Amanda Knox Convicted By Italian Court; Sentenced to 26 Years In Prison

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#51 LJS9502_basic
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After reading what little evidence they actually had....it wouldn't have convinced me were I on the jury. There is enough doubt there.....
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#52 Tjeremiah1988
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its on ABC right now :20/20.
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#53 Bobzfamily
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[QUOTE="Bobzfamily"]

She's a murderer plain and simple, she committed what is a crime in literally every country on the planet and for that she deserves punishment.

I don't believe extraditions should have to take place. I'm Canadian and I'd be more than happy if the Americans kept Kadr and tortured his ass a bit. I don't want terrorists coming back to be housed in my country (regardless of race or religion) because I know the courts here will put him back on the streets in months.

Good for the Italians, I hope they keep her there indefinetely.

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how the hell do you know if she is guilty? what happened to the old saying..."INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"? looks like italy works backwards.

What is there to say she isn't? The police confirmed years ago that she was in the cottage at the time and she was completely baked on hash. Her DNA was found on the knife at her boyfridn's apartment (the one the British girl was stabbed with). Knox knew specific details about the body which only could have happened if she'd aided in the murder. There are 13 different pieces of forescnic evidence that suggests she was involved, not to mention the vastly conflicting statements she and her boyfriend made.

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#54 Tjeremiah1988
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so im watching the report right now and according to 20/20, her DNA wasnt at the crime scene, no finger prints or foot prints, the jury wasnt screened for bias, and she never confessed to the crime.
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#55 LJS9502_basic
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What is there to say she isn't? The police confirmed years ago that she was in the cottage at the time and she was completely baked on hash. Her DNA was found on the knife at her boyfridn's apartment (the one the British girl was stabbed with). Knox knew specific details about the body which only could have happened if she'd aided in the murder. There are 13 different pieces of forescnic evidence that suggests she was involved, not to mention the vastly conflicting statements she and her boyfriend made.

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That depends one's side of the story.....

However, defense lawyers argue the knife was too big to match Kercher's wounds and the amount of DNA collected was too small to determine with certainty whose it was.

Remember prosecuters goal is to convict someone...anyone of a crime and move on.

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#56 Conjuration
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Unbelieveable. There was no evidence against her, yet she gets conviceted of murder and sentenced to 26 years?

It really too bad when a person gets thrown in jail for the rest of their lives just because "someone" has to pay.
Someone should lay charges against the police department who handled this investigation for tampering with, and creating false evidence. They're the ones who need to eb investigated. Goddamn pigs.

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#57 The_Capitalist
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Unbelieveable. There was no evidence against her, yet she gets conviceted of murder and sentenced to 26 years?

It really too bad when a person gets thrown in jail for the rest of their lives just because "someone" has to pay.
Someone should lay charges against the police department who handled this investigation for tampering with, and creating false evidence. They're the ones who need to eb investigated. Goddamn pigs.

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The evidence may have been lacking, but she sure didn't act like an innocent person. Her behavior immediately after the murder is a red flag.

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#58 weezyfb
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After reading what little evidence they actually had....it wouldn't have convinced me were I on the jury. There is enough doubt there.....LJS9502_basic
yeah but their system is different.. the burden of proof is on the defense.
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#59 pecanin
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If she was Black or Ugly what would you think then ?

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#60 Shad0ki11
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She totally deserves it. I have no sympathy.

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#61 Mochyc
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[QUOTE="Bobzfamily"]

What is there to say she isn't? The police confirmed years ago that she was in the cottage at the time and she was completely baked on hash. Her DNA was found on the knife at her boyfridn's apartment (the one the British girl was stabbed with). Knox knew specific details about the body which only could have happened if she'd aided in the murder. There are 13 different pieces of forescnic evidence that suggests she was involved, not to mention the vastly conflicting statements she and her boyfriend made.

LJS9502_basic

That depends one's side of the story.....

However, defense lawyers argue the knife was too big to match Kercher's wounds and the amount of DNA collected was too small to determine with certainty whose it was.

Remember prosecuters goal is to convict someone...anyone of a crime and move on.

