And we still refer to these things as "comic books" regardless of if they are serious or comical. You don't walk into the graphic novel store and ask them if they have any comic books in stock, you walk into the comic book store and look for "graphic novels".

They're still comic books. Just comic books. They might be really GOOD comic books, but can we please do away with this whole "graphic novel" thing?

You don't read "graphic novels". You read comic books. Just admit it, and stop being snooty. That's like Wendy's saying that they don't sell fast food, but that they're better than fast food. Screw that. IT IS STILL FAST FOOD. Watchmen is still a comic book. Is that somehow BAD?

Really..."graphic novel" is a load of crap. That's an expression for people who think that comic books are stupid, but who want to read comic books without admitting to being stupid by reading comic books. "NO! I am NOT reading a comic book! I am reading a GRAPHIC NOVEL!"

Yeah, what the hell-ever. You're reading a comic book. Are you that insecure that you have to make up names for what you're doing? They're comic books. Why can't you admit that you like comic books? Why can't you admit that some comic books are really ****ing good?

"Yeah, I'm reading Watchmen. Yeah, it's a comic book. Yeah, I like reading comic books. And if you don't like that, you can go to hell?" How hard was that? It's comic books, you like comic books, and if someone has a problem with that, then **** 'em. Why try to make your comic-book reading more acceptable in their eyes by referring to them as "graphic novels"?

Yeah, I don't play videogames either. I engage in "intereactive media". Yeah, I don't look at porn. I "utilize autoerotic aids".

Whatever, man. Porn is porn, videogames are videogames, and comic books are freaking comic books. So can we PLEASE stop calling them "graphic novels"? IT'S A DAMN COMIC BOOK.

Anyway, am I the only one who gets the urge to punch a puppy every time someone refers to comic books as "graphic novels"?

MrGeezer

Yeeeaaahhhh....except that there's a difference between the two formats, and that's that.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Graphic novels.

No, they are "comic books".

And yes, I realize that after about 1930 or so, comic books generally tended to stop being comic. Which makes "comic books" a misnomer too.

But they've been "comics" for WAY longer than you've been alive. As an example, the "DC" in DC Comics stands for "DEtective Comics". That was a LONG freaking time ago. And we still refer to these things as "comic books" regardless of if they are serious or comical. You don't walk into the graphic novel store and ask them if they have any comic books in stock, you walk into the comic book store and look for "graphic novels".

They're still comic books. Just comic books. They might be really GOOD comic books, but can we please do away with this whole "graphic novel" thing?

You don't read "graphic novels". You read comic books. Just admit it, and stop being snooty. That's like Wendy's saying that they don't sell fast food, but that they're better than fast food. Screw that. IT IS STILL FAST FOOD. Watchmen is still a comic book. Is that somehow BAD?

Really..."graphic novel" is a load of crap. That's an expression for people who think that comic books are stupid, but who want to read comic books without admitting to being stupid by reading comic books. "NO! I am NOT reading a comic book! I am reading a GRAPHIC NOVEL!"

Yeah, what the hell-ever. You're reading a comic book. Are you that insecure that you have to make up names for what you're doing? They're comic books. Why can't you admit that you like comic books? Why can't you admit that some comic books are really ****ing good?

"Yeah, I'm reading Watchmen. Yeah, it's a comic book. Yeah, I like reading comic books. And if you don't like that, you can go to hell?" How hard was that? It's comic books, you like comic books, and if someone has a problem with that, then **** 'em. Why try to make your comic-book reading more acceptable in their eyes by referring to them as "graphic novels"?

Yeah, I don't play videogames either. I engage in "intereactive media". Yeah, I don't look at porn. I "utilize autoerotic aids".

Whatever, man. Porn is porn, videogames are videogames, and comic books are freaking comic books. So can we PLEASE stop calling them "graphic novels"? IT'S A DAMN COMIC BOOK.

Anyway, am I the only one who gets the urge to punch a puppy every time someone refers to comic books as "graphic novels"?

DoctorBedlam

Yeeeaaahhhh....except that there's a difference between the two formats, and that's that.

Comic books are a single issue of a book. For example X-Men #567 or something, about 20-30 pages long and a single part of a story arc.

Graphic Novels are an entire storyline from a comic book. For example the Return of the King arc encompases Ultimate X-men #34-40 or whatever. It is usally paperback made of card instead of paper for the ocvers of the book, and often hardcover.

