any other non-smokers think banning cig commericals is BS?

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#1 i-rock-socks
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first off, i live in america so it may not be the same in ur country.

and i dont smoke, and i think smoking is one of the stupid things people can do, but i believe its everyones right and yadda yadda yadda.

but my one and only gripe about the BAN on cig commercials and heavy regulations on the ads that are allowed, is that for whatever reason, they dont use the same rules for alchol, which is arguably just as dangerous, and if not, more so.

i dont like either, but i dont think its right to hinder both, let alone one and not the other, which is just hypocritical.

like i said, it doesnt really affect me, its just a matter of principle .

what do you think?

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#2 Chow_Mein_Kampf
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Yep.........Load of bollocks........

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#3 Necrifer
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Yeah, it's pretty dumb.

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#4 Blue-Sky
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I think the cigarette industry should die.

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#5 coolbeans90
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As a smoker, you will not find me voicing opposition.

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#6 Fightingfan
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I think it should be illegal everywhere public(outside), but in the case of privately owned places (restaurants) I think it should be at the discretion of the owner of the establishment.

Though I would presume that would hurt business, but it would be at the owners own expensive. e.g I'm sure Apple-bees would be non-smoking to promote families, families spend more money, but a pub would be smoking.

Here in Florida it's illegal to smoke in any building federal, or a building that serves food.

*At least that's my take on it.

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#7 TacticalDesire
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In a way yes, but I guess the thought is that they'll be advertising to and convincing people who don't know the dangers of smoking...who those people might be I'm not sure, but yeah.

In a way it'd be akin to seeing commercials for anabolic steroids telling people how great they can be. I'm not sure it should really be banned, but it airing commercials for them also seems kind of eh.

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first off, i live in america so it may not be the same in ur country.

and i dont smoke, and i think smoking is one of the stupid things people can do, but i believe its everyones right and yadda yadda yadda.

but my one and only gripe about the BAN on cig commercials and heavy regulations on the ads that are allowed, is that for whatever reason, they dont use the same rules for alchol, which is arguably just as dangerous, and if not, more so.

i dont like either, but i dont think its right to hinder both, let alone one and not the other, which is just hypocritical.

like i said, it doesnt really affect me, its just a matter of principle .

what do you think?

i-rock-socks
Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous Any form of smoking is
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#9 worlock77
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As a smoker I can't really say I give a f*ck.

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#10 Fightingfan
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anabolic steroids telling people how great they can be. I'm not sure it should really be banned, but it airing commercials for them also seems kind of eh.TacticalDesire
The media is hypocritical when it comes to anabolic steroids, it's ok for Olympic athletes to use Cortisol(which is a roid), but they can't touch testosterone. It's utter bullsh*t cortisol gives an unfair advantage, it lubricates the joints so your physical endurance is boosted, which results in less fatigue via ligaments stress.
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#11 TopTierHustler
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No, and who cares what smokers care about?

They made terrible life decisions......

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#12 CHOASXIII
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Yeah it is stupid really but I don't care either way.

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#13 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous Any form of smoking is

Physically any consumption of alcohol is negative, but I see your point. Alcohol is a poison to the body, prevents the digestion of food and promotes dehydration.
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous Any form of smoking isFightingfan
Physically any consumption of alcohol is negative, but I see your point. Alcohol is a poison to the body, prevents the digestion of food and promotes dehydration.

Red Wine?

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous Any form of smoking isFightingfan
Physically any consumption of alcohol is negative,

And positive. Though the jury is still out, moderate (not excessive) consumption of alcohol seems to be a net positive. The same obviously can't be said for smoking.

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#16 XilePrincess
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I can't actually remember the last time I saw a TV ad promoting cigarettes. I guess it's banned here in Canada. I don't really care honestly. I would rather see less booze commercials. Some of the beer ones are funny, but the rest are just skankily dressed women. If you want to smoke and drink or don't, I don't think commercial advertising is going to really have that big of an impact on you as an adult. The point of it is that they're trying to keep it off the air so KIDS don't see it, because they ARE impressionable. Just keep all that sh*t off the air, or at least keep it off until 10 pm+. It's unnecessary to have it at any time children should be watching TV. Print ads in magazines geared towards adults, maybe.
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#17 metroidfood
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I think the cigarette industry should die.

