America slides backwards - Nearly 50% affirm creationism in last 10k years.

It is a shame to see a developed country having this level of ignorance, what is to blame for this trend?

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=38944

NASHVILLE (BP) -- Proving once again that Americans aren't buying pro-evolution scientists' dogma, 46 percent of adults in Gallup's latest survey say they believe God created human beings within the past 10,000 years -- the highest percentage for that answer since 2006 and the second highest since the question was first asked in 1982.

Gallup asks Americans their thoughts on evolution every year. This year 46 percent agree that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so" -- the same percentage as 2006. In 1993 and 1999 it was 47 percent. When it was first asked in 1982, it was 44 percent.

Who cares? It is none of your damn business what people believe.TheWalkingGhost

Why so upset about what I believe?

Survey of only 1,012 adults leaves a bit of room for error. Without a higher sample of people it could just be circumstantial variance. Either way, In the 21st century to have a first world country with such a high rate of science rejectionists is concerning.

I'm not suprised.

Survey of only 1,012 adults leaves a bit of room for error. Without a higher sample of people it could just be circumstantial variance. Either way, In the 21st century to have a first world country with such a high rate of science rejectionists is concerning.

mattisgod01

That sample size is ridiculous to judge the entire populous of America

I don't think people's world view dictates whether America is moving backwards. That would actually be dictated by whether or not NASA is funded...cslayer211

People who believe that all of humanity were magicked into existance sometime in the last 10 thousand years would not be able to study several fields of science.

Boring.

You stink too.

Edit: ooh! legs 11!!

Iszdope

Lies, I have a shower every saturday.

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[QUOTE="Iszdope"]

Boring.

You stink too.

Edit: ooh! legs 11!!

Iszdope

Lies, I have a shower every saturday.

That is BORING too.

Just BORING really.

Edit: ooh! lucky 13!!

Did you know the word boring was first used in 1835-45?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Iszdope"]

That is BORING too.

Just BORING really.

Edit: ooh! lucky 13!!

Iszdope

Did you know the word boring was first used in 1835-45?

Did you before you just googled it?

Edit: oh. ...maybe just googled it?

Of course I didn't know before i googled it.

Even with the terribly small sample size that means 50% of people don't believe in creationism.

Even with the terribly small sample size that means 50% of people don't believe in creationism.

MacBoomStick

78% of americans believe in creationism, 50% of that 78% think god magicked humans into existance within the last 10,000 years.

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[QUOTE="Iszdope"]

Did you before you just googled it?

Edit: oh. ...maybe just googled it?

Iszdope

Of course I didn't know before i googled it.

Well, that is of course...DEFINITELY boring then, isn't it?!?

Wow.

I agree it's boring, I have no idea why you brought it up in the first place.

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[QUOTE="Iszdope"]

Well, that is of course...DEFINITELY boring then, isn't it?!?

Wow.

Iszdope

I agree it's boring, I have no idea why you brought it up in the first place.

Are you drunk @ work again perchance?

I'm never drunk at work, unless hangover counts and even if that is the case, no hangover today.

It is a shame to see a developed country having this level of ignorance,

tenaka2

Says the person using a s****y study for source.

Survey of only 1,012 adults leaves a bit of room for error. mattisgod01

Even so, almost 500 people still believe in Creationism? :?

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]Survey of only 1,012 adults leaves a bit of room for error. Planeforger

Even so, almost 500 people still believe in Creationism? :?

[QUOTE="Planeforger"]

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]Survey of only 1,012 adults leaves a bit of room for error. Stevo_the_gamer

Even so, almost 500 people still believe in Creationism? :?

Hah, I wish, going off of anecdotal evidence, that is far from the truth.

Magic Goo religion again ? (aka evolution)

Matter that came from nowhere started spinning for no reason. . . . .

Then - in frictionless space no less - the spinning action made the matter get hot and explode. . . . The exploding matter formed planets and stars that magically spun in different directions in violation of the laws of physics. . . . .

Then - magic rain from nowhere created magic goo on one of the planets . . .

The lifeless goo magically became alive - - with ready made DNA - - , and turned into kitty cats, pine trees and Lady Gaga - without leaving any fossil trails for any of the "evolutionary" phases. . . . . because - as everyone knows - magic doesn't leave evidence. . . .

The religion of evolution (magic goo theory) - is one of the funniest religions ever invented

Magic Goo religion again ? (aka evolution)

Matter that came from nowhere started spinning for no reason. . . . .

Then - in frictionless space no less - the spinning action made the matter get hot and explode. . . . The exploding matter formed planets and stars that magically spun in different directions in violation of the laws of physics. . . . .

Then - magic rain from nowhere created magic goo on one of the planets . . .

The lifeless goo magically became alive - - with ready made DNA - - , and turned into kitty cats, pine trees and Lady Gaga - without leaving any fossil trails for any of the "evolutionary" phases. . . . . because - as everyone knows - magic doesn't leave evidence. . . .

The religion of evolution (magic goo theory) - is one of the funniest religions ever invented

Born_Lucky

The religion of evolution (magic goo theory) - is one of the funniest religions ever invented

Born_Lucky

Not a very credible study....LJS9502_basic

Magic Goo religion again ? (aka evolution)

Matter that came from nowhere started spinning for no reason. . . . .

