Anyone Else Mad at the Current State of the Music Industry?

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[QUOTE="FALLENxANGEL84"] I do enjoy some of eminem's work. He is the only rapper i actually have respect for. Other than that I have never liked rap in my entire life, so I don't think what I enjoy now is just some "stage"SuperSaiyanLink

[QUOTE="FALLENxANGEL84"][QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] Please... Jay-Z - The Blueprint Jay-Z - The Black Album Nas - Stillmatic Eminem - The Eminem Show Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below and these are just from mainstream hip-hop artist, throw in the hundred underground acts making good music and you have tons of great music. I think you're just going through your teen music elitist stage.JPOBS

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[QUOTE="FALLENxANGEL84"] I do enjoy some of eminem's work. He is the only rapper i actually have respect for. Other than that I have never liked rap in my entire life, so I don't think what I enjoy now is just some "stage"FALLENxANGEL84

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[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] Strange you only like Eminem when there are plenty of rappers with better lyrical ability and production than him?

the_new_guy_92

[QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"][QUOTE="MarioFan264"]

Yeah, that's your opinion. Which is great and all, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean that it's crap.

MarioFan264

Apparently you aren't all for people having different opinions.

Opinions do not suck, until people start claiming they are fact, like you.

Dre killed it on Relapse. SSLP, MMLP, TES are all obviously loaded with classic production. Even Encore had some great beats (Evil Deeds, Like Toy Soliders, Mockingbird, Spend Some Time, etc.)

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]I wouldn't say plenty. He probably only likes Lose Yourself though.

SuperSaiyanLink

Only rap I can stand is old school hip hop. Listening to artists like Slick Rick, you can tell that they're true poets. I can picture images in my head with him.Jordo321

Dre killed it on Relapse. SSLP, MMLP, TES are all obviously loaded with classic production. Even Encore had some great beats (Evil Deeds, Like Toy Soliders, Mockingbird, Spend Some Time, etc.)

SuperSaiyanLink

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[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] what is the musical equivalent of spam?FALLENxANGEL84

Talented and creative musicianship

Creative songwriting: ex. melody, harmony, rhythm, etc

Thoughtful/meaningful lyrics

If you examine most of the music you hear on popular radio today you will find very little of any of that. Maybe "I hate everything about you. Why do I love you?" and "this is why I'm hot, I don't have to rap" strikes a chord in some, but it is usually easy to tell when a song has been crafted with care versus when it has been designed and produced to sell in mass quantities for the public consumption (spam)

[QUOTE="FALLENxANGEL84"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]Like i said in another post, you're 15 You were literally like, 4 or 5 when some of the best rap albums of all time were released, how could you possibly know whether you like it or not :roll:

the_new_guy_92

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[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] There are definitely plenty of rappers with better production than him, lyrical ability he's one of the elite, but put him with another elite emcee and he can still get outperformed(or outperform them).the_new_guy_92

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[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] There are definitely plenty of rappers with better production than him, lyrical ability he's one of the elite, but put him with another elite emcee and he can still get outperformed(or outperform them).the_new_guy_92

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="FALLENxANGEL84"] I just don't like what rap represents in general, the beats created by computers in most songs, the artist speaking instead of singing.... It just does not apply to my musical tastes.FALLENxANGEL84

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="FALLENxANGEL84"] I just don't like what rap represents in general, the beats created by computers in most songs, the artist speaking instead of singing.... It just does not apply to my musical tastes.FALLENxANGEL84

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Dre killed it on Relapse. SSLP, MMLP, TES are all obviously loaded with classic production. Even Encore had some great beats (Evil Deeds, Like Toy Soliders, Mockingbird, Spend Some Time, etc.)

the_new_guy_92

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]I disagree strongly. Who do you have in mind?

SuperSaiyanLink

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[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] Dude hasn't worked with elite producers in a while, he used to have Dr. Dre but Dre fell off and he doesn't even use him that often. Jay-Z has Just Blaze and Kanye Nas has DJ Premier and Salaam Reimi Even T.I. and Young Jeezy have elite producers in Drumma Boy and DJ ToompAce_WondersX

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="FALLENxANGEL84"] I just don't like what rap represents in general, the beats created by computers in most songs, the artist speaking instead of singing.... It just does not apply to my musical tastes.FALLENxANGEL84

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[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] then that okay, but don't insult the lyrical ability of hip-hop artist when most of the elite rappers make guys like Breaking Benjamin look like 3rd graders writing lyrics.SuperSaiyanLink

Well clearly i'm not getting across to anyone. Screw it i'm out.

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"][QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]I'd say Em easily has consistantly better production than Nas and Jay. Nas is notorious for being a bad beat selecter and Jay definitely has his fair share of garbo beats (I Know What Girls Like EWWWWWW). TI and Jeezy aren't even in the same universe music wise so it's hard to compare.

SuperSaiyanLink

Please just show and example of Breaking Benjamin's complex lyricism and I'll post one from a rapper. Then we can compare.

