Are Catholics Christians?

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JudgementEden"]

No, not a joke post. The link Xaos posted tells why pretty briefly. Everyone who thinks what I said is stupid or wrong shouldn't act like they know anything about history that involves the Roman Church or Christianity as a whole. I totally meant what I said.

JudgementEden

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"]What facts? I must have missed them. All I have been hearing are opinions on what a Christian is, not facts.entropyecho

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JudgementEden"]

No, not a joke post. The link Xaos posted tells why pretty briefly. Everyone who thinks what I said is stupid or wrong shouldn't act like they know anything about history that involves the Roman Church or Christianity as a whole. I totally meant what I said.

JudgementEden

It's a **** Chick Tract.

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Uhh... I'm not looking back at the thread, but didn't Xaos link to a Chick Tract?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"]What facts? I must have missed them. All I have been hearing are opinions on what a Christian is, not facts.JudgementEden

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Uhh... I'm not looking back at the thread, but didn't Xaos link to a Chick Tract?PannicAtack

It's a **** Chick Tract.

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]Maybe I missed this because I am not following the thread too closely, but what facts have you presented for your case?

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="JudgementEden"] I dont point out hard facts unless someone else does so. Otherwise I just waste my time. Like Xaos apparently did posting that Chick Tract.JudgementEden

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"] Yes, he did in fact, everyone seems to be ignoring the link though. That will tell everyone why I believe Catholics are not Christian, in a nut shell anyway.JudgementEden

It's a **** Chick Tract.

Catholics are the first ever form of Christianity.

Catholics are the first ever form of Christianity.

Vesica_Prime

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Dude.

It's a **** Chick Tract.

qwertyoip

Last time I checked, you dont even believe in a religion, so why do you care?JudgementEden

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Catholics are the first ever form of Christianity.

PannicAtack

Just wondering what was the one before Catholics?

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"]Last time I checked, you dont even believe in a religion, so why do you care?PannicAtack

[QUOTE="qwertyoip"][QUOTE="JudgementEden"] Yes, I realize that, however what that specific tract says is nonetheless, the truth. Not to mention it is historically backed. Last time I checked, you dont even believe in a religion, so why do you care?JudgementEden

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Catholics are the first ever form of Christianity.

PannicAtack

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Catholics are the first ever form of Christianity.

Vesica_Prime

Just wondering what was the one before Catholics?

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JudgementEden"]Last time I checked, you dont even believe in a religion, so why do you care?JudgementEden

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"]

[QUOTE="qwertyoip"] The fact that he's not emotionally involved with this argument and is disputing your position SHOULD make you stop and think.PannicAtack

Kent Hovind actually knew a lot of what he was talking about as well.

JudgementEden

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JudgementEden"] Yeah, and I said it was still a good tract. I dont care what Xaos's intentions were. Whether he intended to belittle those who believe as I do or not. The fact remains, the information in that link is good and can be trusted. The motivation of the poster is nill.

JudgementEden

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Jack Chick has zero credibility. He's a nutjob fundie and a conspiracy theorist. He has on his website. stuff by Kent Hovind and by people who think that Dungeons and Dragons is a satanic activity. Why is it good and can be trusted? Because you agree with it?qwertyoip

I believe this is what xaos posted: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp

Am I correct in assuming that certain practices of Catholics exclude them from your definition of Christians?

Oh dear...

1. Catholics are Christians
2. Catholics came before Protestants
3. Why has this thread gone on as long as it has?

I believe this is what xaos posted: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp

Am I correct in assuming that certain practices of Catholics exclude them from your definition of Christians?

entropyecho

Yes, a person who follows the Catholic beliefs is a Christian. They might have some things wrong (according to the teachings in the Bible), but many of them aren't major flaws.

Also, Mormons aren't Christian, as they believe you get to Heaven through good works alone, which goes against the core principles in the Bible.

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

I believe this is what xaos posted:

Am I correct in assuming that certain practices of Catholics exclude them from your definition of Christians?

JudgementEden

As for that link...how one worships is not the definition of what a Christian is but what they believe. Catholics were called Christians way before they were called Catholics. /thread.

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

I believe this is what xaos posted: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp

Am I correct in assuming that certain practices of Catholics exclude them from your definition of Christians?

JudgementEden

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]

I believe this is what xaos posted:

Am I correct in assuming that certain practices of Catholics exclude them from your definition of Christians?

LJS9502_basic

As for that link...how one worships is not the definition of what a Christian is but what they believe. Catholics were called Christians way before they were called Catholics. /thread.

The sacraments are not in the Bible, just misinterpretations. I think the Bible would beg to differ on the issues of worship, it may be a small matter to most, but not God.JudgementEden

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"]The sacraments are not in the Bible, just misinterpretations. I think the Bible would beg to differ on the issues of worship, it may be a small matter to most, but not God.LJS9502_basic

Well, yeah, of course he was baptized. He performed communion, the apostles spread the Gospel. But Christians dont call them sacraments. It's also funny how you mentioned the ones found in the Bible but haven't mentioned the ones that are CLEARLY not there. I barely said anything about Catholicism, I know a lot about it. I just haven't said much here. There's really not much to get. It's not like the religion is complicated, I guess in some ways it is though.JudgementEden

Well, yeah, of course he was baptized. He performed communion, the apostles spread the Gospel. But Christians dont call them sacraments. It's also funny how you mentioned the ones found in the Bible but haven't mentioned the ones that are CLEARLY not there. JudgementEden

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Wrong. Jesus was baptized. Jesus celebrated the last supper etc. He also called his apostles to spread the word. Those are not misinterpretations. From your posts I have concluded that you are unfamiliar with Catholicism.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"]Well, yeah, of course he was baptized. He performed communion, the apostles spread the Gospel. But Christians dont call them sacraments. It's also funny how you mentioned the ones found in the Bible but haven't mentioned the ones that are CLEARLY not there. entropyecho

http://remnantofgod.org/ Go to the "RCC Exposed" column if you want to know about that specifically.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="JudgementEden"] Well, yeah, of course he was baptized. He performed communion, the apostles spread the Gospel. But Christians dont call them sacraments. It's also funny how you mentioned the ones found in the Bible but haven't mentioned the ones that are CLEARLY not there. I barely said anything about Catholicism, I know a lot about it. I just haven't said much here. There's really not much to get. It's not like the religion is complicated, I guess in some ways it is though.qwertyoip

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"]Well, yeah, of course he was baptized. He performed communion, the apostles spread the Gospel. But Christians dont call them sacraments. It's also funny how you mentioned the ones found in the Bible but haven't mentioned the ones that are CLEARLY not there. JudgementEden

http://remnantofgod.org/ Go to the "RCC Exposed" column if you want to know about that specifically.