any of you guys smoke?

Only when it is needed for photographic purposes. Lord_Daemon

You're one of the cool guys, aren't you?:o

[QUOTE="YeahYes"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"][QUOTE="YeahYes"]

I'm addicted to cigarettes, and I don't give a god damn what any one thinks of it.

Funkdaddy13

That's great! All aboard the cancer train! next stop a horrible death. . . . Choo Choo!

I'd rather die of cancer, than have your self-righteous attitude.

He has a point. Just cause pally up there doesn't smoke doesn't mean he has to be a condescending jerk to people who do.

[QUOTE="Lord_Daemon"]Only when it is needed for photographic purposes. Funkdaddy13

:oops: ...gosh thanks, but no I used to have a roommate who modeled a lot and sometimes the photographer used me for a base model around which he would alter the picture. Sometimes he needed me to smoke for effect and I'm a decent fake smoker.

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="YeahYes"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"][QUOTE="YeahYes"]

I'm addicted to cigarettes, and I don't give a god damn what any one thinks of it.

Fortier

That's great! All aboard the cancer train! next stop a horrible death. . . . Choo Choo!

I'd rather die of cancer, than have your self-righteous attitude.

He has a point. Just cause pally up there doesn't smoke doesn't mean he has to be a condescending jerk to people who do.

[QUOTE="Fortier"][QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="YeahYes"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"][QUOTE="YeahYes"]

I'm addicted to cigarettes, and I don't give a god damn what any one thinks of it.

Funkdaddy13

That's great! All aboard the cancer train! next stop a horrible death. . . . Choo Choo!

I'd rather die of cancer, than have your self-righteous attitude.

He has a point. Just cause pally up there doesn't smoke doesn't mean he has to be a condescending jerk to people who do.

Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.

[QUOTE="Fortier"][QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="YeahYes"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"][QUOTE="YeahYes"]

I'm addicted to cigarettes, and I don't give a god damn what any one thinks of it.

Funkdaddy13

That's great! All aboard the cancer train! next stop a horrible death. . . . Choo Choo!

I'd rather die of cancer, than have your self-righteous attitude.

He has a point. Just cause pally up there doesn't smoke doesn't mean he has to be a condescending jerk to people who do.

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...

Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.Fortier

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

[QUOTE="Fortier"]Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.Funkdaddy13

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

It's more pathetic that people feel like telling me smoking is bad, I'm not a moron, I read the surgeon general's warning all the time, and if someone asks me in public that they teally don't want me to smoke by them then i'll do it.

You people would ban me from smoking outside if you could.

*Currently smoking while typing*

I smoke, and enjoy it. I respect those that smoke, as well as I share mutual respect for those that choose not to. All I ask is for respect in return. I do it because I actually enjoy it, for meit's calming on the nerves, andgoes well with a drink. I know the serious ramifications, and I have made my choice. You can call me dumb, and that may be true, but as an individual I am acting on my own free will. Just as those choosing not to smoke act on theirs. I don't condone it, so if you don't smoke, don't start smoking.

*Currently smoking while typing*

I smoke, and enjoy it. I respect those that smoke, as well as I share mutual respect for those that choose not to. All I ask is for respect in return. I do it because I actually enjoy it, for meit's calming on the nerves, andgoes well with a drink. I know the serious ramifications, and I have made my choice. You can call me dumb, and that may be true, but as an individual I am acting on my own free will. Just as those choosing not to smoke act on theirs. I don't condone it, so if you don't smoke, don't start smoking.

worthyofnote

thank you

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.YeahYes

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

It's more pathetic that people feel like telling me smoking is bad, I'm not a moron, I read the surgeon general's warning all the time, and if someone asks me in public that they teally don't want me to smoke by them then i'll do it.

You people would ban me from smoking outside if you could.

[QUOTE="Fortier"]Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.Funkdaddy13

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

The fact of the matter is, he's talking down to smokers in sheer arrogance, as if the fact he doesn't smoke somehow elevates above anyone who does. That's pretty twisted...

If people only knew what it took to recover their health from disease attributed to smoking(if it didn't end up killing them first), they wouldn't even consider it.

To those that smoke, face the reality:cancer can happen to you, treatment for it is horrific, and it is by no means a guarantee of survival.

