Another girl trouble thread...

So yesterday my girlfriend which i've been dating only a week asked me if i smoked pot because she heard i did. I didnt want to lie so i said yes.. she took it pretty well. then today she asked me if i still do and i said yes, she asked me if i do it everyday i said no just every couple weeks which is the truth. she asked me a unch of questions about why i do it and stuff then she started crying... i felt like a total a** while all her friends were like wtf did iu do to her? Most of the people knew already that i did it and i told them that she found out and so ya they werent really mad at me. So i have no idea what to do we talked more and i said i could quit, but she still seemed really p/o'ed at me. What do you guys think i should do?

make her smoke so she can see how it feels lol

Yeah, kidnap her, tie her up, and then force it, before she knows it she will want to do it again and again... Untied.

Edit: After your story, I doubt it would work:P

Well I think the point of her asking if you did, which really meant "you better not be after I ask this question." Then well you didnt get the hint that she doesnt want to be around someone that society looks down at. Well at least you do it moderately.

Just for smoking pot? People are stupid sometimes. jaydough

Tell her that you care about her enough to stop for her (if you really do) and see how she responds.

[QUOTE="jaydough"] Just for smoking pot? People are stupid sometimes. cyberdarkkid

Educate her about pot. It sounds like she's been told a bunch of stories about what it does for a very long time now, and she should have those myths debunked anyways.

why couldnt this thread be coming from The Versital?

I don't know quit smoking pot I guess.

My rant/story on this issue- I got semi-attached to a pot smoker (didn't know it til after I was attached), who swore to me he'd stop smoking after a certain point. Even though I didn't like it or what him to do it, I didn't come first- the drugs did. And pot lead to other things. Other drugs in particular, while I was with him. I had enough after a while and got the h*ll out of that relationship. He went on to bigger and better things though, like dealing and having his house broken into and robbed at gun point... while he and his new pot smoking gf and friends were there. And guess what the guys wanted?? The drugs.

Point being, be very careful and if you have no plans of stopping, let this girl go. She doesn't deserve to tag along for whatever trouble may come because of the pot.

First you should quit, then you should never lie to her again. That's pretty much all you can do at the moment.

My rant/story on this issue- I got semi-attached to a pot smoker (didn't know it til after I was attached), who swore to me he'd stop smoking after a certain point. Even though I didn't like it or what him to do it, I didn't come first- the drugs did. And pot lead to other things. Other drugs in particular, while I was with him. I had enough after a while and got the h*ll out of that relationship. He went on to bigger and better things though, like dealing and having his house broken into and robbed at gun point... while he and his new pot smoking gf and friends were there. And guess what the guys wanted?? The drugs.

Point being, be very careful and if you have no plans of stopping, let this girl go. She doesn't deserve to tag along for whatever trouble may come because of the pot.

binpink

And that incident about him getting robbed is a good reason why pot should be legalized. If it was legal, it would be sold in certain stores, thus taking away the dealers' business, thus taking away your ex's business... unless he was dealing other drugs. In which case it wouldn't be pot's fault he got robbed.

Educate her about pot. It sounds like she's been told a bunch of stories about what it does for a very long time now, and she should have those myths debunked anyways.

theone86

Maybe you should stop smoking pot.

It'l save you time AND money.

What do you guys think i should do?

mattpunkgd

Isn't it obvious?

Stop smoking pot.

If your girlfriend is upset to find out that you smoke pot, then that should be a clear message for you to stop.

It wasn't the pot that lead him to other drugs, it was himself.needled24-7

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]It wasn't the pot that lead him to other drugs, it was himself.AirGuitarist87

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Educate her about pot. It sounds like she's been told a bunch of stories about what it does for a very long time now, and she should have those myths debunked anyways.

AirGuitarist87

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]It wasn't the pot that lead him to other drugs, it was himself.Immortalica

Good for you. I drive cars, and I don't think there's such a thing as car accidents, so there aren't.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]It wasn't the pot that lead him to other drugs, it was himself.Immortalica

Probably varies from person to person.

My rant/story on this issue- I got semi-attached to a pot smoker (didn't know it til after I was attached), who swore to me he'd stop smoking after a certain point. Even though I didn't like it or what him to do it, I didn't come first- the drugs did. And pot lead to other things. Other drugs in particular, while I was with him. I had enough after a while and got the h*ll out of that relationship. He went on to bigger and better things though, like dealing and having his house broken into and robbed at gun point... while he and his new pot smoking gf and friends were there. And guess what the guys wanted?? The drugs.