What is the difference?xaos

I do not think of comics and graphic novels as two different things. Graphic novels are comics. But I think that they are different from other comics due to the length and that they are usually whole stories instead of parts of a large story. Graphic novels are a type of comic. So when people call something a graphic novel I assume that they are referring to something like Watchmen , The Long Halloween , Dark Knight Returns , or something like that.

I do not get a sense that people are calling them graphic novels because they think they are too good for comics. I think it is just easier to refer to them that way , because they are a distinct type of comic.

Those that refuse to call graphic novels comics though , make me want to stab a puppy in the eyes.

I think anime, comic books, and graphic novels are for children. I get annoyed when I see people at my high school all into anime and into japan and stuff. Grow up.moptopskate

I think Aesop Rock is for children. Grow up.

[QUOTE="moptopskate"]I think anime, comic books, and graphic novels are for children. I get annoyed when I see people at my high school all into anime and into japan and stuff. Grow up.DoctorBedlam

I think Aesop Rock is for children. Grow up.

exactly what a little child would say.

[QUOTE="DoctorBedlam"]

[QUOTE="moptopskate"]I think anime, comic books, and graphic novels are for children. I get annoyed when I see people at my high school all into anime and into japan and stuff. Grow up.moptopskate

I think Aesop Rock is for children. Grow up.

exactly what a little child would say.

Oh, sorry let me get a deviantart account and then say it like Aesop Rock would say it. Let's see now:

"yo, transformers gone off like swarmers i make my voice sound retarded so that there's emphasis on your ear warmers yo we lime lighters i will never rap with krs-one because i talk about nonsense over el-p beats that are actually cool but i suck so the songs suck yo"

[QUOTE="moptopskate"][QUOTE="DoctorBedlam"]

[QUOTE="moptopskate"]I think anime, comic books, and graphic novels are for children. I get annoyed when I see people at my high school all into anime and into japan and stuff. Grow up.DoctorBedlam

I think Aesop Rock is for children. Grow up.

exactly what a little child would say.

Oh, sorry let me get a deviantart account and then say it like Aesop Rock would say it. Let's see now:

"yo, transformers gone off like swarmers i make my voice sound retarded so that there's emphasis on your ear warmers yo we lime lighters i will never rap with krs-one because i talk about nonsense over el-p beats that are actually cool but i suck so the songs suck yo"

You dont make sense.

Graphic novels.

No, they are "comic books".

And yes, I realize that after about 1930 or so, comic books generally tended to stop being comic. Which makes "comic books" a misnomer too.

But they've been "comics" for WAY longer than you've been alive. As an example, the "DC" in DC Comics stands for "DEtective Comics". That was a LONG freaking time ago. And we still refer to these things as "comic books" regardless of if they are serious or comical. You don't walk into the graphic novel store and ask them if they have any comic books in stock, you walk into the comic book store and look for "graphic novels".

They're still comic books. Just comic books. They might be really GOOD comic books, but can we please do away with this whole "graphic novel" thing?

You don't read "graphic novels". You read comic books. Just admit it, and stop being snooty. That's like Wendy's saying that they don't sell fast food, but that they're better than fast food. Screw that. IT IS STILL FAST FOOD. Watchmen is still a comic book. Is that somehow BAD?

Really..."graphic novel" is a load of crap. That's an expression for people who think that comic books are stupid, but who want to read comic books without admitting to being stupid by reading comic books. "NO! I am NOT reading a comic book! I am reading a GRAPHIC NOVEL!"

Yeah, what the hell-ever. You're reading a comic book. Are you that insecure that you have to make up names for what you're doing? They're comic books. Why can't you admit that you like comic books? Why can't you admit that some comic books are really ****ing good?

"Yeah, I'm reading Watchmen. Yeah, it's a comic book. Yeah, I like reading comic books. And if you don't like that, you can go to hell?" How hard was that? It's comic books, you like comic books, and if someone has a problem with that, then **** 'em. Why try to make your comic-book reading more acceptable in their eyes by referring to them as "graphic novels"?

Yeah, I don't play videogames either. I engage in "intereactive media". Yeah, I don't look at porn. I "utilize autoerotic aids".

Whatever, man. Porn is porn, videogames are videogames, and comic books are freaking comic books. So can we PLEASE stop calling them "graphic novels"? IT'S A DAMN COMIC BOOK.

Anyway, am I the only one who gets the urge to punch a puppy every time someone refers to comic books as "graphic novels"?

MrGeezer

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Graphic novels.

No, they are "comic books".

And yes, I realize that after about 1930 or so, comic books generally tended to stop being comic. Which makes "comic books" a misnomer too.