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#18 konvikt_17
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either way it dont mean sh!t.

the people who are smoking, arent going to stop smoking due to a commercial.

and young kids who start smoking arent going to listen to a dumb commercial.

its just wasted ad space, and serves no purpose as no one takes them seriously.

if your gonna smoke, your gonna smoke, a commercial is not going to change that.

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#19 soulless4now
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Yeah it is stupid really but I don't care either way.

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#20 Novotine
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous Any form of smoking is

Physically any consumption of alcohol is negative, but I see your point. Alcohol is a poison to the body, prevents the digestion of food and promotes dehydration.

but its effects on the brain make it fun and worthwhile
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#21 konvikt_17
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wait what is this thread about?

commercials promoting cigarettes, or the opposite?

my post was aimed at the commercials trying to keep us from smoking.

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#22 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous Any form of smoking iscoolbeans90

Physically any consumption of alcohol is negative,

And positive. Though the jury is still out, moderate (not excessive) consumption of alcohol seems to be a net positive. The same obviously can't be said for smoking.

True. Theoretically just inhaling any form of combustion(CO/CO2 over prolong time(years) can cause Hypercapnia which can lead to lung disease/cancer/asthma.
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#23 Toxic-Seahorse
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No, why would it be? It's bad enough that it's still legal, I don't want to have to watch people try to convince me to harm myself.

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#24 Bikouchu35
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It just happened to be banned, and my stance is that I could care less.

As a smoker, I am actually glad, so I won't have the urge to go whenever I see ads on tv.

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#25 jesuschristmonk
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1. Yeah. It is BS.

2. I truly don't care lol.

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#26 jdc6305
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I was born in the 70's. I remember cigarette commerials all over the place when I was younger on tv billboards t-shirts ect. I'm 36 years old and I've been smoking for 22 years. When I first started I could walk into any store in my area at age 14 and buy cigarettes for $160 a pack. I watched my grandfather die from throat cancer and my grandmother from lung cancer. After 22 years I can really feel it catching up with me. I feel like S$*& all the time and my heart is starting to flip out on a regular basis. I really feel it's quit or die time for me. I'm only 36 I never thought problems would hit me so young.

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#27 Celldrax
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My dad died from smoking... so I am not a personal fan of it (tbh, I never really saw its appeal anyway). And I understand that it's everyone's right. But I just don't want to be anywhere near that stuff.

And as for drinking (for me at least), the consumption of alcohol from others has no personal effect on me. The problem with alcohol is that too many people are just stupid, and binge.

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#28 VanHelsingBoA64
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I don't really mind.
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#29 NirdBerd
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I don't care but, cigarette and even alcohol commercials are really delightful to watch (well the old alcohol ones that is).

But I don't watch TV anyway so whatever

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first off, i live in america so it may not be the same in ur country.

and i dont smoke, and i think smoking is one of the stupid things people can do, but i believe its everyones right and yadda yadda yadda.

but my one and only gripe about the BAN on cig commercials and heavy regulations on the ads that are allowed, is that for whatever reason, they dont use the same rules for alchol, which is arguably just as dangerous, and if not, more so.

i dont like either, but i dont think its right to hinder both, let alone one and not the other, which is just hypocritical.

like i said, it doesnt really affect me, its just a matter of principle .

what do you think?

i-rock-socks
I think you're an idiot. Alcohol in moderation is not only fine, but healthy. Cigs are not, in any sense.
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Why smoke cigarettes?

Take up Pipe Smoking instead.

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#32 MrGeezer
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I think the cigarette industry should die.