That's what the defense lawyers say. It's also what the news website reported. Information can be manipulated, I wouldn't quote the article for proof, especially when it's rather vague.
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#62 Pixy64
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Yeah, i watched few report videos on various web sites this morning. it's important, an innocent young girl murdered. i just hope they got the right personsbecause i still can't stop thinking about Knox when they told her you must spend 26 years in prison.

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#64 Pixy64
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26 years is a joke. She should be put away for a hell of a lot longer.xTheExploited
26 YEARS is not enough? trust me pass an hour in prison is harder than anything in this world.
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#65 shinian
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After reading what little evidence they actually had....it wouldn't have convinced me were I on the jury. There is enough doubt there.....LJS9502_basic

They have Jury in Italian Courts?

On-topic: good riddance.

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#66 C_BozkurT_C
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]After reading what little evidence they actually had....it wouldn't have convinced me were I on the jury. There is enough doubt there.....shinian

They have Jury in Italian Courts?

i hope you're being sarcastic. very ignorant comment.

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Thoughts? Innocent until proven guillty. Prosecution mistakes appear so grevious that the trial should've been called off as a sham. Interrogations without a lawyer present and without any A/V recordings? How could any confessions made under those circumstances be anything but laughed at in any modern court of law? Not to mention they interrogated her for twenty hours straight in a foreign prison - I mean, even if every word of the cop's report on her story is true; the circumstances are such that Amanda could reasonably claim she was fatigued/nervous/scared ****less by cops and messed up her story because of it. There's enough misinformation going on with regards to the actual case, we didn't need cloudy areas when it came to the legal pursuit as well.

That said, the physical evidence levelled against Amanda *seemed* tenuous at best. They couldn't find any trace of her in the room where Kercher was murdered, except for that one bra clasp and the knife back at Sollecito's apartment (the latter of which became the focal piece of evidence for the prosecution). Either the crime scene analysts didn't do their job right, or the lawyers on the prosecution were arguing over the wrong stuff. I've heard ten different versions of the events of the night, and in a few of them there are additional (critical) pieces of evidence which seem hardly used by the prosecution. Apparently, Knox and Bf purchased two gallons of bleach the very next morning? Did analysts find the entire apartment convieniently bleached? Was this why no DNA wasn't found? It couldn't have been Guede who bleached the apartment, as he left his own DNA, bloody footprints and all, all over the crime scene. Is this bleach thing just untrue, or did the prosecution neglect to make a point out of it in favor of frivolous character assasination?

The prosecution did a piss poor job of convincing anyone that Knox had motive for the crime. Does she behave like a liar? Based on her contradictory stories and early attempt to frame an innocent for the crime - absolutely. She has something to hide and the extent of her involvement with Kercher's murder is the only question. However, even her guilt at this point is irrelevant given the trial itself being one huge failure after another. Insufficient motive was established, the main prosecutor himself is a wackjob, the evidence is almost entirely negligible, and exposure to incredibly biased media between trials tainted the integrity of the Italian jury's verdict. Guilty or not, her shot at a fair trial was eviscerated before she even showed up at court and thus the verdict is a total and utter failure of justice.

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#68 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]After reading what little evidence they actually had....it wouldn't have convinced me were I on the jury. There is enough doubt there.....weezyfb
yeah but their system is different.. the burden of proof is on the defense.

And that doesn't mean she did it though.....if there isn't evidence but that the defense wasn't adequate.....hardly equates to the uses proclaiming her guilt. You can't look at the verdict but the evidence.
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#69 waqster
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Pardon my lack of knowlegde of this case, but why exactly did Knox Kill her?

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#70 BumFluff122
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Pardon my lack of knowlegde of this case, but why exactly did Knox Kill her?

waqster

Apparently it's because the dead girl said no to a threesome with knox and her bf.

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#71 _Impmacaque_
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Pardon my lack of knowlegde of this case, but why exactly did Knox Kill her?

waqster

Prosecution argued four or five different motives for the murder. Cash, hatred, drugs, you name it. The prevailing "theory" seemed to be that Knox and boyfriend were high and wanted a kinky threesome with Kercher, then stabbed her in the throat when she rejected.

