Am I the only person who believes Micheal Bay should stop making films?

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#1 ParonoiaAgent
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He's had enough chances to improve, yet he just CAN'T. I mean, I want more than just "hot" women,things that go boom, and plot holes( which I don't want). I,as I hope you do, want DEPTH, ACTING, and a PLOT(a GOOD one).

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#2 edthetinker
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I agree with you.
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#3 Oleg_Huzwog
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I'd be a hypocrite if I shared your belief. Anyone know when Transformers 2 comes out on DVD?

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#4 Mr_Manikin52
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Seriously, Bay needs to be replaced by JJ Abrams. JJ would of made the Transformers' plot far better.

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#5 chessmaster1989
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I don't really care. I've just stopped watching his movies.

*waits for sammy to come in and start flaming Michael Bay... :|*

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#6 Second_Rook
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Well that's a long running joke on South Park so no, also, I don't think he should, he's making a forune for himself and his studio.

Also why do all you people who hate him keep supporting him? I saw not even one entire movie by him and that was it for me.

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#7 LosDaddie
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I mean, I want more than just "hot" women,things that go boom, and plot holes( which I don't want). ParonoiaAgent

Here's asolution: DON'T WATCH MICHAEL BAY MOVIES

Simple, huh?

He doesn't need to stop making movies.

Personally, I know what I'm getting into when I'm going to watch an M.Bay movie and loved both Transformer movies.

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#8 Omni-Slash
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no...but that doesn't make you any less wrong.....
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#9 super_mario_128
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He hires sexy actors, therefore I have no problem with his shoddy movies.
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#10 barcx17
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The only one I enjoyed was The Rock, and that was decent. He's also producing a remake of A Nightmare on Elm Street... :cry:

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#11 tomo90
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I don't think he should stop. I just think you should stay away from his movies in the future. I know what I'm getting myself in for when I watch a Michael Bay movie.

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#12 ParonoiaAgent
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I agree with you.edthetinker

Thanks for being the only one to do so.....

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#13 sammyjenkis898
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I don't really care. I've just stopped watching his movies.

*waits for sammy to come in and start flaming Michael Bay... :|*

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You act like I'm the only one that hates him.
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#14 FragStains
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I don't understand the fascination people have with stopping successful people from doing things...
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#15 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I don't really care. I've just stopped watching his movies.

*waits for sammy to come in and start flaming Michael Bay... :|*

sammyjenkis898

You act like I'm the only one that hates him.

No, you just seem to hate him more than most :P.

Honestly, people, just don't watch his movies. It's as simple as that.

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#16 sammyjenkis898
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No, you just seem to hate him more than most :P.

Honestly, people, just don't watch his movies. It's as simple as that.

chessmaster1989

Obviously not. I can think of numerous people that dislike him more than I do. Hell, there are websites that are dedicated to the hate of Michael Bay..

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#17 duxup
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How can you think you might be alone? You know what the sad thing is? His early films weren't total garbage, not Shakespeare, but not garbage.
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#18 ParonoiaAgent
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How can you think you might be alone? You know what the sad thing is? His early films weren't total garbage, not Shakespeare, but not garbage.duxup

They were OK but after Bad Boys, it all went downhill..

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#19 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

No, you just seem to hate him more than most :P.

Honestly, people, just don't watch his movies. It's as simple as that.

sammyjenkis898

Obviously not. I can think of numerous people that dislike him more than I do. Hell, there are websites that are dedicated to the hate of Michael Bay..

Lol nice :P

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#20 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"]How can you think you might be alone? You know what the sad thing is? His early films weren't total garbage, not Shakespeare, but not garbage.ParonoiaAgent

They were OK but after Bad Boys, it all went downhill..

Hey, "OK" is high praise for a Bay film...
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#21 TheShadowLord07
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I don't think he should stop. I just think you should stay away from his movies in the future. I know what I'm getting myself in for when I watch a Michael Bay movie.

tomo90

argee with you 100%

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#22 Serraph105
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He's had enough chances to improve, yet he just CAN'T. I mean, I want more than just "hot" women,things that go boom, and plot holes( which I don't want). I,as I hope you do, want DEPTH, ACTING, and a PLOT(a GOOD one).

ParonoiaAgent
nah he has made enough good movies to where this doesnt get my vote. I mean he made Transformers, The Rock, and Independance Day all of which I enjoyed so no let him keep making movies.
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#23 Nerd_Man
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I don't really care. I've just stopped watching his movies.

*waits for sammy to come in and start flaming Michael Bay... :|*

sammyjenkis898

You act like I'm the only one that hates him.

*Nerd_Man enters this thread*

What did I miss?

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nah he has made enough good movies to where this doesnt get my vote. I mean he made Transformers, The Rock, and Independance Day all of which I enjoyed so no let him keep making movies.Serraph105

Independence Day was done by Roland Emmerich, not Bay.

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#25 barcx17
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[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

He's had enough chances to improve, yet he just CAN'T. I mean, I want more than just "hot" women,things that go boom, and plot holes( which I don't want). I,as I hope you do, want DEPTH, ACTING, and a PLOT(a GOOD one).

