Any smokers out there?

My half brother and father have smoked for upwards two decades and they're starting to resemble m grandparents despite the fact my brother is just recently turning 30, perhaps I'll learn from their mistakes, or maybe the nicotine craving is hereditary.

DiabeticVampire

[QUOTE="HellsAngel2c"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

Wait a second here.. as a non smoker I'm not allowed to tell you that smoking is stupid? While you're allowed to tell me how awesome smoking is and why people should have pride in smoking? This is hardly a fair topic. IF I see somebody engaging in a behavior I find offensive.. or unnecessary. I will tell them so.. Especially if they want to act like it's the best thing in the world. IF you want to smoke fine.. I get it.. but what I don't get is why you have to talk about it and act like it's great. IT reminds me of the whole fat pride thing.. Because I don't want to live a healthy life style I'll embrace the fact I have bad habits. Doesn't make sense to me.

IT really boggles my mind why people only want one sided conversations about something. OH, lets talk about smoking.. but you're not allowed to talk about the negatives. Seriously?

tofu-lion91

Same here, I'm an considerate as I can be around non-smokers but do I get a bit of slack for it? No do I sod.

I can't stand the anti-smoking crusade - I don't come round to your houses, slap the burger out your hand and tell you how disgusting you are. So I expect to be treated like an average joe, not a social outcast thanks.

How the hell do people find smoking offensive?! ARGHH

Why do people think that others are on some form of crusade because they disagree with somebody else behavior? It's pretty unreasonable to expect people to shut up and say nothing when somebody is doing something you don't approve of. OH, EMOEVOLUTION, why can't you just be more friendly and get along with everyone? All my life people give me that nonsense. I have and always will challenge people to go outside of their comfort zones. I don't need to be friends with people who have a problem with that. The problem with majority of society is they're too complacent. I can respect you as a person. and I'm doing so by questioning your behavior.

Anyways, answer that question how you want.. but we all ready know the answer to why you and anyone else in this generation starts smoking.. and it's not because it tastes good. IT's because you believe it'll make you look more mature and fit into social circles.. once you develop the habit of smoking you'll go out of your way to justify it even though it defies any form of logic or rationality.

I love to smoke, but its like a bug that bites you. WenI startedI was like yeah Ill only smoke here and there. Just like whenI started to gauge my ears, I was like yeah Ill just put them up to like a 2 and be happy. That didn't last. I got them up to 3/4th and I finally knocked it off after i blew my left ear out. Its much easier to quit gauging my ears that to quit smoking. I dont encourage youngsters or even people older than I to start smoking haha. It gets expensive and people give you crap for it. But I dont care, I go rite along with smoking. Its what I do. Big plus, My non smoking girlfriend dont mind it at all =D

Ooh and I thought I'd treat myself to a nice Zippo...arrived in the post yesterday :)

Ooh and I thought I'd treat myself to a nice Zippo...arrived in the post yesterday :)

tofu-lion91

Nice lighter Tofu. I've been carrying a Zippo for 20 years or so. Belonged to my Dad. I live in windy Kansas and its great to be able to light up in the wind when all the smokers with butane lighters struggle to get lit.

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

Wait a second here.. as a non smoker I'm not allowed to tell you that smoking is stupid? While you're allowed to tell me how awesome smoking is and why people should have pride in smoking? This is hardly a fair topic. IF I see somebody engaging in a behavior I find offensive.. or unnecessary. I will tell them so.. Especially if they want to act like it's the best thing in the world. IF you want to smoke fine.. I get it.. but what I don't get is why you have to talk about it and act like it's great. IT reminds me of the whole fat pride thing.. Because I don't want to live a healthy life style I'll embrace the fact I have bad habits. Doesn't make sense to me.

IT really boggles my mind why people only want one sided conversations about something. OH, lets talk about smoking.. but you're not allowed to talk about the negatives. Seriously?

HellsAngel2c

how do you know it was a fake cough? One of the rudest things anybody can do is smoke around somebody who doesn't want you smoking around them. You're polluting their air space. And it's not right to expect them to leave when you're the one who introducing the pollution. you do know that smoking and second hand smoke contributes directly to many of the allergy probables people face in our society.

you do know that smoking and second hand smoke contributes directly to many of the allergy probables people face in our society.

EMOEVOLUTION

You do know that cigarette taxes pay for the govt provided health insurance for poor kids, right? And yet, we get no love.

My state collects over $250 million from cigs every year. And we only have approx 2 million people in our state. Now our governor wants to jack up the tax another 50 or 60 cents a pack. I'm going to start driving down to Oklahoma to buy my smokes. Not to save any money, but rather just to deny these ungrateful politicians my tax money.