My favorite genres invovle Metal,Hard Rock, etc. But I still listen to and enjoy some other stuff (mainstream, rap, hiphop, country, etc). Do I listen to it all the time? No, and I can't till you anything about Jay-Z accept some of the stuff I've heard is good. And thats fine, the music industry is getting bigger and bigger, unknowns can find more outlets to get out and be heard. Yes I don't like some mainstream music, but there is an equal side of it I do like. I do wish that metal would get mainstream play, but they don't and that is what, cds, sirius radio,and zunes(ipods) are for.

On a seperate note, I like BB, but only the odd song here and there, I feel to many songs are slow and dont live up to their potential, for every 'Blow me Away' or 'Diary of Jane' on an albulm they ahve 6 slow songs like 'give me a sign' thatI cant really stand. Tahst just my opinion on it.

Please just show and example of Breaking Benjamin's complex lyricism and I'll post one from a rapper. Then we can compare.

Ace_WondersX

I dont like the popular part of the music industry, the rest of it is good though :P Theres good rap/hip-hop/rock/dance/electronica/classical/hardcore/post, or whatever else out there, you just gotta find it.

There's plenty of good music out there... You just might have to dig for it.
I don't understand a lot of what's currently popular either, but I wouldn't go as far as damning absolutely everything contemporary.t3hrubikscube

There are many different genres out there, just don't go for what's popular and go for what you like.

The most important thing is to support those you like by actually buying singles, albums and seeing them in concert.

There is good rap and bad rap...I like rap but I want try to change your mind...

What I hate about music today is the way pop has envolved....people like Lady Gaga,who completely try to win people with maddness and stupid tricks...

Modern music sucks. Look to the past. I've been going back and rediscovering some older bands in my favorite genres and really starting to like them.

As an example, I'm an industrial fan and I listen to Nine Inch Nails. I decided to search for some similar styles of music and found what is possibly my favorite band of all time with Front Line Assembly. For alternative, I started with Nirvana, then went back to some Pixies and even Beck for a little more folk.

I try to find something modern that I enjoy, then go back and look at similar artists and delve into them as well. Then I start finding more bands, and better albums, etc.

I don't listen or support most modern music because 99% of it is filth. I cling to my older bands like a security blanket and support them as much as I can. Until something revolutionary comes out from this decade, I'll stick with the past.

I was just thinking, what are the current "classic" songs that we will hear on the oldies station in 30 years? Lady Gaga? :? Justin Beiber? :o Seriously, there doesn't seem to be anything of any real quality.hoola

I think exactly the same thing - but, it's important to remember that there was a lot of rubbish stuff in the 80s and 90s at times... It'll certainly be fun to see what makes the cut on the oldies playlists of the future :)

Well, i like lyrics with meaning, singers who write there own songs ect but i do still like the mainstream music aswell. I hate girls who are addicted to Jonas Brothers, Justin Bieber and that typical rubbish ^^

I was just thinking, what are the current "classic" songs that we will hear on the oldies station in 30 years? Lady Gaga? :? Justin Beiber? :o Seriously, there doesn't seem to be anything of any real quality.

hoola

I think this is a very good point. Much of the music that I hear on the radio I can only really descibe as "recycled." I mean, it's pleasing to listen to, and when other people want to blast it during a car ride I don't have a problem with it, but it's not breaking any new ground; it's similar to being addicted to a drug. Instant pleasure; creativity and progression be damned.

That's why I don't see the vast majority of the music we hear today adequately surviving into future decades. Sure, a few of these songs we'll hear every once and a while, purely for the sake of nostalgia, but they really don't stand the test of time otherwise. If you consider the songs from decades past that are well known and still make radio play, they are truly a minimal portion of all the music that was introduced at the time. Just think back five years. Can you remember all the radio hits, and hot songs from the time? Only a couple from even then have survived this long.

Ultimately the level of buzz a song or artist recieves upon initial impact is not indicative of how well they will age. These catchy radio songs are going to be washed away, and the musical imprint from this era will be weathered down to what was truly solid, and what pushed things into new directions.

I was really agreeing with what you were saying until you got to that Breaking Benjamin point. :|auron_16

It really is a mixed bag. Being a musician, I try to open my mind up to as much music as possible, but all the rap, hip-hop, and teenie-bop stars on the radio just do nothing for me. I just cant listen to it. I was actually excited for mainstream music back in 04/05, when The Killers, Franz, Keane and other new-wave revival bands were writing legitimately great pop songs. Now I dont even bother to turn the radio on, I spend more time skipping songs then I do listening.

I find I like a song on occasion, but really, the radio has been crap for a few years.

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Today's music is centered around one thing and one thing only........ Money

and this is why i stick to Classical and some kind of metal and such

no rap nor pop trash

bruinfan617

probably :P

Heh. I know where you're coming from, because you sound just like me when I was 15. If it wasn't hardcore punk or goth/deathrock, it was garbage, plain and simple. Nothing much really changes in the industry. What you hear on the radio is pabulum, created for easy consumption by the masses. It is now, was then, and always will be. There is a lot of fantastic music being created now, but you simply cannot expect to find it if you don't dig deeper.

Rap hate thread in disguise.