Serraph105

nah he has made enough good movies to where this doesnt get my vote. I mean he made Transformers, The Rock, and Independence Day all of which I enjoyed so no let him keep making movies.

Roland Emmerich directed Independence Day.

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#26 ParonoiaAgent
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[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

He's had enough chances to improve, yet he just CAN'T. I mean, I want more than just "hot" women,things that go boom, and plot holes( which I don't want). I,as I hope you do, want DEPTH, ACTING, and a PLOT(a GOOD one).

Serraph105

nah he has made enough good movies to where this doesnt get my vote. I mean he made Transformers, The Rock, and Independance Day all of which I enjoyed so no let him keep making movies.

Transformers??? You must have a questionable taste in movies.

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I seriously doubt he'll screw this one up:
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#28 FragStains
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

He's had enough chances to improve, yet he just CAN'T. I mean, I want more than just "hot" women,things that go boom, and plot holes( which I don't want). I,as I hope you do, want DEPTH, ACTING, and a PLOT(a GOOD one).

ParonoiaAgent

nah he has made enough good movies to where this doesnt get my vote. I mean he made Transformers, The Rock, and Independance Day all of which I enjoyed so no let him keep making movies.

Transformers??? You must have a questionable taste in movies.

I thought going into Transformers that it was going to be a shoe-in for Best Picture Academy Award. :roll: You don't expect Doom to have deep gameplay, and you don't expect Bay films to be deep. It's called having accurate expectations.
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#29 SolidSnake35
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He can do what he wants. If people stop watching what he makes, you might get your wish but until then...
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#30 Nerd_Man
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I seriously doubt he'll screw this one up:  Wilfred_Owen

Thanks, you just ruined my lunch appetite.

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#31 ParonoiaAgent
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He can do what he wants. If people stop watching what he makes, you might get your wish but until then...SolidSnake35

Unfortunately everyone flocks to see films FULL of plot holes

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#32 FragStains
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]He can do what he wants. If people stop watching what he makes, you might get your wish but until then...ParonoiaAgent

Unfortunately everyone flocks to see films FULL of plot holes

If a tree falls in the forest, and you aren't around to see it or hear it, did it really fall?
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#33 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]He can do what he wants. If people stop watching what he makes, you might get your wish but until then...FragStains

Unfortunately everyone flocks to see films FULL of plot holes

If a tree falls in the forest, and you aren't around to see it or hear it, did it really fall?

Is the tree accompanied by a heavy ad campaign?

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#34 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="barcx17"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"] oh my bad[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

He's had enough chances to improve, yet he just CAN'T. I mean, I want more than just "hot" women,things that go boom, and plot holes( which I don't want). I,as I hope you do, want DEPTH, ACTING, and a PLOT(a GOOD one).

nah he has made enough good movies to where this doesnt get my vote. I mean he made Transformers, The Rock, and Independance Day all of which I enjoyed so no let him keep making movies.

Transformers??? You must have a questionable taste in movies.

not really it had great visuals and action, its humor was good and the movie moved along at quite a fast clip. Sure it wasn't a deep story, but it didn't make me stop and go wtf at any point and whats more I don't need a deep story every time go watch a movie sometimes I just want to go have fun.
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#35 Chris_Williams
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he needs to stop directing films

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#36 ParonoiaAgent
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[QUOTE="barcx17"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] nah he has made enough good movies to where this doesnt get my vote. I mean he made Transformers, The Rock, and Independance Day all of which I enjoyed so no let him keep making movies.Serraph105

Transformers??? You must have a questionable taste in movies.

not really it had great visuals and action, its humor was good and the movie moved along at quite a fast clip. Sure it wasn't a deep story, but it didn't make me stop and go wtf at any point and whats more I don't need a deep story every time go watch a movie sometimes I just want to go have fun.

Y'know if you ask me, most of the humor in T2 was racially insensitive, IMO

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I don't understand the fascination people have with stopping successful people from doing things...FragStains

It depends on your definition of successful. To me success is measured by making quality products, which is why I hate directors who make careers out of so-called summer blockbusters with big explosions, frenzied action, hot women, and like others have said a total lack of plot and character development. If success is measured simply by how much money you make then I guess some of the most talented filmakers are losers. Like others have said, though, you can just not see their movies. I resolved never to see an Abrams' pic after the crapfest that was Cloverfield and I haven't regretted it. The thing that pisses me off is not that they continue to make money, it's that people act as if they're geniuses for making what amounts to a CGI, 90210 inspired, glitzfest. ZOMG, he took CGI robots and had them fight for an hour and a half, he's the next Scorcese! As long as people can just recognize films for what they are and give proper credit to filmakers who spend a lot of time trying to create a real vision I'll be happy.

