Anyone else depressed about the next election?

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry, not the same. But they do share the same intentions. Except Perry has actually gone through with it:

• Doubled Texas Debt
• Doubled Texas gov't
• Raised taxes
• Mandated HPV vaccine

Seems to me that fiscal conservatives are giant hypocrites if they vote Perry over Obama for fiscal reasons.

DroidPhysX

And Perry is a very flawed candidate and yet would be an upgrade over Obama. Like I said Obama reached his level of incompetence with the Presidency.

You actually think I support Obama in 2012.

Oh dear. Though thanks for rebutting the facts about Rick Perry. Seems like a solid fiscal conservative when you look at his recrod.

Well to be fair you do seem a bit biased against religious people, radical or otherwise, and you do seem to often rally behind Obama alot.

Not calling you out or anything like that, but I can kinda see why he could mistake you for an Obama supporter (athough Obama isn't an athiest).

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I think Obama has a major problem when his supporters result to attacking any and all opposition instead of arguing what Obama has done well. When politicians up for reelection are in that position they are in deep trouble.

And Perry is a very flawed candidate and yet would be an upgrade over Obama. Like I said Obama reached his level of incompetence with the Presidency.

ShadowMoses900

You actually think I support Obama in 2012.

Oh dear. Though thanks for rebutting the facts about Rick Perry. Seems like a solid fiscal conservative when you look at his recrod.

Well to be fair you do seem a bit biased against religious people, radical or otherwise, and you do seem to often rally behind Obama alot.

Not calling you out or anything like that, but I can kinda see why he could mistake you for an Obama supporter (athough Obama isn't an athiest).

What does bashing religion have to do with who I support? :?

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

You actually think I support Obama in 2012.

Oh dear. Though thanks for rebutting the facts about Rick Perry. Seems like a solid fiscal conservative when you look at his recrod.

DroidPhysX

Well to be fair you do seem a bit biased against religious people, radical or otherwise, and you do seem to often rally behind Obama alot.

Not calling you out or anything like that, but I can kinda see why he could mistake you for an Obama supporter (athough Obama isn't an athiest).

What does bashing religion have to do with who I support? :?

its all about the assumptions my friend.. its the world we live in people percieve you against of for one idea they see you against or for a much broader spectrum of things.. i hate swtor for what its going to do to its heritage in kotor but do i hate bioware no.. yet everytime i bring up the problems with swtor on paper let alone pratice i get chased like a witch cause they assume dislike of 1 game = dislike of whole developer.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

You actually think I support Obama in 2012.

Oh dear. Though thanks for rebutting the facts about Rick Perry. Seems like a solid fiscal conservative when you look at his recrod.

DroidPhysX

Well to be fair you do seem a bit biased against religious people, radical or otherwise, and you do seem to often rally behind Obama alot.

Not calling you out or anything like that, but I can kinda see why he could mistake you for an Obama supporter (athough Obama isn't an athiest).

What does bashing religion have to do with who I support? :?

I'm not saying it has to do with anything, but alot of people assume that people who bash religion are Obama supporters. I don't think that way mind you, but I know alot of people do.

I understand people support different candidates for different reasons, although it doesn't matter because they are all liars.

I was just tyring to explain why some people might see people that way.

Well to be fair you do seem a bit biased against religious people, radical or otherwise, and you do seem to often rally behind Obama alot.

Not calling you out or anything like that, but I can kinda see why he could mistake you for an Obama supporter (athough Obama isn't an athiest).

ShadowMoses900

well you know what you are getting if you vote for Ron Paul. He has been saying the same things for literally decades now.

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Well to be fair you do seem a bit biased against religious people, radical or otherwise, and you do seem to often rally behind Obama alot.

Not calling you out or anything like that, but I can kinda see why he could mistake you for an Obama supporter (athough Obama isn't an athiest).

Genetic_Code

In fact, he was so atheist that he mentioned god in the 9/11 speech.

well you know what you are getting if you vote for Ron Paul. He has been saying the same things for literally decades now.

Serraph105

at least hes consistent unlike te shapeshifting romney

In fact, he was so atheist that he mentioned god in the 9/11 speech.

DroidPhysX

In fact, he was so atheist that he mentioned god in the 9/11 speech.DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Well to be fair you do seem a bit biased against religious people, radical or otherwise, and you do seem to often rally behind Obama alot.

Not calling you out or anything like that, but I can kinda see why he could mistake you for an Obama supporter (athough Obama isn't an athiest).

Genetic_Code

So your saying Obama is a secret Athiest? Man that's just as crazy as people claiming he was a secret muslim!

And he went to a church for how long? Yes it was a racist one, but he still went. And he had a Christmas dinner party and has even prayed about things. Yeah okay he's an athiest!