Then - in frictionless space no less - the spinning action made the matter get hot and explode. . . . The exploding matter formed planets and stars that magically spun in different directions in violation of the laws of physics. . . . .

Then - magic rain from nowhere created magic goo on one of the planets . . .

The lifeless goo magically became alive - - with ready made DNA - - , and turned into kitty cats, pine trees and Lady Gaga - without leaving any fossil trails for any of the "evolutionary" phases. . . . . because - as everyone knows - magic doesn't leave evidence. . . .

The religion of evolution (magic goo theory) - is one of the funniest religions ever invented

Born_Lucky

I would love to live in a fantasty world where 1000 people is a proper sample size of 300 million. Sadly I live in reality.

I would love to live in a fantasty world where 1000 people is a proper sample size of 300 million. Sadly I live in reality.

Wasdie

Survey of only 1,012 adults leaves a bit of room for error. Without a higher sample of people it could just be circumstantial variance. Either way, In the 21st century to have a first world country with such a high rate of science rejectionists is concerning.

mattisgod01

Well in statistics, they should also tell you the confidence level and margin for error.

The fact that that is left out makes me think this isn't even a statistically relevent sample. It was also published in tennessee which makes me wonder if they also got their sample only from people in tennessee which is not exactly a random sample that would represent the population. As that state has one of the highest percentages of young earth creationists in the country.

The 2012 Gallup survey on human origins was conducted May 10-13 among 1,012 adults.Gallup

I would love to live in a fantasty world where 1000 people is a proper sample size of 300 million. Sadly I live in reality.

Wasdie

Well, to have a 95% confidence level with a 3% margine for error you only need 1067 people in the random sample.

You shouldn't be attacking the sample size so much as attacking:

1) The lack of margin for error published

2) The lack of confidence level

3) The fact that this was done in tennessee

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I would love to live in a fantasty world where 1000 people is a proper sample size of 300 million. Sadly I live in reality.

GummiRaccoon

Well, to have a 95% confidence level with a 3% margine for error you only need 1067 people in the random sample.

You shouldn't be attacking the sample size so much as attacking:

1) The lack of margin for error published

2) The lack of confidence level

3) The fact that this was done in tennessee

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I would love to live in a fantasty world where 1000 people is a proper sample size of 300 million. Sadly I live in reality.

MannyDelgado

Well, to have a 95% confidence level with a 3% margine for error you only need 1067 people in the random sample.

You shouldn't be attacking the sample size so much as attacking:

1) The lack of margin for error published

2) The lack of confidence level

3) The fact that this was done in tennessee

It wasn't necessarily in tennesee, so that was my error, and I went to gallup and couldn't find the confidence level and margin for error.

[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Well, to have a 95% confidence level with a 3% margine for error you only need 1067 people in the random sample.

You shouldn't be attacking the sample size so much as attacking:

1) The lack of margin for error published

2) The lack of confidence level

3) The fact that this was done in tennessee

GummiRaccoon

It wasn't necessarily in tennesee, so that was my error, and I went to gallup and couldn't find the confidence level and margin for error.

I haven't once bothered in believeing a Gallup poll for those exact reasons.

I also understand statistics, but the fact that Gallup doesn't actually give any information outside of the results of the poll, I just don't believe them at all. I highly doubt there sample size is truely "random".

I haven't once bothered in believeing a Gallup poll for those exact reasons.

I also understand statistics, but the fact that Gallup doesn't actually give any information outside of the results of the poll, I just don't believe them at all. I highly doubt there sample size is truely "random".

Wasdie

Also
>'I know about statistics'
>'I highly doubt there sample size is truely "random".'

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I haven't once bothered in believeing a Gallup poll for those exact reasons.

I also understand statistics, but the fact that Gallup doesn't actually give any information outside of the results of the poll, I just don't believe them at all. I highly doubt there sample size is truely "random".

MannyDelgado

Also
>'I know about statistics'
>'I highly doubt there sample size is truely "random".'

Ah, so they did follow proper procedure.

95% confidence with 4% margin for error, random sample, proper sample size.

boo hoo hoo

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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]How do you know they didn't publish the margin of error and confidence level? Did you find the actual survey? For that matter, how do you know it was done in Tennessee?Wasdie

It wasn't necessarily in tennesee, so that was my error, and I went to gallup and couldn't find the confidence level and margin for error.

I haven't once bothered in believeing a Gallup poll for those exact reasons.

I also understand statistics, but the fact that Gallup doesn't actually give any information outside of the results of the poll, I just don't believe them at all. I highly doubt there sample size is truely "random".

Several different polling agencies including Gallup and Pew have been doing surveys on this subject and the Statistics are always in the range of 43%-47%. Taking them all into consideration i'm prepared to accept it at roughly 44%.

Who cares? It is none of your damn business what people believe.TheWalkingGhost

It does when we have jackasses on the science board that don't accept peer reviewed data because their beliefs get in the way.. It is a problem when we have communities and politicians trying to stop anything that goes against their beliefs to be put in public schools like evolution.. IF you believe in this quietly, by all means go ahead and believe it.. But there is a large vocal group within there that want to steer policy based upon their beliefs regardless of what evidence that has been put forward that contradicts that.