Am I the only person who believes Micheal Bay should stop making films?

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#51 LJS9502_basic
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Eh if someone wants to back him with money then that is their decision. If you don't like his movies....don't watch them. It's that simple....

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#52 Travo_basic
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[QUOTE="Samwel_X"]

You certainly are not the only person.

Anyone who willingly makes derivative films full of loud explosions, a near pornographic film $tyle, a juvenile view of women that boarders on misogyny, and then walks off into the bank with paychecks while stroking his greying stubble with a Cheshire cat style grin, knowing that he can do it all again no matter how many people hate him, deserves all the hate they receive.

And he reads comments like this from his gold bath tub, chuckling to himself.

Doesn't he make the same film over and over again? This time with robots.
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#53 ParonoiaAgent
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I didn't know OT was populated by so many virtuous users brimming with integrity. If you can make a living putting out products that are horrible, the more power to you. The films he makes are not mandatory to see, they don't cost more to see than other films, and many people find them enjoyable and entertaining. Should we ban musical artists, videogame developers, food manufacturers, and authors from cashing in on the stupidity and banality of common society?

FragStains

Maybe I mean.. I'm hoping for the banning of Halo soooon(PLEASE...)

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#54 alexnollent
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Dont worry, i agree!

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#55 Samwel_X
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Doesn't he make the same film over and over again? This time with robots.Travo_basic

Or this time with WW2.

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#56 ParonoiaAgent
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[QUOTE="Travo_basic"]Doesn't he make the same film over and over again? This time with robots.Samwel_X

Or this time with WW2.

Well, his films are like nukes on North American cinema..

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#57 vidplayer8
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Just because his films aren't even half the caliber of award-winning movies or even just good movies doesn't mean that they don't have a place. These types of movies are good for the economy.

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#59 ParonoiaAgent
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

I mean, I want more than just "hot" women,things that go boom, and plot holes( which I don't want). dreDREb13

Here's asolution: DON'T WATCH MICHAEL BAY MOVIES

Simple, huh?

He doesn't need to stop making movies.

Personally, I know what I'm getting into when I'm going to watch an M.Bay movie and loved both Transformer movies.

The reason people want him to stop is because it's a disgrace to cinema. They're not saying it's effecting their lives, they're saying his movies ****ing suck and he doesn't deserve to make the money he does.

Thanks, SOMEONE finally gets it.

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#60 jvKratos
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It just seems crazy to me that people feel that their tastes or opinions have to win. Who cares if Transformers 2 is successful it in no way affects you. And the people who believe that Transformers or Bay movies in general are a blight on American cinema, which magical standard are we supposed to shoot for? Which country is putting out nothing but emotionally riveting complex character dramas with every single film? Every country has a division that makes dumb, broad comedies, or shiny special effects driven fluff, or overly violent action movies. We just don't hear about them because American critics have enough movies to keep up with, why bother with another country's garbage? So all we hear about is other countries best movies.

It's all going to be okay. No one in France or Japan, or wherever holds you personally responsible for approving Transformers' marketing budget.

If Transformers 3 sweeps all the awards at Cannes, then you can start worrying.

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#61 Wasdie  Moderator
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I love explosions... :(

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#62 JustPlainLucas
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You want depth, acting, plot, etc., etc., Stay away from Michael Bay movies! The man makes good ACTION movies, not great movies. There is a clear distinction between a good action movie and a great movie like say, Good Will Hunting. Bay knows what he's doing. He makes his movies to SELL TICKETS, not to impress you cynical wannabe critics. I swear to god, Bay bashing is starting to become a very irritating OT trend... :|
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#63 ParonoiaAgent
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You want depth, acting, plot, etc., etc., Stay away from Michael Bay movies! The man makes good ACTION movies, not great movies. There is a clear distinction between a good action movie and a great movie like say, Good Will Hunting. Bay knows what he's doing. He makes his movies to SELL TICKETS, not to impress you cynical wannabe critics. I swear to god, Bay bashing is starting to become a very irritating OT trend... :|JustPlainLucas

I wouldn't call them "good"

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#64 TheOddQuantum
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How about ya just stop watching his movies?

Personally, I enjoy the senseless, explosion-filled, sexyactorsrunninginslowmotionness that his films provides in excess. It's fun to watch a movie like that every once in a while.