[QUOTE="Lord_Daemon"]Only when it is needed for photographic purposes. gameeer1

You're one of the cool guys, aren't you?:o

Says the guy sporting a new Thom Yorke avi... :P

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.Fortier

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

The fact of the matter is, he's talking down to smokers in sheer arrogance, as if the fact he doesn't smoke somehow elevates above anyone who does. That's pretty twisted...

[QUOTE="Fortier"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.Funkdaddy13

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

The fact of the matter is, he's talking down to smokers in sheer arrogance, as if the fact he doesn't smoke somehow elevates above anyone who does. That's pretty twisted...

If people only knew what it took to recover their health from disease attributed to smoking(if it didn't end up killing them first), they wouldn't even consider it.

To those that smoke, face the reality:cancer can happen to you, treatment for it is horrific, and it is by no means a guarantee of survival.

Rekunta

Already knew that. And alcohol can cause liver damage, but I still enjoy a few drinks too.Cancer can happen to anyone. It seems nowadays everyone can get cancer from the simplest of things, such as the sun for instance. Cancer is defined as a disease which results in the corruption of cells, when those cells multiply into other cells they carry on the disease, and so on and so on. So I already know the possibilities. I know the ramifications and consequences of my actions.

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.dooly420

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

The fact of the matter is, he's talking down to smokers in sheer arrogance, as if the fact he doesn't smoke somehow elevates above anyone who does. That's pretty twisted...

[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.Funkdaddy13

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

The fact of the matter is, he's talking down to smokers in sheer arrogance, as if the fact he doesn't smoke somehow elevates above anyone who does. That's pretty twisted...

because you're not telling me anything new, I had all the health classses in high school, i know how bad it is, no **** just don't feel like you have to tell me

[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.Funkdaddy13

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

The fact of the matter is, he's talking down to smokers in sheer arrogance, as if the fact he doesn't smoke somehow elevates above anyone who does. That's pretty twisted...

If people only knew what it took to recover their health from disease attributed to smoking(if it didn't end up killing them first), they wouldn't even consider it.

To those that smoke, face the reality:cancer can happen to you, treatment for it is horrific, and it is by no means a guarantee of survival.

Rekunta

As opposed spending an extra 20-30 years alone and in poverty?

*Currently smoking while typing*

I smoke, and enjoy it. I respect those that smoke, as well as I share mutual respect for those that choose not to. All I ask is for respect in return. I do it because I actually enjoy it, for meit's calming on the nerves, andgoes well with a drink. I know the serious ramifications, and I have made my choice. You can call me dumb, and that may be true, but as an individual I am acting on my own free will. Just as those choosing not to smoke act on theirs. I don't condone it, so if you don't smoke, don't start smoking.

worthyofnote

I actually agree with you fully.

No I don't smoke cigs, but I do have a few cigars here and there, it's really relaxing and tastes good (prime times ;) ) I also, if you have paid attention to my other posts in this type of subject,I liketo relax with herbs.

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.dooly420

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

The fact of the matter is, he's talking down to smokers in sheer arrogance, as if the fact he doesn't smoke somehow elevates above anyone who does. That's pretty twisted...

[QUOTE="worthyofnote"]

*Currently smoking while typing*

I smoke, and enjoy it. I respect those that smoke, as well as I share mutual respect for those that choose not to. All I ask is for respect in return. I do it because I actually enjoy it, for meit's calming on the nerves, andgoes well with a drink. I know the serious ramifications, and I have made my choice. You can call me dumb, and that may be true, but as an individual I am acting on my own free will. Just as those choosing not to smoke act on theirs. I don't condone it, so if you don't smoke, don't start smoking.

mark4091

I actually agree with you fully.

No I don't smoke cigs, but I do have a few cigars here and there, it's really relaxing and tastes good (prime times ;) ) I also, if you have paid attention to my other posts in this type of subject,I liketo relax with herbs.

Thank you. And herbs...I know a thing or two about baking with spices...forgive me for the pun. :lol: I only do "that" every now and then. It used to be a regular almost everyday thing, but I started feeling too lazy, and just wanted to take a break from it. So now it's only every so often.