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

In fact, he was so atheist that he mentioned god in the 9/11 speech.

Genetic_Code

So your saying Obama is a secret Athiest? Man that's just as crazy as people claiming he was a secret muslim!

And he went to a church for how long? Yes it was a racist one, but he still went. And he had a Christmas dinner party and has even prayed about things. Yeah okay he's an athiest!

ShadowMoses900

Why does everyone insist on misspelling "atheist"? E-I, E-I!

Why does everyone insist on misspelling "atheist"? E-I, E-I!

Necrifer

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

well you know what you are getting if you vote for Ron Paul. He has been saying the same things for literally decades now.

ionusX

at least hes consistent unlike te shapeshifting romney

I used to be a pretty big Ron Paul supporter, and I still like some things about him. But some of his ideas are just too far out there to be used. Still he is the most honest person out there and I he has some very good ideas. I just really wish he supported Israel more. Among other things...

Why does everyone insist on misspelling "atheist"? E-I, E-I!

Necrifer

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

So your saying Obama is a secret Athiest? Man that's just as crazy as people claiming he was a secret muslim!

And he went to a church for how long? Yes it was a racist one, but he still went. And he had a Christmas dinner party and has even prayed about things. Yeah okay he's an athiest!

Genetic_Code

Okay, good for you. What does this have to do with anything? You became an athiest and you didn't feel comfortable being open about it because you thought you would get discriminated I guess? This has nothing to do with Obama.

Obama is a christian, get over it. The next president and every president in the future and in the past has believed in god. I'm sorry if that offends you... because it shouldn't. I don't care if Obama or anyone else was an athiest, but he isn't.

Obama is a christian, get over it.

ShadowMoses900

I can't accept that. Just because he says he's a Christian does not make him a Christian. How come he rarely goes to church since leaving Wright's church?Genetic_Code

Who exactly benefits/loses if he's atheist? Or really christian? It doesn't matter. At all.

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Yet you stated any Republican candidate would be a HUGE upgrade over Obama. Not sure how big of an upgrade Perry would be when his policies were the same as Obamas.DroidPhysX

For the record Perry isn't even my first choice. He's probably like my 4th choice. But he would be a significant upgrade over Obama.

Obama is officially incompetent. He 'jobs bill' confirmed that.

Sorry, not the same. But they do share the same intentions. Except Perry has actually gone through with it:

• Doubled Texas Debt
• Doubled Texas gov't
• Raised taxes
• Mandated HPV vaccine

Seems to me that fiscal conservatives are giant hypocrites if they vote Perry over Obama for fiscal reasons.

Who exactly benefits/loses if he's atheist? Or really christian? It doesn't matter. At all.

DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Who exactly benefits/loses if he's atheist? Or really christian? It doesn't matter. At all.

Genetic_Code

NOBODY EVER MENTIONS THE BLACK GUY! GAMESPOT IS RACIST!

I think he's alright.

Necrifer

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Obama is a christian, get over it.

Genetic_Code

Why? What is the issue with someone being a Christian that offends you so much? You know there are radicals out there who won't vote for someone unless they are religious or who push for a radical agenda. Tell me, is there ANY difference between say a radical evangelical on TV saying don't accept people who arn't a member of thier church and a person who refuses and rejects people who are religious? There isn't. They are both mindsets that are judgmental and bigotry. Not saying you are one mind you....

I seriously doubt Obama is lying about his Christian stance, so your telling me that despite Obama coming from a religious background, going on religious work in his youth, spending many years in a church, and then prays while he's in office and hosts a Christmas party and his kids are christians. That Obama REALLY isn't and is secretly trying to give subliminal messages that he is somehow an atheist and is trying to hide it? You should write a book, you got one hell of an imagination. I would buy it.

And mabey he doesn't go to church much anymore because he's busy doing you know, PRESIDENT stuff?And we don't know where Obama goes all the time anyway.

Obama is a CHRISTIAN. ok? I don't see why that is so hard for you to accept. Did a religious person hurt or offend you at sometime? Mabey they were hypocrites and didn't practice what they preach I don't know. But most christians arn't out to get you, a few radical ones sure, but they arn't the majority. Your an atheist and that's cool, but you shouldn't have an issue with someone being religious. If someone wishes you merry christmas or happy hanuckah you shouldn't cry about it.

Just get over it and move on. I don't see the issue with Obama being a christian nor would I care if he was an athiest. But your only seeing things that you want to see.

Very.

My choice is between a Republican-lite, and bats*** crazy.

I wish we had a real liberal in there.

Cody Robert Judy will be the next U.S. President.

All is well.