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#38 ParonoiaAgent
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[QUOTE="FragStains"]I don't understand the fascination people have with stopping successful people from doing things...theone86

It depends on your definition of successful. To me success is measured by making quality products, which is why I hate directors who make careers out of so-called summer blockbusters with big explosions, frenzied action, hot women, and like others have said a total lack of plot and character development. If success is measured simply by how much money you make then I guess some of the most talented filmakers are losers. Like others have said, though, you can just not see their movies. I resolved never to see an Abrams' pic after the crapfest that was Cloverfield and I haven't regretted it. The thing that pisses me off is not that they continue to make money, it's that people act as if they're geniuses for making what amounts to a CGI, 90210 inspired, glitzfest. ZOMG, he took CGI robots and had them fight for an hour and a half, he's the next Scorcese! As long as people can just recognize films for what they are and give proper credit to filmakers who spend a lot of time trying to create a real vision I'll be happy.

I agree.

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#39 The_Game21x
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Meh, I know what to expect when I watch a Michael Bay film.

Whenever I go to see one, I simply turn my brain off, lean back with my popcorn and watch the explosions happen.

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#40 ZookGuy
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I don't really care. I've just stopped watching his movies.

*waits for sammy to come in and start flaming Michael Bay... :|*

chessmaster1989

You act like I'm the only one that hates him.

No, you just seem to hate him more than most :P.

Honestly, people, just don't watch his movies. It's as simple as that.

But... but... than what film can I see already having preconceived opinion before the trailers even start???
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#41 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="barcx17"]

Transformers??? You must have a questionable taste in movies.

ParonoiaAgent

not really it had great visuals and action, its humor was good and the movie moved along at quite a fast clip. Sure it wasn't a deep story, but it didn't make me stop and go wtf at any point and whats more I don't need a deep story every time go watch a movie sometimes I just want to go have fun.

Y'know if you ask me, most of the humor in T2 was racially insensitive, IMO

oh I haven't seen T2 just the first one. It's still on my to dolist though. Also try to remember if it is meant to be humorous it is not meant to be taken seriously in the first place which is why I am ok with racial humor.

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#42 FragStains
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[QUOTE="FragStains"]I don't understand the fascination people have with stopping successful people from doing things...theone86

It depends on your definition of successful. To me success is measured by making quality products, which is why I hate directors who make careers out of so-called summer blockbusters with big explosions, frenzied action, hot women, and like others have said a total lack of plot and character development. If success is measured simply by how much money you make then I guess some of the most talented filmakers are losers. Like others have said, though, you can just not see their movies. I resolved never to see an Abrams' pic after the crapfest that was Cloverfield and I haven't regretted it. The thing that pisses me off is not that they continue to make money, it's that people act as if they're geniuses for making what amounts to a CGI, 90210 inspired, glitzfest. ZOMG, he took CGI robots and had them fight for an hour and a half, he's the next Scorcese! As long as people can just recognize films for what they are and give proper credit to filmakers who spend a lot of time trying to create a real vision I'll be happy.

Ah...you see then, why I used the word successful, not classically skilled. If you can make a living selling hamburgers made from tofu, I'd call you successful. But you aren't skilled at making hamburgers. There's a market for almost everything out there. He is adept at exploiting the market of 'the summer blockbuster' and has been successful at that. Why he should stop making films because YOU don't like them, is what I don't understand. In my opinion, success is not measured in the quality of a commodity, but only in the ability to improve yourself with that commodity.
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You certainly are not the only person.

Anyone who willingly makes derivative films full of loud explosions, a near pornographic film $tyle, a juvenile view of women that boarders on misogyny, and then walks off into the bank with paychecks while stroking his greying stubble with a Cheshire cat style grin, knowing that he can do it all again no matter how many people hate him, deserves all the hate they receive.

And he reads comments like this from his gold bath tub, chuckling to himself.

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He needs his movie making license removed -.-
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[QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"]I seriously doubt he'll screw this one up:

I don't know, I think he might replace all the deaths with explosions.
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#46 ParonoiaAgent
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You certainly are not the only person.

Anyone who willingly makes derivative films full of loud explosions, a near pornographic film $tyle, a juvenile view of women that boarders on misogyny, and then walks off into the bank with paychecks while stroking his greying stubble with a Cheshire cat style grin, knowing that he can do it all again no matter how many people hate him, deserves all the hate they receive.

And he reads comments like this from his gold bath tub, chuckling to himself.

Samwel_X

Yet Diablo Cody must use a REGULAR bath tub.

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#47 Silent-Hal
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I wish Michael Bay would stop making Transformers films at least. He seems to be on a mission to destroy my childhood memories.
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#48 duxup
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Maybe we could just settle for him doing movies based on toys or something?

As long as he doesn't go after something like Pearl Harbor again.

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#49 FragStains
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I didn't know OT was populated by so many virtuous users brimming with integrity. If you can make a living putting out products that are horrible, the more power to you. The films he makes are not mandatory to see, they don't cost more to see than other films, and many people find them enjoyable and entertaining. Should we ban musical artists, videogame developers, food manufacturers, and authors from cashing in on the stupidity and banality of common society?

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#50 Oleg_Huzwog
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I wish Michael Bay would stop making Transformers films at least. He seems to be on a mission to destroy my childhood memories. Silent-Hal

Now that is a sentiment I do not understand. What childhood memories are there to ruin? It was a cartoon of mediocre quality created for the sole purpose of selling toys.