Anyone else feel like the U.S. government has fallen to a new low?

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#1 MrInkredible
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Forget everything else. We're in a financial crisis, people are losing jobs and everything and what is Congress worried about?

Implementing a playoff system for college football.

I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. I always knew our government was run by people who don't care about the people at all, but this just stepped over the line. It's a slap in the face to millions of Americans.

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#2 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Bush Administration blew because Congress was absolutely terrible as well. When I look at Congress, all I see is a bunch of rich old men who wouldn't give a rat's ass about me or my family.
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#3 Boba_Fett_3710
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The US Government has never, I repeat, never been in the interest of the American people, particularly the poor (who's numbers are rapidly growing due to the piss-poor economy).
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#4 xTheExploited
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Seems like you're a bit late pal cos this has been happening for a while now. :P
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itz good to see more ppl waking up.
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The US Government has never, I repeat, never been in the interest of the American people, particularly the poor (who's numbers are rapidly growing due to the piss-poor economy).Boba_Fett_3710
and People wonder why they always hear these words Big Busineuss,Wallstreet before and above all else The People.
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#7 InterpolWilco
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The problems with the Government to me is a result of our ignorance as citizens

In my home state (NY) people just voted Democrat down the board. For crying out loud, Charles Rengel got reelected. Thats ridiculous. The guy who wrote the tax code, THEN CHEATED ON THEM, gets reelected.

Now I don't mind if people vote Democrat, I've done it, but vote for somebody because who your voting for is a person of integrity who wants to serve the people, not because of their party affiliation. And when they don't do their jobs, we should be holding them accountable when they're up for reelection. I'm not saying everyone be an activist or anything like that (lord knows I am not), but just know about who your voting for when its time to pull the lever.

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#8 supa_badman
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ever since money>people

that was when america hit that all time low.

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#9 LikeHaterade
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Absolutely. Everyone knows how to fix the US's financial problems EXCEPT for the people who's job it is to do so. If we had more well-informed voters, I think that would be a great start.
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If I could say what I think about the new president-elect's plan to fix our economy, I'd get moderated. Let's just say, that the government could seriously care less about Johnny Drake in Idaho who lost his job or Anne Jones who lost her job in Atlanta and has to pay tons in child support. It's just a bunch of empty promises that people made, and it's pathetic.
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#11 Devour2Survive
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Eh the US hasn't been capitalistic since...well the 80s.
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you know bolding something is meant to put importance in a message if you bold the whole thing however nobody cares
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#13 m3ss
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As Gore Vidal once said, "half of Americans never read a newspaper, and half of Americans don't vote." It's too bad it's not the same half.
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Eh the US hasn't been capitalistic since...well the 80s.Devour2Survive
How about since Theodore Roosevelt.
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#15 hokies1313
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This is what happens when you let the Democrats control the Congress. You get nothing done.
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The same as it ever was.
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#17 biggest_loser
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Don't worry Bush is gone in January - a new beginning!!
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[QUOTE="hokies1313"]This is what happens when you let the Democrats control the Congress. You get nothing done.

Isn't it still the republicans in the white house? So wouldn't that mean, look what happens when you let the republicans control the congress :P
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[QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]This is what happens when you let the Democrats control the Congress. You get nothing done.

Isn't it still the republicans in the white house? So wouldn't that mean, look what happens when you let the republicans control the congress :P

President can't get anything done if Congress won't listen to him. ;) Republicans controlled Congress back when Clinton was President and look how good our economy was then.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]This is what happens when you let the Democrats control the Congress. You get nothing done.

Isn't it still the republicans in the white house? So wouldn't that mean, look what happens when you let the republicans control the congress :P

President can't get anything done if Congress won't listen to him. ;) Republicans controlled Congress back when Clinton was President and look how good our economy was then.

Not really. The housing crisis that the democrats were responsible for was more like the last straw in a troubled economy. The economy was being built on shaking foundation ever since Reaganomics began to be implemented. The democrats aren't the only one's responsible for this mess that we've gotten ourselves into.
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Absolutely. Everyone knows how to fix the US's financial problems EXCEPT for the people who's job it is to do so. If we had more well-informed voters, I think that would be a great start.LikeHaterade
How are we going to fix this economic problem? I[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]If I could say what I think about the new president-elect's plan to fix our economy, I'd get moderated. Let's just say, that the government could seriously care less about Johnny Drake in Idaho who lost his job or Anne Jones who lost her job in Atlanta and has to pay tons in child support. It's just a bunch of empty promises that people made, and it's pathetic.