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The government ought to just kill it, instead of saying that it's bad while continuing to take money from it. Seriously...I say this as a smoker. If the $*** is so freaking dangerous that the people selling the product can't even legally advertise it, then it might be time to stop allowing people to SELL IT.
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#33 i-rock-socks
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[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]

first off, i live in america so it may not be the same in ur country.

and i dont smoke, and i think smoking is one of the stupid things people can do, but i believe its everyones right and yadda yadda yadda.

but my one and only gripe about the BAN on cig commercials and heavy regulations on the ads that are allowed, is that for whatever reason, they dont use the same rules for alchol, which is arguably just as dangerous, and if not, more so.

i dont like either, but i dont think its right to hinder both, let alone one and not the other, which is just hypocritical.

like i said, it doesnt really affect me, its just a matter of principle .

what do you think?

chaoscougar1

Alcohol in moderation is not dangerous Any form of smoking is

tell ur liver that

also, hows it anyones buisness what others decide to do. and im not go into details on that point cause... well who cares (everyone already knows anything i could say about that)

but more importantly, what kind of fairy dream world are you living in were you can say with a straight face "its okay in moderation". the amount you would have to drink to hypothetically have no ill effects and get the "good" effects is less than a sippy cup (depending on what ur drinking). its like saying cocaine is fine because if you take it in moderation it can be beneficial. unfortunately we live in the real world and most people dont even know how much "moderate" is.

you can say all day "well, in moderation" but in our reality, "moderation" is more hypothetical than alcohols positive effects.

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I'm against them spreading false information about their product But I guess I'm apathetic over them simply making commercials. This is added by the fact that they prob make more money from being prohibited from advertising on radio, TV, etc. in the first place.
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[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]

first off, i live in america so it may not be the same in ur country.

and i dont smoke, and i think smoking is one of the stupid things people can do, but i believe its everyones right and yadda yadda yadda.

but my one and only gripe about the BAN on cig commercials and heavy regulations on the ads that are allowed, is that for whatever reason, they dont use the same rules for alchol, which is arguably just as dangerous, and if not, more so.

i dont like either, but i dont think its right to hinder both, let alone one and not the other, which is just hypocritical.

like i said, it doesnt really affect me, its just a matter of principle .

what do you think?

TheWalkingGhost
I think you're an idiot. Alcohol in moderation is not only fine, but healthy. Cigs are not, in any sense.

just because some of its side effects are good doesnt mean its healthy, but seeing how childish ur response was, i doubt u can comprehend that.
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#36 konvikt_17
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Why smoke cigarettes?

Take up Pipe Smoking instead.

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Nuck81

wouldnt that be worse?

with cigarettes, the filter, filters out some stuff.

with a pipe, there is no filter.

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#37 konvikt_17
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]

first off, i live in america so it may not be the same in ur country.

and i dont smoke, and i think smoking is one of the stupid things people can do, but i believe its everyones right and yadda yadda yadda.

but my one and only gripe about the BAN on cig commercials and heavy regulations on the ads that are allowed, is that for whatever reason, they dont use the same rules for alchol, which is arguably just as dangerous, and if not, more so.

i dont like either, but i dont think its right to hinder both, let alone one and not the other, which is just hypocritical.

like i said, it doesnt really affect me, its just a matter of principle .

what do you think?

i-rock-socks

I think you're an idiot. Alcohol in moderation is not only fine, but healthy. Cigs are not, in any sense.

just because some of its side effects are good doesnt mean its healthy, but seeing how childish ur response was, i doubt u can comprehend that.

but in moderation it can be healthy.

which was his whole point.

anything can be bad if you overindulge.

but when used in moderation, is just fine.