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#65 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

I wouldn't call them "good"

Well, let's just agree to disagree.
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#66 sammyjenkis898
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You want depth, acting, plot, etc., etc., Stay away from Michael Bay movies! The man makes good ACTION movies, not great movies. There is a clear distinction between a good action movie and a great movie like say, Good Will Hunting. Bay knows what he's doing. He makes his movies to SELL TICKETS, not to impress you cynical wannabe critics. I swear to god, Bay bashing is starting to become a very irritating OT trend... :|JustPlainLucas

The man doesn't make "good" action movies. He makes movies with explosions. There's a difference.

You want good action movies? Watch Terminator, T2, Aliens, or The Dark Knight. The pacing is well done, and it actually has some depth.

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#67 Samwel_X
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]You want depth, acting, plot, etc., etc., Stay away from Michael Bay movies! The man makes good ACTION movies, not great movies. There is a clear distinction between a good action movie and a great movie like say, Good Will Hunting. Bay knows what he's doing. He makes his movies to SELL TICKETS, not to impress you cynical wannabe critics. I swear to god, Bay bashing is starting to become a very irritating OT trend... :|sammyjenkis898

The man doesn't make "good" action movies. He makes movies with explosions. There's a difference.

You want good action movies? Watch Terminator, T2, Aliens, or The Dark Knight. The pacing is well done, and it actually has some depth.

Exactly, an action film by doesn't have to be a derivative piece of **** by default. It doesn't have to be hated by critics by default. Good action films can have depth, can have a story, can have more than just frenetic camera movements and CGI.

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#68 elblanquito_81
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I love explosions... :(

Wasdie

So do I. The more the better.

Who gives a **** about depth and pacing?? I mean, really. All I care about is whether I can be entertained for a couple hours on a lazy, summer evening. That's it.

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#69 ParonoiaAgent
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I love explosions... :(

elblanquito_81

So do I. The more the better.

Who gives a **** about depth and pacing?? I mean, really. All I care about is whether I can be entertained for a couple hours on a lazy, summer evening. That's it.

Well I'm sorry sorry if you're so easy to impress. You must of been one of the many who went to see X-Men Origins instead of Watchmen.

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#70 D3nnyCrane
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No, he's the master of unintentional comedies...
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#71 ParonoiaAgent
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No, he's the master of unintentional comedies...D3nnyCrane

I don't see what you're getting at....

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#72 The_Last_Ride
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I think the Transformer movies are awesome, but you have the right to your own opinion
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#73 martialbullet
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He should go back to commercials >___>

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#74 D3nnyCrane
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[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]No, he's the master of unintentional comedies...ParonoiaAgent

I don't see what you're getting at....

Means his attempts at gritty action leave me laughing my ass off.
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#75 Twinny1990
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Michael Bay is an abomination to mankind. I just watched Transformers 2 and.. Well...
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#76 D3nnyCrane
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Michael Bay is an abomination to mankind. I just watched Transformers 2 and.. Well... Twinny1990
Robots. With testicles. Nuff said.
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#77 cousin_eddy
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I have beleived so for years :lol:
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#78 Twinny1990
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[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]No, he's the master of unintentional comedies...ParonoiaAgent

I don't see what you're getting at....

Theres a sentimental moment in Transformers 2: Spoiler. Where they are about to drop Optumus' body on the hangar. And theres sad music playing and I assume they're going to hover him down onto with a chopper. But no, they hover him down until he hangs about 5 meters above the hangar, then they just drop him with a bang like he's a worthless piece of trash, like the movie. Spoiler.
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#79 ParonoiaAgent
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[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]No, he's the master of unintentional comedies...Twinny1990

I don't see what you're getting at....

Theres a sentimental moment in Transformers 2: Spoiler. Where they are about to drop Optumus' body on the hangar. And theres sad music playing and I assume they're going to hover him down onto with a chopper. But no, they hover him down until he hangs about 5 meters above the hangar, then they just drop him with a bang like he's a worthless piece of trash, like the movie. Spoiler.

Well Bay must be a ROCIST!!!

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#80 ReaperPlaya
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I'm surprised no one is basing Roland Emerich.
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#81 Rekunta
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I don't know about you guys, but to me movies are more than just thoughtless entertainment for a two hour period to be forgotten the moment I leave the theatre. Film is much more than that, and deserves much better. Besides, it's not hard to think and appreciate a good plot and character development, that's what makes a great movie what it is. If you want a mindless ride, go hop on a rollercoaster. The medium of film is to be able to convey much more than just sex, explosions, and 12 year old juvenile robot leg humping humor. I'm not saying these movies don't have a place, but when halfway decent Sci-fi movies come out once every 2-3 years, there's a problem.