Oddly enough, the "why" behind her actions was poorly explained in the trial and not really a focus of the media either way. Funny, eh?

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#72 Choga
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We will never know who exactly killed Ms. Kercher or what exactly happened. Personally, I don't buy the "sex game" gone wrong theory at all. But there is no doubt that Ms. Knox was involved in the murder to some capacity. Perhaps the killing was unintentional, but it happened anyway. Ms. Knox has no alibi to prove that she was not there at the scene of the crime when it happened.

Plus, they were high on pot when this happened. When people are high on pot, crazy stuff happens.

Regardless, I am satisified with the verdict and I am appalled that so many Americans blame Italy's dysfunctional justice system for putting an "innocent" woman behind bars.

Rest in peace, Meredith Kercher.

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lol @ your statement about pot :lol:

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Thoughts? Innocent until proven guillty. Prosecution mistakes appear so grevious that the trial should've been called off as a sham. Interrogations without a lawyer present and without any A/V recordings? How could any confessions made under those circumstances be anything but laughed at in any modern court of law? Not to mention they interrogated her for twenty hours straight in a foreign prison - I mean, even if every word of the cop's report on her story is true; the circumstances are such that Amanda could reasonably claim she was fatigued/nervous/scared ****less by cops and messed up her story because of it. There's enough misinformation going on with regards to the actual case, we didn't need cloudy areas when it came to the legal pursuit as well.

That said, the physical evidence levelled against Amanda *seemed* tenuous at best. They couldn't find any trace of her in the room where Kercher was murdered, except for that one bra clasp and the knife back at Sollecito's apartment (the latter of which became the focal piece of evidence for the prosecution). Either the crime scene analysts didn't do their job right, or the lawyers on the prosecution were arguing over the wrong stuff. I've heard ten different versions of the events of the night, and in a few of them there are additional (critical) pieces of evidence which seem hardly used by the prosecution. Apparently, Knox and Bf purchased two gallons of bleach the very next morning? Did analysts find the entire apartment convieniently bleached? Was this why no DNA wasn't found? It couldn't have been Guede who bleached the apartment, as he left his own DNA, bloody footprints and all, all over the crime scene. Is this bleach thing just untrue, or did the prosecution neglect to make a point out of it in favor of frivolous character assasination?

The prosecution did a piss poor job of convincing anyone that Knox had motive for the crime. Does she behave like a liar? Based on her contradictory stories and early attempt to frame an innocent for the crime - absolutely. She has something to hide and the extent of her involvement with Kercher's murder is the only question. However, even her guilt at this point is irrelevant given the trial itself being one huge failure after another. Insufficient motive was established, the main prosecutor himself is a wackjob, the evidence is almost entirely negligible, and exposure to incredibly biased media between trials tainted the integrity of the Italian jury's verdict. Guilty or not, her shot at a fair trial was eviscerated before she even showed up at court and thus the verdict is a total and utter failure of justice.

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Yeah, I think so.. to really convict somebody of murder you need absolutely undeniable physical evidence.. I don't think there should really be any other way. If you know somebody.. chances are almost any prosecutor could establish a motive and means for why you could have killed that person even if you didn't.
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#74 stupid4
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There was hardly any substanial evidence against her. The Italian court system is convicting her because she is American.

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#75 Democratik
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Well, I dont know of any serious corruption in the Italian justice system.... So, I cant really make a huge argument against the sentence
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#76 8-Bitterness
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funny how some people from the US say shes being discriminated cuz shes american...
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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]26 years is a joke. She should be put away for a hell of a lot longer.chessmaster1989

26 years is a third of the average life span. That's far from "a joke". :|

She took took 100% of someone else's life. So only 25% of her life in return isn't a joke?
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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

26 years is a joke. She should be put away for a hell of a lot longer.xTheExploited

26 years is a third of the average life span. That's far from "a joke". :|

She took took 100% of someone else's life. So only 25% of her life in return isn't a joke?

Looks like some of you guys agree with death penalty for murder like middle east countries.