[QUOTE="HellsAngel2c"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

Wait a second here.. as a non smoker I'm not allowed to tell you that smoking is stupid? While you're allowed to tell me how awesome smoking is and why people should have pride in smoking? This is hardly a fair topic. IF I see somebody engaging in a behavior I find offensive.. or unnecessary. I will tell them so.. Especially if they want to act like it's the best thing in the world. IF you want to smoke fine.. I get it.. but what I don't get is why you have to talk about it and act like it's great. IT reminds me of the whole fat pride thing.. Because I don't want to live a healthy life style I'll embrace the fact I have bad habits. Doesn't make sense to me.

IT really boggles my mind why people only want one sided conversations about something. OH, lets talk about smoking.. but you're not allowed to talk about the negatives. Seriously?

EMOEVOLUTION

how do you know it was a fake cough? One of the rudest things anybody can do is smoke around somebody who doesn't want you smoking around them. You're polluting their air space. And it's not right to expect them to leave when you're the one who introducing the pollution. you do know that smoking and second hand smoke contributes directly to many of the allergy probables people face in our society.

It's very easy to spot a fake cough. When i'm standing around and somebody is smoking I never get a fistful of smoke going down my throught whuch would make me caugh.

Nice lighter Tofu. I've been carrying a Zippo for 20 years or so. Belonged to my Dad. I live in windy Kansas and its great to be able to light up in the wind when all the smokers with butane lighters struggle to get lit.collegeboy64

how do you know it was a fake cough? One of the rudest things anybody can do is smoke around somebody who doesn't want you smoking around them. You're polluting their air space. And it's not right to expect them to leave when you're the one who introducing the pollution. you do know that smoking and second hand smoke contributes directly to many of the allergy probables people face in our society.EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="HellsAngel2c"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

Wait a second here.. as a non smoker I'm not allowed to tell you that smoking is stupid? While you're allowed to tell me how awesome smoking is and why people should have pride in smoking? This is hardly a fair topic. IF I see somebody engaging in a behavior I find offensive.. or unnecessary. I will tell them so.. Especially if they want to act like it's the best thing in the world. IF you want to smoke fine.. I get it.. but what I don't get is why you have to talk about it and act like it's great. IT reminds me of the whole fat pride thing.. Because I don't want to live a healthy life style I'll embrace the fact I have bad habits. Doesn't make sense to me.

IT really boggles my mind why people only want one sided conversations about something. OH, lets talk about smoking.. but you're not allowed to talk about the negatives. Seriously?

how do you know it was a fake cough? One of the rudest things anybody can do is smoke around somebody who doesn't want you smoking around them. You're polluting their air space. And it's not right to expect them to leave when you're the one who introducing the pollution. you do know that smoking and second hand smoke contributes directly to many of the allergy probables people face in our society.

[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]

Ooh and I thought I'd treat myself to a nice Zippo...arrived in the post yesterday :)

Nice lighter Tofu. I've been carrying a Zippo for 20 years or so. Belonged to my Dad. I live in windy Kansas and its great to be able to light up in the wind when all the smokers with butane lighters struggle to get lit.

Smoking tobaco when your under 18 is not illegal TC (at least not here). I don't smoke cigarettes but I do smoke other things as well as cigars on occasions.

[QUOTE="JuggaloRandall"] Dude, I made this form for the smokers to talk about smoking. Not for people like you to wine and complain. Do you need a hug?tofu-lion91

[QUOTE="collegeboy64"]Nice lighter Tofu. I've been carrying a Zippo for 20 years or so. Belonged to my Dad. I live in windy Kansas and its great to be able to light up in the wind when all the smokers with butane lighters struggle to get lit.tofu-lion91

Sorry, no pics. But its nothing to look at, really. Its just a plain chrome one. Beat all to hell, but it still works.

The trick to refilling is to not wait till its dry. I fill my every monday morning. Just give it a good long squirt and don't get greedy.

The trick to refilling is to not wait till its dry. I fill my every monday morning. Just give it a good long squirt and don't get greedy.collegeboy64

[QUOTE="collegeboy64"]

[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]

Ooh and I thought I'd treat myself to a nice Zippo...arrived in the post yesterday :)

JuggaloRandall

Nice lighter Tofu. I've been carrying a Zippo for 20 years or so. Belonged to my Dad. I live in windy Kansas and its great to be able to light up in the wind when all the smokers with butane lighters struggle to get lit.

i smoke the green. much more healthier than cigs and its use goes far beyond that of just being another vice for humans.

