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#51 cowboymonkey21
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]Yes, we don't need homos prancing around in front of our kids.Crazy_Soviet

Why does everyone assume that gay marriage will somehow lead to the brainwashing of children? We don't want your children near us, you can keep them.

Then don't teach homesexulaity in schools as normal and buiatful thing. When its not.

Schools don't teach that. What school are you going to?
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#52 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Link256"]

[QUOTE="superheromonkey"]It is not technically a ban, it is just giving marriage a specific definition. It troubles me that people would compare the atrocities that the african american community endured in American history to homosexuals not being allowed under the definition of the term "marriage". They still have freedom to do whatever they want. Crazy_Soviet

Incorrect. Ban to prohibit especially by legal means. Therefore, yes, this is a ban.

The reason that it is comparable is that, in both cases, it is fight for equality. Homosexuals not being able to marry is civil rights issue.

Until Homosexuals have the freedom do what ever other American can, including marriage, than, no, they do not have the freedom do whatever they want.

Don't be gay then you can do whatever you want.

My goodness I love paradoxes.

Ultimate freedom! Just follow these rules!

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#53 aliblabla2007
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Nope. I think it's a violation of civil rights, plain and simple.
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#54 Ultimate-Playa
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[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

Homosexuality is a mental illness

Funky_Llama

Prove it.

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

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#56 Bourbons3
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]Yes, we don't need homos prancing around in front of our kids.Crazy_Soviet

Why does everyone assume that gay marriage will somehow lead to the brainwashing of children? We don't want your children near us, you can keep them.

Then don't teach homesexulaity in schools as normal and buiatful thing. When its not.

Thats irrelevent. Proposition 8 is about marriage. All those ads that spoke about teaching homosexuality in schools were a lie. That was never what Proposition 8 was about. Gay marriage was never going to break up the "traditional family". Gay marriage wasn't going to affect straight marriage at all. You were all brainwashed. And being able to legally marry, as opposed to just get a civil union, isn't going to suddenly turn homosexuals in to kidnappers. It makes no difference. I would have thought that the ones who apparently 'prance around' don't have a long-term partner to marry anyway.
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#58 superheromonkey
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There isn't a huge advantage to being married. It is just a label that homosexuals want so they can feel legitimate and piss off the church at the the same time.

Danm_999

That's a huge assumption, especially since the Church wouldn't be performing these ceremonies.

And if its no big deal, why not just give it to them?

Because i think there is enough of a reason to allow it exclusively for heterosexual couples.

-reproduction purposes(not saying it is the biggest reason obviously a lot of marriages don't produce children, but most at least have the potential).

-The greater biological connection. (as stated previously)

-Marriage was initially a religious term that the govt in all of their separation of church and state wisdom meddled with. now the government is in a sticky situation. Honestly i feel religious people have a right to be pissed about it. I would prefer the govt to return the term back to religion and call everyone civil unions.

-personally i think the deterioration of the family unitis one of the biggest social issues that we are facing and i feel that homosexual marriage would continue this. Call it slippery slope if you want, but i would make it more akin to a gateway drug.

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="superheromonkey"]

There isn't a huge advantage to being married. It is just a label that homosexuals want so they can feel legitimate and piss off the church at the the same time.

superheromonkey

That's a huge assumption, especially since the Church wouldn't be performing these ceremonies.

And if its no big deal, why not just give it to them?

Because i think there is enough of a reason to allow it exclusively for heterosexual couples.

-reproduction purposes(not saying it is the biggest reason obviously a lot of marriages don't produce children, but most at least have the potential).

-The greater biological connection. (as stated previously)

-Marriage was initially a religious term that the govt in all of their separation of church and state wisdom meddled with. now the government is in a sticky situation. Honestly i feel religious people have a right to be pissed about it. I would prefer the govt to return the term back to religion and call everyone civil unions.

-personally i think the deterioration of the family unitis one of the biggest social issues that we are facing and i feel that homosexual marriage would continue this. Call it slippery slope if you want, but i would make it more akin to a gateway drug.

Very true

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#60 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

Homosexuality is a mental illness

Ultimate-Playa

Prove it.

:lol: Nice try.

1. Correlation does not imply causation.

2. Homsexuality being linked with mental illnesses does not mean that it is, in and of itself, a mental illness.

3. Did you know that creativity is linked with bipolarity? By your logic, then, creativity is a mental illness. :lol:

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[QUOTE="superheromonkey"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="superheromonkey"]

There isn't a huge advantage to being married. It is just a label that homosexuals want so they can feel legitimate and piss off the church at the the same time.