I hope you're right. I don't want Rick Perry anywhere near the presidency.chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] I hope you're right. I don't want Rick Perry anywhere near the presidency.fidosim

Why? What is the issue with someone being a Christian that offends you so much? You know there are radicals out there who won't vote for someone unless they are religious or who push for a radical agenda. Tell me, is there ANY difference between say a radical evangelical on TV saying don't accept people who arn't a member of thier church and a person who refuses and rejects people who are religious? There isn't. They are both mindsets that are judgmental and bigotry. Not saying you are one mind you....

Christians don't offend me, although I would like to see religion become obsolete, I don't think it should be suppressed through the public or private sphere.

I seriously doubt Obama is lying about his Christian stance, so your telling me that despite Obama coming from a religious background, going on religious work in his youth, spending many years in a church, and then prays while he's in office and hosts a Christmas party and his kids are christians. That Obama REALLY isn't and is secretly trying to give subliminal messages that he is somehow an atheist and is trying to hide it? You should write a book, you got one hell of an imagination. I would buy it.

As far as I know, Obama was raised by a nonreligious family and only became active in Wright's church when he started entering politics. Whatever the case may be, I've never heard the details of Obama's conversion, which is a very essential part of a Christian's life.

And mabey he doesn't go to church much anymore because he's busy doing you know, PRESIDENT stuff?And we don't know where Obama goes all the time anyway.

No, I think that's because he's busy playing golf on Sundays.

Obama is a CHRISTIAN. ok? I don't see why that is so hard for you to accept. Did a religious person hurt or offend you at sometime? Mabey they were hypocrites and didn't practice what they preach I don't know. But most christians arn't out to get you, a few radical ones sure, but they arn't the majority. Your an atheist and that's cool, but you shouldn't have an issue with someone being religious. If someone wishes you merry christmas or happy hanuckah you shouldn't cry about it.

Religious people have treated me with dignity. I have nothing against them. I know they aren't out to get me, as though I'm on their hit list. I'm fine with someone wishing me a "Merry Christmas". I celebrate it, for the family. Don't accuse me of crying about it.

Just get over it and move on. I don't see the issue with Obama being a christian nor would I care if he was an athiest. But your only seeing things that you want to see.

Obama has lied to the American public that he's a Christian. Whatever he practices is not Christianity. The American people deserve to know what Obama's hiding, because it could reveal the mentality of the man and it could affect the way America votes in the next election.

ShadowMoses900

My words in red.

Part of me still wants Ron Paul.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] I hope you're right. I don't want Rick Perry anywhere near the presidency.fidosim

thats got nothing to do with his ability to be a good leader. he won some trophy with cowboy boots on it and he discharged a firearm in the air.

The next one is in 2015...

noxboxlive

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The next one is in 2015...

ToastRider11

indeed but heck i dont live in the USA and i know its next year.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] I hope you're right. I don't want Rick Perry anywhere near the presidency.fidosim

The next election is 14 months away.

And the people who sent us here, they don't have the luxury of waiting 14 months.

Some of them are living week to week! Paycheck to paycheck!

They need help, and they need it now.

While the Presidential options aren't appealing in the least, the real issue is congress. We keep blaming the president, and it's congress that keeps cockblocking his efforts.

While the Presidential options aren't appealing in the least, the real issue is congress. We keep blaming the president, and it's congress that keeps cockblocking his efforts.

hartsickdiscipl

Thank you! We wouldn't be looking at this double dip right now if we weren't laying off so many Federal, State, and localemployees. These are people who could be paying taxes and engaging in commerce! Business isn't going to hire, they don't NEED to as long as the people who would have been consumers keep falling into poverty! They have less and less customers to serveand those customershave more and more money to spend as it isn't being taxed high enough.

I'm voting for Obama since between him and Perry, I think Obama is a better choice. Personally I feel like he would get more done if Congress wasn't completely divided, and I think he has some good plans that could help.

GC, you think Obama is a closet atheist? Though from your posts I'm starting to think that you're a closet conservative.DroidPhysX

I feel like focusing on his religion is totally unrelated to the job at hand. I don't care if his Atheist, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or Jewish, I want my president to get the job done. I might be concerned if it was a Scientology candidate, but only because of issue I have with the church and the control they might want to exert. Anyways, I want to avoid a religious thing here, but I don't get why his faith should ever be an issue. Its not like anyone goes "Kennedy was a Catholic and he did a mostly alright job, lets hire more of them!"

As a country we are f****** anyway. At least with all terrible candidates America KNOWS to go ahead and bend over ahead of time to ease the pain instead of having some articulate spinster lead the people towards thinking things are going to get better ( ie "Change!" ) when they aren't.

I personally like to be prepared for armageddon instead of having it sprung on me at the last minute. I'm taking these options as a sign to start doing just that.