It seems that any Sci-fi action movies are automatically given the "least common denominator" treatment nowadays just because of their genre. When was the last time we honestly had a decent Sci-fi movie? The original Matrix? Nope, I didn't find Star Trek to be a good movie. As Bay knows, why bother with important aspects of a movie when he can fill it up with FX to dazzle audiences? As bad a filmmaker as he is, he sure knows what he's doing.

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#82 MrGeezer
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He's had enough chances to improve, yet he just CAN'T. I mean, I want more than just "hot" women,things that go boom, and plot holes( which I don't want). I,as I hope you do, want DEPTH, ACTING, and a PLOT(a GOOD one).

ParonoiaAgent

Meh, he can do what he wants.

You and I might not like his movies, but that's not really important. If we don't like them, we don't have to watch them.

Meanwhile, apparently there are a hell of a lot of people who DO like his movies. So if there are people who want to see his movies, why should he stop just because you and I think he sucks?

I think the real question is why are you still watching Michael Bay movies?

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#83 pygmahia5
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I don't really care. I've just stopped watching his movies.

*waits for sammy to come in and start flaming Michael Bay... :|*

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You act like I'm the only one that hates him.

hate is such a strong word, my friend...i enjoyed transformers 1 and 2 but id be a liar if i said i LOVED them. they were entertaining and thats that.
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#84 MrGeezer
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I don't understand the fascination people have with stopping successful people from doing things...FragStains

Because they're successful, and I'm not. So if they're gonna get successful by being crappy, then that makes me feel sad and inadequate.

So there are two options. Either I can get successful so that other peoples' success is not threatening to me, or I can try to bring successful people down. The first option sure as hell ain't happening, so I'm going with the latter option.

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#85 muller39
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he can still make them i dont mind at all

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#86 Avistann
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I enjoy his movies.
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#87 Evil_Saluki
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He can make films all he wants, but i'm not watching them, he doesn't have anything to offer me.

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#88 chAzN93
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he makes movies that arent very "good: but entertaining as hell..so im not complaining
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#89 backinthekrak
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Totally agree - in fact, I think there should be a list of people that have to get permission from me to make a film...

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#90 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

You want good action movies? Watch Terminator, T2, Aliens, or The Dark Knight. The pacing is well done, and it actually has some depth.

Noo... those are great movies. When I mean good action movies, i mean just that "good action" movies. For solely action purposes, he excels.
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#91 JustPlainLucas
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Totally agree - in fact, I think there should be a list of people that have to get permission from me to make a film...

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I am so glad you don't work in the industry. :|
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#92 Z0MBIES
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I don't necessarily think that he should stop making movies, I just think that he should never make any money from his movies.
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#93 Chutebox
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Before I watch his movies I know what's going to come, so I'm not getting my hopes up for any depth or story or anything. He gives good action sequences which is A OK with me.

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#94 kozzy1234
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He sucks I agree.

Its like he purposely goes out and tries to find the worst actors and actress's in the world.

Hes good at his action and special effects, but my god he has some horrible choice in who acts (or tries to acting) in his films.

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#95 AcronymnsFTW
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He's made some good movies, but that doesn't mean all his movies are good. I think he needs to set himself up with a few goals. -Make a film without explosions -Make a film without violence -Make a film without immature humor -Make a film without cliched characters Of he could try his hand at that he might realize how he's been butchering his own work. Yes explosions are very visual, but they occur so frequently in his films that their dramatic impact is nothing. If someone throws water at you while you're standing in line at Mc Donalds it's a shock to the system. If it occurs while you're at the beach it has no effect. It's the same with Michael Bay and his over the top action.
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great action, bad stories...

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#97 Jekken6
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I seriously doubt he'll screw this one up:  Wilfred_Owen

No, just no. Remakes of good movies should never be done. The classic movies shuold be untouched, save for better audio/visual quality

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#98 ParonoiaAgent
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He's made some good movies, but that doesn't mean all his movies are good. I think he needs to set himself up with a few goals. -Make a film without explosions -Make a film without violence -Make a film without immature humor -Make a film without cliched characters Of he could try his hand at that he might realize how he's been butchering his own work. Yes explosions are very visual, but they occur so frequently in his films that their dramatic impact is nothing. If someone throws water at you while you're standing in line at Mc Donalds it's a shock to the system. If it occurs while you're at the beach it has no effect. It's the same with Michael Bay and his over the top action.AcronymnsFTW
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#99 Darthmatt
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I just dont get what all the hype is about this guy. He is very shallow as a film maker, and very over ratted.

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#100 sentenced83
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i hated the new characters in the TF2 . where's the old guys ? where's the lamborghini ?(i have its action figure) , the story sucks