Crazy_Soviet

That's a huge assumption, especially since the Church wouldn't be performing these ceremonies.

And if its no big deal, why not just give it to them?

Because i think there is enough of a reason to allow it exclusively for heterosexual couples.

-reproduction purposes(not saying it is the biggest reason obviously a lot of marriages don't produce children, but most at least have the potential).

-The greater biological connection. (as stated previously)

-Marriage was initially a religious term that the govt in all of their separation of church and state wisdom meddled with. now the government is in a sticky situation. Honestly i feel religious people have a right to be pissed about it. I would prefer the govt to return the term back to religion and call everyone civil unions.

-personally i think the deterioration of the family unitis one of the biggest social issues that we are facing and i feel that homosexual marriage would continue this. Call it slippery slope if you want, but i would make it more akin to a gateway drug.

Very true

Why do i feel like you are really trying to present people against gay marriage as hateful, ignorant bigots?

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http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Ultimate-Playa

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="superheromonkey"]

that is the second worst argument i've ever heard. homosexuals can't even put their genes in the gene pool by natural means. It is irrelevant.Crazy_Soviet

How is it irrelevent?

Your assuming reproduction between a man and a woman is what marriage is all about.

Also, you completely overlooked the fact that i was not referring to what biology prefers, but what biology has already dictated, in the genetic makeup of gender.

superheromonkey

Biology has also dictated examples in the animal kingdom of homosexuality.

Without repodution are spieces will have no future. I don't want the human race to die off just so we can satisfy less then 2% of the population.

If 2% of the population isn't reproducing the species isn't going to die off. :lol:

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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

Homosexuality is a mental illness

Ultimate-Playa

Prove it.

:lol: Nice try.

1. Correlation does not imply causation.

2. Homsexuality being linked with mental illnesses does not mean that it is, in and of itself, a mental illness.

3. Did you know that creativity is linked with bipolarity? By your logic, then, creativity is a mental illness. :lol:

Sure, go ahead and enjoy your one second of fame. Nobody wins on the internet, and it's like competiting in special olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded.

So why are you still posting?
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#66 Funky_Llama
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-reproduction purposes(not saying it is the biggest reason obviously a lot of marriages don't produce children, but most at least have the potential).

-The greater biological connection. (as stated previously)

superheromonkey

That's the naturalistic fallacy.

-Marriage was initially a religious term that the govt in all of their separation of church and state wisdom meddled with. now the government is in a sticky situation. Honestly i feel religious people have a right to be pissed about it. I would prefer the govt to return the term back to religion and call everyone civil unions.

superheromonkey

Your personal preferences are irrelevant.

-personally i think the deterioration of the family unitis one of the biggest social issues that we are facing and i feel that homosexual marriage would continue this. Call it slippery slope if you want, but i would make it more akin to a gateway drug.

superheromonkey

Prove it.

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#67 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]Nope. I think it's a violation of civil rights, plain and simple.Crazy_Soviet

But you don't think.

Avoid calling anyone who disagrees with you a moron and we'll actually get somewhere.

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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

Homosexuality is a mental illness

Ultimate-Playa

Prove it.

:lol: Nice try.

1. Correlation does not imply causation.

2. Homsexuality being linked with mental illnesses does not mean that it is, in and of itself, a mental illness.

3. Did you know that creativity is linked with bipolarity? By your logic, then, creativity is a mental illness. :lol:

Sure, go ahead and enjoy your one second of fame. Nobody wins on the internet, and it's like competiting in special olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded.

:lol: You've lost, admit it. Have a nice day. ;)
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#69 Ultimate-Playa
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[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Danm_999

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

Homosexuality is a mental illness

Ultimate-Playa

Prove it.

:lol: Nice try.

1. Correlation does not imply causation.

2. Homsexuality being linked with mental illnesses does not mean that it is, in and of itself, a mental illness.

3. Did you know that creativity is linked with bipolarity? By your logic, then, creativity is a mental illness. :lol:

Sure, go ahead and enjoy your one second of fame. Nobody wins on the internet, and it's like competiting in special olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded.

So what does that make you?
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[QUOTE="Crazy_Soviet"]Without repodution are spieces will have no future. I don't want the human race to die off just so we can satisfy less then 2% of the population.Foolz3h
If 2% of the population isn't reproducing the species isn't going to die off. :lol:

Not to mention, not as if all of us heterosexual folks are having babies.

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-personally i think the deterioration of the family unitis one of the biggest social issues that we are facing and i feel that homosexual marriage would continue this. Call it slippery slope if you want, but i would make it more akin to a gateway drug.

superheromonkey

Several countries already allow gay marriage. Name one that actually saw this effect you propose.