Point being, be very careful and if you have no plans of stopping, let this girl go. She doesn't deserve to tag along for whatever trouble may come because of the pot.

binpink

Ugh to this, ugh to the girl's story about her mom, and ugh to this turning into another pot thread. First, that dude is an idiot. Idiots do idiotic things whether they smoke pot or not. Fourteen and a half million Americans smoke pot, they don't all turn into drug dealing coke addicts. Second, I've been around people with real addictions and have noticed that many times people use those addictions as an excuse for all the a-hole things addicts do. Someone I know is over a year sober from alcohol. When he was drinking constantly people would get extremely bent out of shape about it because he would act like a complete jerk. Now he quit, and he still acts exactly the same. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks. Point is, maybe the stories about the mother exaggerated what exactly pot was responsible for. Maybe they're blaming the whole situation on pot because they don't want to face personal problems, maybe whoever told the stories didn't know about other drugs she might have been taking, or maybe they just focused in on pot because it was the most apparant. Whatever the situation, I highly doubt this mom just started smoking pot and all of the sudden the pot made her decide to abandon her family, it doesn't happen that way. I feel sympathy for the girl and I understand why she would be sensative about it, but people seriously need to learn the facts about pot and stop going around making wild accusations about its effects.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Educate her about pot. It sounds like she's been told a bunch of stories about what it does for a very long time now, and she should have those myths debunked anyways.

AirGuitarist87

So pot is automatically responsible for all of her mistakes? It sounds to me that everything she's been told about her mother and pot is comprable to Reefer Madness. As for going without it, I can drop it for as long as I want without hesitation, and have done so before. THC hasno physically addictive qualities.

It shouldn't be hard at all for him, since he only does it ever few weeks (assuming he is telling the truth). Starting in January, I went three months without doing it without a problem. I went from doing it at least several times a week (sometimes every day, or almost), to none. I'd be in the same room as people smoking blunts, and even though I wanted to join in, it wasn't hard to resist. After the third month, it wasn't that I couldn't not resist any more, that's just when I had my last test...needled24-7

I don't think it is. And I smoke.Immortalica

[QUOTE="binpink"]

My rant/story on this issue- I got semi-attached to a pot smoker (didn't know it til after I was attached), who swore to me he'd stop smoking after a certain point. Even though I didn't like it or what him to do it, I didn't come first- the drugs did. And pot lead to other things. Other drugs in particular, while I was with him. I had enough after a while and got the h*ll out of that relationship. He went on to bigger and better things though, like dealing and having his house broken into and robbed at gun point... while he and his new pot smoking gf and friends were there. And guess what the guys wanted?? The drugs.

Point being, be very careful and if you have no plans of stopping, let this girl go. She doesn't deserve to tag along for whatever trouble may come because of the pot.

theone86

Ugh to this, ugh to the girl's story about her mom, and ugh to this turning into another pot thread. First, that dude is an idiot. Idiots do idiotic things whether they smoke pot or not. Fourteen and a half million Americans smoke pot, they don't all turn into drug dealing coke addicts. Second, I've been around people with real addictions and have noticed that many times people use those addictions as an excuse for all the a-hole things addicts do. Someone I know is over a year sober from alcohol. When he was drinking constantly people would get extremely bent out of shape about it because he would act like a complete jerk. Now he quit, and he still acts exactly the same. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks. Point is, maybe the stories about the mother exaggerated what exactly pot was responsible for. Maybe they're blaming the whole situation on pot because they don't want to face personal problems, maybe whoever told the stories didn't know about other drugs she might have been taking, or maybe they just focused in on pot because it was the most apparant. Whatever the situation, I highly doubt this mom just started smoking pot and all of the sudden the pot made her decide to abandon her family, it doesn't happen that way. I feel sympathy for the girl and I understand why she would be sensative about it, but people seriously need to learn the facts about pot and stop going around making wild accusations about its effects.

What do drugs traditionally do? Alter behavior. So no, a person will not necessarily act the same way sober as he will on drugs, and yes, people have chosen drugs over their families plenty of times, and no, pot is not an exception, regardless of how YOU are affected by it.

[QUOTE="Immortalica"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"] There's a massive debate in criminological circles whether cannabis is a gateway drug or not.-_Rain_-

Good for you. I drive cars, and I don't think there's such a thing as car accidents, so there aren't.