I have before, but it's in my best interest not to, so I never made a habit of it. I have asthma, and my family has a history of heart disease.

Also, my grandma spend 15 years on oxygen and just died last year from lung cancer. Pretty good motivation not to if you ask me.

I don't smoke. I hate it when smokers light a cigarette around me, for example, while I'm waiting for the bus. No manners, Christ.super_mario_128

[QUOTE="JuggaloRandall"][QUOTE="collegeboy64"]

Nice lighter Tofu. I've been carrying a Zippo for 20 years or so. Belonged to my Dad. I live in windy Kansas and its great to be able to light up in the wind when all the smokers with butane lighters struggle to get lit.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]I don't smoke. I hate it when smokers light a cigarette around me, for example, while I'm waiting for the bus. No manners, Christ.JuggaloRandall

[QUOTE="JuggaloRandall"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"]I don't smoke. I hate it when smokers light a cigarette around me, for example, while I'm waiting for the bus. No manners, Christ.super_mario_128

You seem to have a problem sharing the earth with the rest of us, second hand smoke is not gonna kill you. You make it sound like whoever lights up a cigarette next to you is about to light up a stick of dynamite and blow you both to hell. You would take a couple steps back it the bus next to you pukes out a huge puff of black smoke of of its exhaust. Why not a cigarette?

[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]

[QUOTE="HellsAngel2c"] S maybe because most smokers, whereever we go, get some form of slack for smoking. I mean, the other day I was smoking outside by a bus stop and the wind kept blowing the smoke in the direction of some lady who felt no shame in doing 'the cough'. Y'know- fake coughing to make a point. I can't stand those peopleEMOEVOLUTION

Same here, I'm an considerate as I can be around non-smokers but do I get a bit of slack for it? No do I sod.

I can't stand the anti-smoking crusade - I don't come round to your houses, slap the burger out your hand and tell you how disgusting you are. So I expect to be treated like an average joe, not a social outcast thanks.

How the hell do people find smoking offensive?! ARGHH

Why do people think that others are on some form of crusade because they disagree with somebody else behavior? It's pretty unreasonable to expect people to shut up and say nothing when somebody is doing something you don't approve of. OH, EMOEVOLUTION, why can't you just be more friendly and get along with everyone? All my life people give me that nonsense. I have and always will challenge people to go outside of their comfort zones. I don't need to be friends with people who have a problem with that. The problem with majority of society is they're too complacent. I can respect you as a person. and I'm doing so by questioning your behavior.

Anyways, answer that question how you want.. but we all ready know the answer to why you and anyone else in this generation starts smoking.. and it's not because it tastes good. IT's because you believe it'll make you look more mature and fit into social circles.. once you develop the habit of smoking you'll go out of your way to justify it even though it defies any form of logic or rationality.

I was 11 when I started smoking. So I didn't really have a circle to try to fit into since I was the first person in my grade to start smoking. My best friend is 1 year older than me and he stole some from his Dad. That's how I started smoking. At the time I had no clue how bad it was for you. I found it fun for whatever reason, I guess blowing the smoke out trying to blow smoke rings is what interested me the most. Now that dosen't have anything to do with the reasons you just stated does it?

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="JuggaloRandall"] How do they possibly know that your a non smoker? Its not like your wearing a large neon sign saying "I don't smoke". And why is it that you always hear somebody compalin about smokers at bus stops? Besides, the open air is EVERYBODYS. Not just yours. Take a couple steps back if you hate it so much.JuggaloRandall

You seem to have a problem sharing the earth with the rest of us, second hand smoke is not gonna kill you. You make it sound like whoever lights up a cigarette next to you is about to light up a stick of dynamite and blow you both to hell. You would take a couple steps back it the bus next to you pukes out a huge puff of black smoke of of its exhaust. Why not a cigarette?

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]I don't smoke. I hate it when smokers light a cigarette around me, for example, while I'm waiting for the bus. No manners, Christ.JuggaloRandall

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"] I'm not obliged to take a few steps away when you choose to smoke near me. You are obliged to show manners enough not to force me to either breathe that crap or get the **** out of the way, though. It doesn't matter whether I'm a non-smoker or not; for Christ's sake be considerate.tofu-lion91

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="JuggaloRandall"] How do they possibly know that your a non smoker? Its not like your wearing a large neon sign saying "I don't smoke". And why is it that you always hear somebody compalin about smokers at bus stops? Besides, the open air is EVERYBODYS. Not just yours. Take a couple steps back if you hate it so much.JuggaloRandall

You seem to have a problem sharing the earth with the rest of us, second hand smoke is not gonna kill you. You make it sound like whoever lights up a cigarette next to you is about to light up a stick of dynamite and blow you both to hell. You would take a couple steps back it the bus next to you pukes out a huge puff of black smoke of of its exhaust. Why not a cigarette?