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[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]I think you're an idiot. Alcohol in moderation is not only fine, but healthy. Cigs are not, in any sense.konvikt_17

just because some of its side effects are good doesnt mean its healthy, but seeing how childish ur response was, i doubt u can comprehend that.

but in moderation it can be healthy.

which was his whole point.

anything can be bad if you overindulge.

but when used in moderation, is just fine.

cocaine would be fine in moderation, should we trust people to restrain themselves? if not, why is it ok to stop cocaine use and not booze?
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#39 konvikt_17
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[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"] just because some of its side effects are good doesnt mean its healthy, but seeing how childish ur response was, i doubt u can comprehend that.i-rock-socks

but in moderation it can be healthy.

which was his whole point.

anything can be bad if you overindulge.

but when used in moderation, is just fine.

cocaine would be fine in moderation, should we trust people to restrain themselves? if not, why is it ok to stop cocaine use and not booze?

who the hell mentioned cocaine?

your a dumbass for even comparing cocaine to alcohol.

seeing how childish your response was, i doubt you can comprehend that.

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Other than the annoying smell second hand smoke health problems are wildly exaggerated.

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#41 i-rock-socks
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[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

but in moderation it can be healthy.

which was his whole point.

anything can be bad if you overindulge.

but when used in moderation, is just fine.

konvikt_17

cocaine would be fine in moderation, should we trust people to restrain themselves? if not, why is it ok to stop cocaine use and not booze?

who the hell mentioned cocaine?

your a dumbass for even comparing cocaine to alcohol.

seeing how childish your response was, i doubt you can comprehend that.

lol call others names, i guess that means ur right :roll: the fact is YOU dont really now what ur talking about, im not gonna go into cocaine's entire rich history, but if u werent retarded (i assume) you would now that comparison is more than justified. but w/e, talk **** thatll end the debate... i think ill try it. how can i talk **** in a way that ur monkey brain can understand it... it'll come to me.
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[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

but in moderation it can be healthy.

which was his whole point.

anything can be bad if you overindulge.

but when used in moderation, is just fine.

konvikt_17

cocaine would be fine in moderation, should we trust people to restrain themselves? if not, why is it ok to stop cocaine use and not booze?

who the hell mentioned cocaine?

your a dumbass for even comparing cocaine to alcohol.

seeing how childish your response was, i doubt you can comprehend that.

Owned. And that fact he said it doesn't mean it's healthy further shows why I called him what I did. That cocaine to alcohol comparison was just moronic...Wait, I am insulting the intelligence of him again after he made a stupid comment.....I must be acting childish. :roll: BTW, him questioning my ability to comprehend something was comedy, since he made multiple grammatical errors in that comment. And yes, alcohol in moderation is healthy, but you seem to get that. Kudos.
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#43 i-rock-socks
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Other than the annoying smell second hand smoke health problems are wildly exaggerated.

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tell that to the unkempt killing fields full of dead waitresses; which is why they outlawd smoking in diners, and eventually everywhere else.
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[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]cocaine would be fine in moderation, should we trust people to restrain themselves? if not, why is it ok to stop cocaine use and not booze?TheWalkingGhost

who the hell mentioned cocaine?

your a dumbass for even comparing cocaine to alcohol.

seeing how childish your response was, i doubt you can comprehend that.

Owned. And that fact he said it doesn't mean it's healthy further shows why I called him what I did. That cocaine to alcohol comparison was just moronic...Wait, I am insulting the intelligence of him again after he made a stupid comment.....I must be acting childish. :roll: BTW, him questioning my ability to comprehend something was comedy, since he made multiple grammatical errors in that comment. And yes, alcohol in moderation is healthy, but you seem to get that. Kudos.

children usually agree with other children, and not with adults
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[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]cocaine would be fine in moderation, should we trust people to restrain themselves? if not, why is it ok to stop cocaine use and not booze?i-rock-socks

who the hell mentioned cocaine?

your a dumbass for even comparing cocaine to alcohol.

seeing how childish your response was, i doubt you can comprehend that.

lol call others names, i guess that means ur right :roll: the fact is YOU dont really now what ur talking about, im not gonna go into cocaine's entire rich history, but if u werent retarded (i assume) you would now that comparison is more than justified. but w/e, talk **** thatll end the debate... i think ill try it. how can i talk **** in a way that ur monkey brain can understand it... it'll come to me.