[QUOTE="mark4091"][QUOTE="worthyofnote"]

*Currently smoking while typing*

I smoke, and enjoy it. I respect those that smoke, as well as I share mutual respect for those that choose not to. All I ask is for respect in return. I do it because I actually enjoy it, for meit's calming on the nerves, andgoes well with a drink. I know the serious ramifications, and I have made my choice. You can call me dumb, and that may be true, but as an individual I am acting on my own free will. Just as those choosing not to smoke act on theirs. I don't condone it, so if you don't smoke, don't start smoking.

worthyofnote

I actually agree with you fully.

No I don't smoke cigs, but I do have a few cigars here and there, it's really relaxing and tastes good (prime times ;) ) I also, if you have paid attention to my other posts in this type of subject,I liketo relax with herbs.

Thank you. And herbs...I know a thing or two about baking with spices...forgive me for the pun. :lol: I only do "that" every now and then. It used to be a regular almost everyday thing, but I started feeling too lazy, and just wanted to take a break from it. So now it's only every so often.

i used to smoke two packs of cigs a day, sometimes more. i quit a few years ago and i've had far fewer colds and other respiratory illnesses since then. food tastes better to me than it used to. i have a more refined sense of smell now. i am glad I quit smoking cigarettes.

having said that, i respect other people's decisions when it comes to smoking. i don't think anyone today smokes without being aware of the risks; it's most often someting they choose because they consider the benefits to them to outweigh the risks.

i smoke cigars now, and I have expensive tastes. my humidor is generally well stocked with up to 200 cigars at any given time. i probably smoke one to three per week on average. i love to wind down after a hard day with a great cigar and a good drink before dinner.

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

If people only knew what it took to recover their health from disease attributed to smoking(if it didn't end up killing them first), they wouldn't even consider it.

To those that smoke, face the reality:cancer can happen to you, treatment for it is horrific, and it is by no means a guarantee of survival.

worthyofnote

Already knew that. And alcohol can cause liver damage, but I still enjoy a few drinks too.Cancer can happen to anyone. It seems nowadays everyone can get cancer from the simplest of things, such as the sun for instance. Cancer is defined as a disease which results in the corruption of cells, when those cells multiply into other cells they carry on the disease, and so on and so on. So I already know the possibilities. I know the ramifications and consequences of my actions.

I believe in taking the utmost precautions in avoiding cancer. Eating healthy and doing everything in moderation is one of the best things that you can do, however I don't think that inhaling smoke into the lungs to any degree is healthy whatsoever. Drinking alcohol daily has been shown to have some benefits, has it not? Smoking has as well, but I believe it's prospective longtime risks outweigh the short term benefits (relaxation, etc). Even in moderation smoking is just plain unhealthy.

As someone who went through four years of chemotherapy and radiation for cancer, I think very few people truly understand the ramifications and consequences they may have to deal with. It was always some "other" person to me before my own diagnosis, and while I thought I realized it could happen to me back then, I found out afterwards I had no realization that it actually could. If someone has not gone through something that is bred from a consequence of their actions, they can't possibly understand it.

[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="mark4091"][QUOTE="worthyofnote"]

*Currently smoking while typing*

I smoke, and enjoy it. I respect those that smoke, as well as I share mutual respect for those that choose not to. All I ask is for respect in return. I do it because I actually enjoy it, for meit's calming on the nerves, andgoes well with a drink. I know the serious ramifications, and I have made my choice. You can call me dumb, and that may be true, but as an individual I am acting on my own free will. Just as those choosing not to smoke act on theirs. I don't condone it, so if you don't smoke, don't start smoking.

Funkdaddy13

I actually agree with you fully.

No I don't smoke cigs, but I do have a few cigars here and there, it's really relaxing and tastes good (prime times ;) ) I also, if you have paid attention to my other posts in this type of subject,I liketo relax with herbs.

Thank you. And herbs...I know a thing or two about baking with spices...forgive me for the pun. :lol: I only do "that" every now and then. It used to be a regular almost everyday thing, but I started feeling too lazy, and just wanted to take a break from it. So now it's only every so often.

It really depends on where you're coming from, most people on these forums are from the states, in Canada there really is no big problem with weed, infact in british columbia they may legalize in a year or two.

[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

If people only knew what it took to recover their health from disease attributed to smoking(if it didn't end up killing them first), they wouldn't even consider it.