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#74 Danm_999
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-Marriage was initially a religious term that the govt in all of their separation of church and state wisdom meddled with. now the government is in a sticky situation. Honestly i feel religious people have a right to be pissed about it. I would prefer the govt to return the term back to religion and call everyone civil unions.superheromonkey

Incorrect. Marriage predates Christianity by hundreds, if not thousands of years.

In many ages it was seen as no better than an economic agreement between families to pool resources.

-personally i think the deterioration of the family unitis one of the biggest social issues that we are facing and i feel that homosexual marriage would continue this. Call it slippery slope if you want, but i would make it more akin to a gateway drug.

superheromonkey

This reasoning has no substance either. Banning gay marriage is unlikely to strengthen the family unit, homosexuals won't simply join heterosexual families and conform to traditional standards.

And if the protection of the family unit was the real concern here, divorce would not be so liberal a process.

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-personally i think the deterioration of the family unitis one of the biggest social issues that we are facing and i feel that homosexual marriage would continue this. Call it slippery slope if you want, but i would make it more akin to a gateway drug.

superheromonkey

Straight marriage isn't going to be touched by gay marriage. They will co-exist. Homosexuals will not disrupt your 'traditional' family life. It didn't happen while same-sex marriage was legal in California, so why would it happen now? People just seemed to ignore the fact that same-sex marriage did nothing to affect them in the few months it was legal in California. I also doubt that straight marriage has lost all value in Massachusetts.
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[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

Homosexuality is a mental illness

cowboymonkey21

Prove it.

:lol: Nice try.

1. Correlation does not imply causation.

2. Homsexuality being linked with mental illnesses does not mean that it is, in and of itself, a mental illness.

3. Did you know that creativity is linked with bipolarity? By your logic, then, creativity is a mental illness. :lol:

Sure, go ahead and enjoy your one second of fame. Nobody wins on the internet, and it's like competiting in special olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded.

So what does that make you?

Oh, using my argument, can't come up with your own? I see what you did there!

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Wrong, you still must think you're smart because you parrot what was taught to you.

Ultimate-Playa

You think those responses were 'taught to me'? For your specific argument, in advance? That would be quite a feat of prediction on the teacher's part. :lol:

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Ultimate-Playa

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

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#79 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Ultimate-Playa

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

Hooray for slavery!
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[QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

Homosexuality is a mental illness

Ultimate-Playa

Prove it.

:lol: Nice try.

1. Correlation does not imply causation.

2. Homsexuality being linked with mental illnesses does not mean that it is, in and of itself, a mental illness.

3. Did you know that creativity is linked with bipolarity? By your logic, then, creativity is a mental illness. :lol:

Sure, go ahead and enjoy your one second of fame. Nobody wins on the internet, and it's like competiting in special olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded.

So what does that make you?

Oh, using my argument, can't come up with your own? I see what you did there!

Oh, avoiding the question. I see what you did there!:roll:
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[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Danm_999

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

LOL, please tell me what Africans, specifically sub-saharan Africans had before Europeans came!

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Ultimate-Playa

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

LOL, please tell me what Africans, specifically sub-saharan Africans had before Europeans came!

Freedom.
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#84 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Ultimate-Playa

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

LOL, please tell me what Africans, specifically sub-saharan Africans had before Europeans came!

Sovereign empires. Look up the Mali or Axumite Empires.

Seriously, if you think being enslaved and colonised by European powers was a positive experience, I'm not sure there's much more we can rationally debate.

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Ultimate-Playa

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

LOL, please tell me what Africans, specifically sub-saharan Africans had before Europeans came!

Whoa, wait. You agree with slavery?:?
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[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Bourbons3

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

LOL, please tell me what Africans, specifically sub-saharan Africans had before Europeans came!

Freedom.

They still had freedom while under European rule, you're pathetic. You cannot come up with evidence that reveals progression or signs of civilizations before Europeans came.

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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Ultimate-Playa

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

LOL, please tell me what Africans, specifically sub-saharan Africans had before Europeans came!

Freedom.

They still had freedom while under European rule, you're pathetic. You cannot come up with evidence that reveals progression or signs of civilizations before Europeans came.

The Ancient Egyptians didn't have civilisation before European conquest?
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They still had freedom while under European rule, you're pathetic. You cannot come up with evidence that reveals progression or signs of civilizations before Europeans came.

Ultimate-Playa

Yes! Wasn't being shipped off to the Americas to work on a plantation in Virginia for the rest of your life a wonderful element of freedom!