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]It shouldn't be hard at all for him, since he only does it ever few weeks (assuming he is telling the truth). Starting in January, I went three months without doing it without a problem. I went from doing it at least several times a week (sometimes every day, or almost), to none. I'd be in the same room as people smoking blunts, and even though I wanted to join in, it wasn't hard to resist. After the third month, it wasn't that I couldn't not resist any more, that's just when I had my last test...AirGuitarist87

I don't think it is. And I smoke.Immortalica

So pot is automatically responsible for all of her mistakes? It sounds to me that everything she's been told about her mother and pot is comprable to Reefer Madness. As for going without it, I can drop it for as long as I want without hesitation, and have done so before. THC hasno physically addictive qualities.theone86

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]It wasn't the pot that lead him to other drugs, it was himself.AirGuitarist87

The presence of a debate does not prove that is IS a gateway drug. There are many people in the field of criminology who profit heavily from cannabis being illegal, thus casting doubt on their position. In fact, the criminalization movement was originally led by the head of the DEA who, coincidentally, was at the time heading an agency that was bleeding money and in danger of being cut or reintegrated.

Anyways, the argument that it is a gateway drug is not solid at all. There's no conclusive evidence to prove that point, and any evidence that does points to the cause of that being its illegality. If cannabis is sold in licensed shops you're going to greatly reduce cannabis users' interaction with dealers who are dealing harder drugs, negating the gateway argument.

Your girlfriend is overreacting. She doesn't have to smoke with you. Her reaction reminds me of people who are really scared for their loved one who has been using hard drugs and doesn't want to go to rehab. That's terrifying not people who casually smoke weed.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]It wasn't the pot that lead him to other drugs, it was himself.theone86

The presence of a debate does not prove that is IS a gateway drug. There are many people in the field of criminology who profit heavily from cannabis being illegal, thus casting doubt on their position.

Circumstantial ad hominem: the truth of a person's argument/belief is independent to whether or not he benefits from it being true.

Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids.

So yesterday my girlfriend which i've been dating only a week...

mattpunkgd

[QUOTE="theone86"]So pot is automatically responsible for all of her mistakes? It sounds to me that everything she's been told about her mother and pot is comprable to Reefer Madness. As for going without it, I can drop it for as long as I want without hesitation, and have done so before. THC hasno physically addictive qualities.AirGuitarist87

Which is why in my other post I said I sympathize with the way she feels. That doesn't mean she shouldn't take the time to educate herself at some point, or that she even has to like cannabis and cannabis use, just that she shouldn't base her opinions on cannabis on irrational feelings. As for her witnessing it first hand, she witnessed events, not necessarily the drug use or its effects. It's possible that she was young and had been told stories about pot to explain the behavior she witnessed.

[QUOTE="binpink"]

My rant/story on this issue- I got semi-attached to a pot smoker (didn't know it til after I was attached), who swore to me he'd stop smoking after a certain point. Even though I didn't like it or what him to do it, I didn't come first- the drugs did. And pot lead to other things. Other drugs in particular, while I was with him. I had enough after a while and got the h*ll out of that relationship. He went on to bigger and better things though, like dealing and having his house broken into and robbed at gun point... while he and his new pot smoking gf and friends were there. And guess what the guys wanted?? The drugs.

Point being, be very careful and if you have no plans of stopping, let this girl go. She doesn't deserve to tag along for whatever trouble may come because of the pot.

needled24-7

And that incident about him getting robbed is a good reason why pot should be legalized. If it was legal, it would be sold in certain stores, thus taking away the dealers' business, thus taking away your ex's business... unless he was dealing other drugs. In which case it wouldn't be pot's fault he got robbed.

I hear ya. But he mentioned how he was more adventurous or some junk because he could handle pot, so he didn't have a problem trying new things since he'd already tried that. And I do think pot should be legalized. I realize it's comparable to drinking and cigarettes and how harmful those are, but I want it legalized for meaner reasons I guess. I still wouldn't ever be in a relationship with someone who did legal drugs though.

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="jaydough"] Just for smoking pot? People are stupid sometimes. jaydough

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]It shouldn't be hard at all for him, since he only does it ever few weeks (assuming he is telling the truth). Starting in January, I went three months without doing it without a problem. I went from doing it at least several times a week (sometimes every day, or almost), to none. I'd be in the same room as people smoking blunts, and even though I wanted to join in, it wasn't hard to resist. After the third month, it wasn't that I couldn't not resist any more, that's just when I had my last test...AirGuitarist87

I don't think it is. And I smoke.Immortalica

Psychologically addicting? Coffee is physically addicting, pain medicine is physically addicting, alcohol is physcally addicting, tobacco is physically addicting, and all are less demonized both socially and legally than pot, and you're going to argue about pyschilogical addiction? Chocolate is psychologically addicting, should we criminalize that too?