You actually know the Obama's plan to fix the economy? All I have ever heard is that he will raise taxes on the rich, and that will not help the economy.
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#22 Jacobistheman
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"] Isn't it still the republicans in the white house? So wouldn't that mean, look what happens when you let the republicans control the congress :P

President can't get anything done if Congress won't listen to him. ;) Republicans controlled Congress back when Clinton was President and look how good our economy was then.

Not really. The housing crisis that the democrats were responsible for was more like the last straw in a troubled economy. The economy was being built on shaking foundation ever since Reaganomics began to be implemented. The democrats aren't the only one's responsible for this mess that we've gotten ourselves into.

It was the biggest straw was Clinton housing policy, and yes a capitalist economy, like regan promoted, is unstable, and has been since it started back in the 17th century, it still works better than socialism.
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#23 Dark__Link
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Do you have absolutely ANY idea how awful the BCS system is?

Finding an alternative is positively the BEST use of their time, and I'm not kidding.

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Everything in America is wrong. This is still a great country but:

1) If the Governor of Illinois was a Republican, there would have been a big fat (R) next to his position when featuredon the news, but since he is DFL, the media will not mention this at all. I know this isn;t relevant though, but that seems to be the way news works now.

2) Some people did not know why they were voting for him. The media only seemed to be talking about what McCain was doing wrong.

3) One word..... CONGRESS!

Now I am just going to say, I did not like either candidate in this election. They both had shaky ideals and I felt like both weren't right for America. However, I am standing behind our new President and will see how he does. He may help us, he may not. But if the first thing he does in office is try to get the Olympics in Chicago, then he needs to seriously re-sort his priorities.

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[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]President can't get anything done if Congress won't listen to him. ;) Republicans controlled Congress back when Clinton was President and look how good our economy was then.

Not really. The housing crisis that the democrats were responsible for was more like the last straw in a troubled economy. The economy was being built on shaking foundation ever since Reaganomics began to be implemented. The democrats aren't the only one's responsible for this mess that we've gotten ourselves into.

It was the biggest straw was Clinton housing policy, and yes a capitalist economy, like regan promoted, is unstable, and has been since it started back in the 17th century, it still works better than socialism.

I am in no way a socialist. I was merely pointing out how the democrats currently in congress did not get ourselves into this mess single handed. But I disagree with you when you say a capitalist economy works any better than a socialistic economy. They both work differently, but I don't think one is better than the other. A pure capitalist economy is equally as bad as a pure socialistic economy in my opinion. I think the best route to go is to have a hybrid economy of the two systems, although it should lean more towards capitalism than socialism.
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#26 -Sun_Tzu-
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Everything in America is wrong. This is still a great country but:

How could this still be a great country if everything in America is wrong?

1) If the Governor of Illinois was a Republican, there would have been a big fat (R) next to his position when featuredon the news, but since he is DFL, the media will not mention this at all. I know this isn;t relevant though, but that seems to be the way news works now.

Not true in the slightest bit. When John Rowland (former governor Connecticut and a republican) resigned due to corruption, I constantly saw him on the news but never saw a big fat (R) next to his name all the time.

2) Some people did not know why they were voting for him. The media only seemed to be talking about what McCain was doing wrong.

That has more to do with McCain running a horrible campaign than with the media being biased.

3) One word..... CONGRESS!

Ok?

Now I am just going to say, I did not like either candidate in this election. They both had shaky ideals and I felt like both weren't right for America. However, I am standing behind our new President and will see how he does. He may help us, he may not. But if the first thing he does in office is try to get the Olympics in Chicago, then he needs to seriously re-sort his priorities.

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#27 GhostOfKosh1
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Forget everything else. We're in a financial crisis, people are losing jobs and everything and what is Congress worried about?

Implementing a playoff system for college football.

I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. I always knew our government was run by people who don't care about the people at all, but this just stepped over the line. It's a slap in the face to millions of Americans.

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[QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Eh the US hasn't been capitalistic since...well the 80s.-Sun_Tzu-
How about since Theodore Roosevelt.

Maybe it never was capitalistic =(

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Halt the sarcasm! Something intelligent on the subject. Kudo's for you.
Absolutely. Everyone knows how to fix the US's financial problems EXCEPT for the people who's job it is to do so. If we had more well-informed voters, I think that would be a great start.likehaterade
Your first sentence is incorrect and your second sentence conflicts the first sentence. Interpol's post can suffice as my response.

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#28 ferrari2001
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The Government has been on the fall, ever since the media outlet began influencing who would be president..and no i don't just mean reporting over radio and TV, I mean in recent years, like last 20 years, our president is picked by the media not the people. Thanks but no thinks.