To those that smoke, face the reality:cancer can happen to you, treatment for it is horrific, and it is by no means a guarantee of survival.

Rekunta

Already knew that. And alcohol can cause liver damage, but I still enjoy a few drinks too.Cancer can happen to anyone. It seems nowadays everyone can get cancer from the simplest of things, such as the sun for instance. Cancer is defined as a disease which results in the corruption of cells, when those cells multiply into other cells they carry on the disease, and so on and so on. So I already know the possibilities. I know the ramifications and consequences of my actions.

I believe in taking the utmost precautions in avoiding cancer. Eating healthy and doing everything in moderation is one of the best things that you can do, however I don't think that inhaling smoke into the lungs to any degree is healthy whatsoever. Drinking alcohol daily has been shown to have some benefits, has it not? Smoking has as well, but I believe it's prospective longtime risks outweigh the short term benefits (relaxation, etc). Even in moderation smoking is just plain unhealthy.

As someone who went through four years of chemotherapy and radiation for cancer, I think very few people truly understand the ramifications and consequences they may have to deal with. It was always some "other" person to me before my own diagnosis, and while I thought I realized it could happen to me back then, I found out afterwards I had no realization that it actually could. If someone has not gone through something that is bred from a consequence of their actions, they can't possibly understand it.

But see, you actually WANT to live, don't you?

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

If people only knew what it took to recover their health from disease attributed to smoking(if it didn't end up killing them first), they wouldn't even consider it.

To those that smoke, face the reality:cancer can happen to you, treatment for it is horrific, and it is by no means a guarantee of survival.

MrGeezer

As opposed spending an extra 20-30 years alone and in poverty?

???

I was referring to the fact that going through treatment for cancer is by no means aguarantee of survival. This isn't a discussion about poverty, it is about smoking.

How are the two interconnected?

It really depends on where you're coming from, most people on these forums are from the states, in Canada there really is no big problem with weed, infact in british columbia they may legalize in a year or two.mark4091

[QUOTE="Rekunta"][QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

If people only knew what it took to recover their health from disease attributed to smoking(if it didn't end up killing them first), they wouldn't even consider it.

To those that smoke, face the reality:cancer can happen to you, treatment for it is horrific, and it is by no means a guarantee of survival.

MrGeezer

Already knew that. And alcohol can cause liver damage, but I still enjoy a few drinks too.Cancer can happen to anyone. It seems nowadays everyone can get cancer from the simplest of things, such as the sun for instance. Cancer is defined as a disease which results in the corruption of cells, when those cells multiply into other cells they carry on the disease, and so on and so on. So I already know the possibilities. I know the ramifications and consequences of my actions.

I believe in taking the utmost precautions in avoiding cancer. Eating healthy and doing everything in moderation is one of the best things that you can do, however I don't think that inhaling smoke into the lungs to any degree is healthy whatsoever. Drinking alcohol daily has been shown to have some benefits, has it not? Smoking has as well, but I believe it's prospective longtime risks outweigh the short term benefits (relaxation, etc). Even in moderation smoking is just plain unhealthy.

As someone who went through four years of chemotherapy and radiation for cancer, I think very few people truly understand the ramifications and consequences they may have to deal with. It was always some "other" person to me before my own diagnosis, and while I thought I realized it could happen to me back then, I found out afterwards I had no realization that it actually could. If someone has not gone through something that is bred from a consequence of their actions, they can't possibly understand it.

But see, you actually WANT to live, don't you?

If you'd asked me that 5 years ago, I would have said no. Today, absolutely.

[QUOTE="mark4091"]It really depends on where you're coming from, most people on these forums are from the states, in Canada there really is no big problem with weed, infact in british columbia they may legalize in a year or two.Mumbles527

OTTAWA, Oct. 4 - Reversing earlier moves to decriminalize marijuana use, Prime Minister Stephen Harper of Canada announced new legal and spending measures against drug use and distribution on Thursday. In 2005, the government, then led by the Liberal Party, introduced legislation to eliminate criminal penalties for possessing small amounts of marijuana. The bill did not pass Parliament before the election that brought Mr. Harper and the Conservatives to power. It was never reintroduced. "Far too long now in Canada, governments have been sending out mixed messages on drugs," Mr. Harper said Thursday. "Canadians hardly know what the law is anymore." To make it clear that drug use is illegal in Canada, he said the government would spend about $64 million on antidrug campaigns and increased enforcement, including mandatory sentences for dealers and smugglers. There will also be increased coordination with the United States, he said.The New York Times

I'm all for harper, but he can't take on weed, a very high percentage of the nation smokes it, it will happen just a matter of time.