But they've been "comics" for WAY longer than you've been alive. As an example, the "DC" in DC Comics stands for "DEtective Comics". That was a LONG freaking time ago. And we still refer to these things as "comic books" regardless of if they are serious or comical. You don't walk into the graphic novel store and ask them if they have any comic books in stock, you walk into the comic book store and look for "graphic novels".

They're still comic books. Just comic books. They might be really GOOD comic books, but can we please do away with this whole "graphic novel" thing?

You don't read "graphic novels". You read comic books. Just admit it, and stop being snooty. That's like Wendy's saying that they don't sell fast food, but that they're better than fast food. Screw that. IT IS STILL FAST FOOD. Watchmen is still a comic book. Is that somehow BAD?

Really..."graphic novel" is a load of crap. That's an expression for people who think that comic books are stupid, but who want to read comic books without admitting to being stupid by reading comic books. "NO! I am NOT reading a comic book! I am reading a GRAPHIC NOVEL!"

Yeah, what the hell-ever. You're reading a comic book. Are you that insecure that you have to make up names for what you're doing? They're comic books. Why can't you admit that you like comic books? Why can't you admit that some comic books are really ****ing good?

"Yeah, I'm reading Watchmen. Yeah, it's a comic book. Yeah, I like reading comic books. And if you don't like that, you can go to hell?" How hard was that? It's comic books, you like comic books, and if someone has a problem with that, then **** 'em. Why try to make your comic-book reading more acceptable in their eyes by referring to them as "graphic novels"?

Yeah, I don't play videogames either. I engage in "intereactive media". Yeah, I don't look at porn. I "utilize autoerotic aids".

Whatever, man. Porn is porn, videogames are videogames, and comic books are freaking comic books. So can we PLEASE stop calling them "graphic novels"? IT'S A DAMN COMIC BOOK.

Anyway, am I the only one who gets the urge to punch a puppy every time someone refers to comic books as "graphic novels"?

SupaBaddy20

Comics does not sound childish to me. Do not make me stab a puppy.

I think anime, comic books, and graphic novels are for children. I get annoyed when I see people at my high school all into anime and into japan and stuff. Grow up.moptopskate

[QUOTE="SupaBaddy20"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Graphic novels.

No, they are "comic books".

And yes, I realize that after about 1930 or so, comic books generally tended to stop being comic. Which makes "comic books" a misnomer too.

But they've been "comics" for WAY longer than you've been alive. As an example, the "DC" in DC Comics stands for "DEtective Comics". That was a LONG freaking time ago. And we still refer to these things as "comic books" regardless of if they are serious or comical. You don't walk into the graphic novel store and ask them if they have any comic books in stock, you walk into the comic book store and look for "graphic novels".

They're still comic books. Just comic books. They might be really GOOD comic books, but can we please do away with this whole "graphic novel" thing?

You don't read "graphic novels". You read comic books. Just admit it, and stop being snooty. That's like Wendy's saying that they don't sell fast food, but that they're better than fast food. Screw that. IT IS STILL FAST FOOD. Watchmen is still a comic book. Is that somehow BAD?

Really..."graphic novel" is a load of crap. That's an expression for people who think that comic books are stupid, but who want to read comic books without admitting to being stupid by reading comic books. "NO! I am NOT reading a comic book! I am reading a GRAPHIC NOVEL!"

Yeah, what the hell-ever. You're reading a comic book. Are you that insecure that you have to make up names for what you're doing? They're comic books. Why can't you admit that you like comic books? Why can't you admit that some comic books are really ****ing good?

"Yeah, I'm reading Watchmen. Yeah, it's a comic book. Yeah, I like reading comic books. And if you don't like that, you can go to hell?" How hard was that? It's comic books, you like comic books, and if someone has a problem with that, then **** 'em. Why try to make your comic-book reading more acceptable in their eyes by referring to them as "graphic novels"?

Yeah, I don't play videogames either. I engage in "intereactive media". Yeah, I don't look at porn. I "utilize autoerotic aids".

Whatever, man. Porn is porn, videogames are videogames, and comic books are freaking comic books. So can we PLEASE stop calling them "graphic novels"? IT'S A DAMN COMIC BOOK.

Anyway, am I the only one who gets the urge to punch a puppy every time someone refers to comic books as "graphic novels"?

dave123321

Comics does not sound childish to me. Do not make me stab a puppy.

Who said watchin anime and manga is for children?? Cus I'll show ya some that arent sutible for even TEENS to watch or read. XD SupaBaddy20