As for anecdotal evidence, the gateway theory is anecdotal. It basically amounts to cannabis is very commonly the first drug used by people who move on to other drugs, but says nothing about the user themself, the environment they're in, or any other conditions vital to a study of addiction.

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="binpink"]

My rant/story on this issue- I got semi-attached to a pot smoker (didn't know it til after I was attached), who swore to me he'd stop smoking after a certain point. Even though I didn't like it or what him to do it, I didn't come first- the drugs did. And pot lead to other things. Other drugs in particular, while I was with him. I had enough after a while and got the h*ll out of that relationship. He went on to bigger and better things though, like dealing and having his house broken into and robbed at gun point... while he and his new pot smoking gf and friends were there. And guess what the guys wanted?? The drugs.

Point being, be very careful and if you have no plans of stopping, let this girl go. She doesn't deserve to tag along for whatever trouble may come because of the pot.

binpink

And that incident about him getting robbed is a good reason why pot should be legalized. If it was legal, it would be sold in certain stores, thus taking away the dealers' business, thus taking away your ex's business... unless he was dealing other drugs. In which case it wouldn't be pot's fault he got robbed.

I hear ya. But he mentioned how he was more adventurous or some junk because he could handle pot, so he didn't have a problem trying new things since he'd already tried that. And I do think pot should be legalized. I realize it's comparable to drinking and cigarettes and how harmful those are, but I want it legalized for meaner reasons I guess. I still wouldn't ever be in a relationship with someone who did legal drugs though.

That's cool that you don't want a relationship with someone that does even legal drugs though, I can see why you would want that, and I can respect that. :)

Psychologically addicting? Coffee is physically addicting, pain medicine is physically addicting, alcohol is physcally addicting, tobacco is physically addicting, and all are less demonized both socially and legally than pot, and you're going to argue about pyschilogical addiction? Chocolate is psychologically addicting, should we criminalize that too?

theone86

[QUOTE="binpink"]

My rant/story on this issue- I got semi-attached to a pot smoker (didn't know it til after I was attached), who swore to me he'd stop smoking after a certain point. Even though I didn't like it or what him to do it, I didn't come first- the drugs did. And pot lead to other things. Other drugs in particular, while I was with him. I had enough after a while and got the h*ll out of that relationship. He went on to bigger and better things though, like dealing and having his house broken into and robbed at gun point... while he and his new pot smoking gf and friends were there. And guess what the guys wanted?? The drugs.

Point being, be very careful and if you have no plans of stopping, let this girl go. She doesn't deserve to tag along for whatever trouble may come because of the pot.

theone86

Ugh to this, ugh to the girl's story about her mom, and ugh to this turning into another pot thread. First, that dude is an idiot. Idiots do idiotic things whether they smoke pot or not. Fourteen and a half million Americans smoke pot, they don't all turn into drug dealing coke addicts. Second, I've been around people with real addictions and have noticed that many times people use those addictions as an excuse for all the a-hole things addicts do. Someone I know is over a year sober from alcohol. When he was drinking constantly people would get extremely bent out of shape about it because he would act like a complete jerk. Now he quit, and he still acts exactly the same. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks. Point is, maybe the stories about the mother exaggerated what exactly pot was responsible for. Maybe they're blaming the whole situation on pot because they don't want to face personal problems, maybe whoever told the stories didn't know about other drugs she might have been taking, or maybe they just focused in on pot because it was the most apparant. Whatever the situation, I highly doubt this mom just started smoking pot and all of the sudden the pot made her decide to abandon her family, it doesn't happen that way. I feel sympathy for the girl and I understand why she would be sensative about it, but people seriously need to learn the facts about pot and stop going around making wild accusations about its effects.

I don't believe I made any wild accusations. If pot was removed from the guy I mentioned's life, those things wouldn't have happened. He said himself pot led to trying other things. And no one would've robbed his house looking for drugs if he didn't have any. And he proudly admitetd that smoking pot altered his way of thinking and he could use his "third eye" and all that b.s. Maybe he could've used that extra eye to also help him with his schoolwork instead of failing his classes. Not to mention he was constantly broke and constantly complained about it. I already posted saying I think it should be legalized, but again, I wouldn't be with anyone who did drugs even if they were legal.

Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids.

[QUOTE="mattpunkgd"]

So yesterday my girlfriend which i've been dating only a week...

TX2OGEL989

I can't believe nobody else has noticed this.

As for anecdotal evidence, the gateway theory is anecdotal. It basically amounts to cannabis is very commonly the first drug used by people who move on to other drugs, but says nothing about the user themself, the environment they're in, or any other conditions vital to a study of addiction.

theone86