If you are trying to prove you're more mature...Well, you failed miserably. Tell me, can crack clear your arteries? Wine can. As long as you don't over do it, a little booze is good for you and even encouraged.
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#46 TheWalkingGhost
Member since 2012 • 6092 Posts
[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

who the hell mentioned cocaine?

your a dumbass for even comparing cocaine to alcohol.

seeing how childish your response was, i doubt you can comprehend that.

i-rock-socks
Owned. And that fact he said it doesn't mean it's healthy further shows why I called him what I did. That cocaine to alcohol comparison was just moronic...Wait, I am insulting the intelligence of him again after he made a stupid comment.....I must be acting childish. :roll: BTW, him questioning my ability to comprehend something was comedy, since he made multiple grammatical errors in that comment. And yes, alcohol in moderation is healthy, but you seem to get that. Kudos.

children usually agree with other children, and not with adults

Are you done crying now? Was this little hissy fit you just threw really needed?
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#47 konvikt_17
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[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]cocaine would be fine in moderation, should we trust people to restrain themselves? if not, why is it ok to stop cocaine use and not booze?i-rock-socks

who the hell mentioned cocaine?

your a dumbass for even comparing cocaine to alcohol.

seeing how childish your response was, i doubt you can comprehend that.

lol call others names, i guess that means ur right :roll: the fact is YOU dont really now what ur talking about, im not gonna go into cocaine's entire rich history, but if u werent retarded (i assume) you would now that comparison is more than justified. but w/e, talk **** thatll end the debate... i think ill try it. how can i talk **** in a way that ur monkey brain can understand it... it'll come to me.

:lol:

ah, so you can call people names and its alright, but oh no, someone called you a name and thats not ok.

please, do tell me how alcohol is comparable to cocaine.
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oh and just a fyi, useing the R-word(R*****ed) is a moddable offense. be careful with that;)

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#48 i-rock-socks
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[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

who the hell mentioned cocaine?

your a dumbass for even comparing cocaine to alcohol.

seeing how childish your response was, i doubt you can comprehend that.

TheWalkingGhost
lol call others names, i guess that means ur right :roll: the fact is YOU dont really now what ur talking about, im not gonna go into cocaine's entire rich history, but if u werent retarded (i assume) you would now that comparison is more than justified. but w/e, talk **** thatll end the debate... i think ill try it. how can i talk **** in a way that ur monkey brain can understand it... it'll come to me.

If you are trying to prove you're more mature...Well, you failed miserably. Tell me, can crack clear your arteries? Wine can. As long as you don't over do it, a little booze is good for you and even encouraged.

im impressed someone can read the fun facts on their snapple
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#49 TheWalkingGhost
Member since 2012 • 6092 Posts

[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

who the hell mentioned cocaine?

your a dumbass for even comparing cocaine to alcohol.

seeing how childish your response was, i doubt you can comprehend that.

konvikt_17

lol call others names, i guess that means ur right :roll: the fact is YOU dont really now what ur talking about, im not gonna go into cocaine's entire rich history, but if u werent retarded (i assume) you would now that comparison is more than justified. but w/e, talk **** thatll end the debate... i think ill try it. how can i talk **** in a way that ur monkey brain can understand it... it'll come to me.

:lol:

ah, so you can call people names and its alright, but oh no, someone called you a name and thats not ok.

please, do tell me how alcohol is comparable to cocaine.
IyEcreAUdU6H3IY7qRToJg2.gif

oh and just a fyi, useing the R-word(R*****ed) is a moddable offense. be careful with that;)

Read his reply to me with the snapple remark. He really isn't worth your time. He got insulted once and decided to throw a fit.
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#50 junglist101
Member since 2007 • 5517 Posts

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Other than the annoying smell second hand smoke health problems are wildly exaggerated.

i-rock-socks

tell that to the unkempt killing fields full of dead waitresses; which is why they outlawd smoking in diners, and eventually everywhere else.

Sarcasm?