Why did you start smoking to begin with? What's the point in smoking? Please, enlighten me?

Why do people think that others are on some form of crusade because they disagree with somebody else behavior? It's pretty unreasonable to expect people to shut up and say nothing when somebody is doing something you don't approve of. OH, EMOEVOLUTION, why can't you just be more friendly and get along with everyone? All my life people give me that nonsense. I have and always will challenge people to go outside of their comfort zones. I don't need to be friends with people who have a problem with that. The problem with majority of society is they're too complacent. I can respect you as a person. and I'm doing so by questioning your behavior.

Anyways, answer that question how you want.. but we all ready know the answer to why you and anyone else in this generation starts smoking.. and it's not because it tastes good. IT's because you believe it'll make you look more mature and fit into social circles.. once you develop the habit of smoking you'll go out of your way to justify it even though it defies any form of logic or rationality.

EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="JuggaloRandall"] Honestly I feel that the whole cancer thing is a valid argument, It is very possible that I could get cancer from smoking. But its a decision I made a long time ago, and to be quite honest im not too happy about it now. Thanks for your concern.JuggaloRandall

yeah the whole "hope you don't get cancer" thing is played out... I was well aware of the health risk and didn't care. I quit for financial reasons.

Why did you start smoking to begin with? What's the point in smoking? Please, enlighten me?

Why do people think that others are on some form of crusade because they disagree with somebody else behavior? It's pretty unreasonable to expect people to shut up and say nothing when somebody is doing something you don't approve of. OH, EMOEVOLUTION, why can't you just be more friendly and get along with everyone? All my life people give me that nonsense. I have and always will challenge people to go outside of their comfort zones. I don't need to be friends with people who have a problem with that. The problem with majority of society is they're too complacent. I can respect you as a person. and I'm doing so by questioning your behavior.

Anyways, answer that question how you want.. but we all ready know the answer to why you and anyone else in this generation starts smoking.. and it's not because it tastes good. IT's because you believe it'll make you look more mature and fit into social circles.. once you develop the habit of smoking you'll go out of your way to justify it even though it defies any form of logic or rationality.

EMOEVOLUTION

Actually, I started smoking not because of peer pressure or looking cool, but I just wanted to try it once. And you know what... it DID taste good, and I enjoyed the lil' head rush you get from your first few ciggies. Then it was just habit, but not one I consider 'bad' at that. To be frank, I find people with horrid table manners worse than smokers.

I like smoking. I don't do it myself but it certainly helps the human race win a few more Darwin awards. Since natural selection has been defeated by our dedication to keeping every human alive, the gene pools are not being thinned out by Survival of the Fittest... thus humanity is slowly DE-volving. smoking is one of the few things that will keep us progressing. keep at it smokers =)metroid_dragon

Isn't it ironic that they use the taxes from smokers to facilitate the defeat of the natural selection process? You know, they use the taxes from cigarettes to pay for all sorts of social programs. My personal favorite is providing health insurance to poor children. I mean, lets face it, being poor would be a much more challenging, and gene-pool-thinning experience if it weren't for all the social safety net.

So, while us smokers may be doing our part to thin the herd, so to speak, the government is defeating our efforts by taxing the crap out of our habit and spending it to keep some weaker members of the herd alive.

I don't smoke. But I like the idea of smoking. I have quite a few smoker friends and it's not an issue. I quite like the smell. But I choose not to, because of 1) health 2) money 3) parents.

[QUOTE="metroid_dragon"]I like smoking. I don't do it myself but it certainly helps the human race win a few more Darwin awards. Since natural selection has been defeated by our dedication to keeping every human alive, the gene pools are not being thinned out by Survival of the Fittest... thus humanity is slowly DE-volving. smoking is one of the few things that will keep us progressing. keep at it smokers =)collegeboy64

Isn't it ironic that they use the taxes from smokers to facilitate the defeat of the natural selection process? You know, they use the taxes from cigarettes to pay for all sorts of social programs. My personal favorite is providing health insurance to poor children. I mean, lets face it, being poor would be a much more challenging, and gene-pool-thinning experience if it weren't for all the social safety net.

So, while us smokers may be doing our part to thin the herd, so to speak, the government is defeating our efforts by taxing the crap out of our habit and spending it to keep some weaker members of the herd alive.

I've been told I smoke like a chimney, but I say that doesn't quite do me justice. I smoke like a factory who's soul product is smoke, and is run by people who are dedicated to the business of producing smoke.