And wasn't apartheid in South Africa swell?

Evidence that reveals progressions or signs of civilizations before Europeans came?

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#89 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Bourbons3

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

LOL, please tell me what Africans, specifically sub-saharan Africans had before Europeans came!

Freedom.

They still had freedom while under European rule, you're pathetic. You cannot come up with evidence that reveals progression or signs of civilizations before Europeans came.

The Ancient Egyptians didn't have civilisation before European conquest?

Nor did Carthage and the Moors. They simply blundered along, somehow repeatedly invading Europe, the civilized and enlightened peoples.

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I'm pretty much indifferent to it, it doesn't effect me in any way. But I find it kind of wrong that so many people get vote to take away the right of other people with cultural differences.
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[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

cowboymonkey21

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

LOL, please tell me what Africans, specifically sub-saharan Africans had before Europeans came!

Whoa, wait. You agree with slavery?:?

Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm telling you that Africans did not make any significant progression to civilization. I'm also saying that if Europeans left Africans alone then there would be no civilization built by anyone because Europeans weren't there to help them.

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#92 cowboymonkey21
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[QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Ultimate-Playa

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

LOL, please tell me what Africans, specifically sub-saharan Africans had before Europeans came!

Whoa, wait. You agree with slavery?:?

Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm telling you that Africans did not make any significant progression to civilization. I'm also saying that if Europeans left Africans alone then there would be no civilization built by anyone because Europeans weren't there to help them.

Egyptians did. Well I'll talk to you guys later. It's 5:00 AM over here so I'm going to sleep.
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#93 Danm_999
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Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm telling you that Africans did not make any significant progression to civilization. I'm also saying that if Europeans left Africans alone then there would be no civilization built by anyone because Europeans weren't there to help them.

Ultimate-Playa

Your beyond hope.

I'll leave you to it.

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[QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Ultimate-Playa

NARTH?

You mean the site that claimed Africans were better off under slavery because Africa was uncivilized?

Not exactly a credible source compared to the US government.

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

European colonialism is probably the biggest cause for the instability in Africa today.

To suggest that Africans couldn't feed themselves before Europeans arrived is almost so stupid its comical.

I feel very sorry for something has poisoned you so completely that you hold these bigoted views about Africans and homosexuals.

LOL, please tell me what Africans, specifically sub-saharan Africans had before Europeans came!

Whoa, wait. You agree with slavery?:?

Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm telling you that Africans did not make any significant progression to civilization. I'm also saying that if Europeans left Africans alone then there would be no civilization built by anyone because Europeans weren't there to help them.

And what do they have now? Military dictators and civil wars across the continent.
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In california the voters overruled the supreme court and ammended the constitution to define marriage between one man and one woman. The homosexual community took to the street in protest. I don't see why homesexuals still claim that it is hateful to define marriage that way. If that is the case i guess biology is hateful for designing us that way. superheromonkey

why do you happy that some people cant be happy? ... are you jealous?

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Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

Ultimate-Playa
Africa is the way Africa is now, because of Europeans raping the continent from the Romans to the British Empire
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#97 Ultimate-Playa
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Yes! Wasn't being shipped off to the Americas to work on a plantation in Virginia for the rest of your life a wonderful element of freedom!

It sucks, obviously but it was far better than going to war against other tribes in Africa.

And wasn't apartheid in South Africa swell?

So it is in Israel too, what is your point? South Africa was a better place to live and more peaceful before Apartheid collapsed. If you disagree, then I think you may regret you disagreement. Because if you look at facts, South Africa had better food supply, lower crime rates, high productivity under apartheid. What happened after? South African blacks killing whites at every step and Uhuru once Jacob Zuma becomes president.

Evidence that reveals progressions or signs of civilizations before Europeans came

That's my question, were there any? I doubt it, mud huts and spears doesn't qualify.

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#98 Ultimate-Playa
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[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]

Europeans built infrastructure in Africa and it IMPROVED Africans' daily lives. Before Europeans came, they didn't have sanitation, electrictiy and they barely scraped by with food. After, Europeans gave them everything, oh and what did they do with it? They pissed it all away, apparently they love killing more than living civilized lives! Please, know your facts before calling anything uncredible.

DivergeUnify

Africa is the way Africa is now, because of Europeans raping the continent from the Romans to the British Empire

Wrong, without Europeans Africa would remain undeveloped.

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This is getting off-tangent. Prop 8 =/= the pros and cons of Imperialism in Africa
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#100 Crazy_Soviet
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This is getting off-tangent. Prop 8 =/= the pros and cons of Imperialism in AfricaBourbons3

Very true