It does suck that they're delaying the enevitable though.

[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

If people only knew what it took to recover their health from disease attributed to smoking(if it didn't end up killing them first), they wouldn't even consider it.

To those that smoke, face the reality:cancer can happen to you, treatment for it is horrific, and it is by no means a guarantee of survival.

Rekunta

Already knew that. And alcohol can cause liver damage, but I still enjoy a few drinks too.Cancer can happen to anyone. It seems nowadays everyone can get cancer from the simplest of things, such as the sun for instance. Cancer is defined as a disease which results in the corruption of cells, when those cells multiply into other cells they carry on the disease, and so on and so on. So I already know the possibilities. I know the ramifications and consequences of my actions.

I believe in taking the utmost precautions in avoiding cancer. Eating healthy and doing everything in moderation is one of the best things that you can do, however I don't think that inhaling smoke into the lungs to any degree is healthy whatsoever. Drinking alcohol daily has been shown to have some benefits, has it not? Smoking has as well, but I believe it's prospective longtime risks outweigh the short term benefits (relaxation, etc). Even in moderation smoking is just plain unhealthy.

As someone who went through four years of chemotherapy and radiation for cancer, I think very few people truly understand the ramifications and consequences they may have to deal with. It was always some "other" person to me before my own diagnosis, and while I thought I realized it could happen to me back then, I found out afterwards I had no realization that it actually could.If someone has not gone through something that is bred from a consequence of their actions, they can't possibly understand it.

I can totally agree with you. In everything you had to say above. I am sorry you had to endure such an ordeal.

Maybe I am a part of the very few who truly understand the consequences I would/will have to face somewhere down the line. As I said before, I'm a stupid kid. I'm learning my way in the world and making my ownmistakes, only to breed my own lessons from them. Honestly,I can live that.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

If people only knew what it took to recover their health from disease attributed to smoking(if it didn't end up killing them first), they wouldn't even consider it.

To those that smoke, face the reality:cancer can happen to you, treatment for it is horrific, and it is by no means a guarantee of survival.

Rekunta

As opposed spending an extra 20-30 years alone and in poverty?

???

I was referring to the fact that going through treatment for cancer is by no means aguarantee of survival. This isn't a discussion about poverty, it is about smoking.

How are the two interconnected?

People treat smokers like **** just because they're gonna die early. Have they considered that a lot of smokers DON'T want to live an extra 20 years? Have they considered that a lot of people wished they were dead, but are just too scared to stick a gun in their mouths?

I mean, you seem absolutely incapable of comprehending that a lot of people DON'T want to survive. Do you know anything about the quality of life those people are going to have during the extra 20-30 years that not smoking gives them? A lot of people are ****ing MISERABLE.They have no prospects for the future, and nothing to live for. If having a freaking cigarette pleases them just a TINY bit, who the hell are you to tell them that they should give that up for an extra 20 years of misery?

I ahvent smoked in 30 days, i quit after smoking a lot, its a horrible habit. Weed is fine, i get higha lll the time and hookah really is nothing after ciggaretes, oh and btw, im 15. Deamon321

I'm not one to tell another person how to live their life, because mostly I hate when people do the same to me. I'm going to try and say this as non-condescending as possible. Please be careful and take it easy. Other than that, as long as you know what you're doing to yourself, and you feel you can live with those choices and the consequences that may follow, then so be it.

[QUOTE="Fortier"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Fortier"]Because I have nothing else to do after I get off of work.Funkdaddy13

Yeah, that's true...I think the point is still valid though...Fortier

The fact of the matter is, he's talking down to smokers in sheer arrogance, as if the fact he doesn't smoke somehow elevates above anyone who does. That's pretty twisted...

Everything past the first sentence was completely unnecessary. From the content of my previous post, I have no idea why you think I'm attacking non-smokers. I'm attacking a jerk who thinks he's better than someone else because he's a non-smoker. That's all.