Are drone strikes justifiable?

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Not under any circumstances is it okay to kill even a single innocent. ad1x2

[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] From my perspective they are not. I'm on their side. Why would I support the bombing of my own side? How come the bombing of Berlin was ok but not of London?

themajormayor

It's true though, if I was a member of Hamas I certainly would not like the Israelis using drone strikes. It's not hypocritical. You want your side to win and the other side to lose.

Again though, from an objective point of view, as I already stated before I wouldn't see their use of drones in itself as any less justifiable than Israelis using them, provided it is used in a moral manner. However I would be against the reason it is used.

Distinction, not against the use in itself but the reason for its use (i.e to destroy Israel or w/e).

Analogy. I would be against the Nazi invasion of Poland involving tanks or w/e. But I wouldn't be against the actual use of tanks by either side. Now maybe you could say I would be against the Nazi use of tanks due to the invasion being a prerequisite for the use of tanks. But even then it would stand against your accusations of hypocracy since then really the two sides would not be comparable.

Violence is never the answer, unless the government wants your shit

it's all about survival my friends

No, it is a coawrds way to fight, it maybe justtifable if it only target a genuine threat to humanity, but half of drone strikes kill innoent people.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/22/304751/terror-drones-mostly-kill-civilians/

Disgusting

[QUOTE="ad1x2"][QUOTE="famicommander"]Not under any circumstances is it okay to kill even a single innocent. thebest31406

No, it is a coawrds way to fight, it maybe justtifable if it only target a genuine threat to humanity, but half of drone strikes kill innoent people.

 

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/22/304751/terror-drones-mostly-kill-civilians/

 

Disgusting

ultimate-k

Of course they are. Not the way they are currently being used (signature strikes, double taps etc), but there is appropriate ways to use them in war.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="thebest31406"] That's no moral argument.thebest31406

It's true though, if I was a member of Hamas I certainly would not like the Israelis using drone strikes. It's not hypocritical. You want your side to win and the other side to lose.

Again though, from an objective point of view, as I already stated before I wouldn't see their use of drones in itself as any less justifiable than Israelis using them, provided it is used in a moral manner. However I would be against the reason it is used.

Distinction, not against the use in itself but the reason for its use (i.e to destroy Israel or w/e).

Analogy. I would be against the Nazi invasion of Poland involving tanks or w/e. But I wouldn't be against the actual use of tanks by either side. Now maybe you could say I would be against the Nazi use of tanks due to the invasion being a prerequisite for the use of tanks. But even then it would stand against your accusations of hypocracy since then really the two sides would not be comparable.

Did you even read what I wrote? I have already adressed your moronic post now about hundred times

As long as precautions are being taken to avoid civilian causalities, then I don't see how it's any less legal than manned strikes.  And none of the "they weren't civilians because they were potential combatants" bullshit rhetoric that's being spouted by the current administration.

opponents just have huge gaping vaginas

Only if the US does it...if any other nations, say Russia decided to launch a drone strike into Georgia, people would denounce it and that would be fine. But question US policy and your asking for trouble.

Only if the US does it...if any other nations, say Russia decided to launch a drone strike into Georgia, people would denounce it and that would be fine. But question US policy and your asking for trouble.

RahXephon101

Frankly i don't think there are any other countries of enough merit (maybe china in the future, israel in the far far future) to question US policy.

[QUOTE="RahXephon101"]

Only if the US does it...if any other nations, say Russia decided to launch a drone strike into Georgia, people would denounce it and that would be fine. But question US policy and your asking for trouble.

frannkzappa

Frankly i don't think there are any other countries of enough merit (maybe china in the future, israel in the far far future) to question US policy.

True, my point was more that if China or Russia carried out a drone strike it would be condemned as a horrible act by the many of the same people who openly support the US actions. If you think drone strikes are justifiable than do not get mad if Russia launches a drone strike into a neighbouring country on the justificiation of defence.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="RahXephon101"]

Only if the US does it...if any other nations, say Russia decided to launch a drone strike into Georgia, people would denounce it and that would be fine. But question US policy and your asking for trouble.

RahXephon101

Frankly i don't think there are any other countries of enough merit (maybe china in the future, israel in the far far future) to question US policy.

True, my point was more that if China or Russia carried out a drone strike it would be condemned as a horrible act by the many of the same people who openly support the US actions. If you think drone strikes are justifiable than do not get mad if Russia launches a drone strike into a neighbouring country on the justificiation of defence.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="RahXephon101"]

Only if the US does it...if any other nations, say Russia decided to launch a drone strike into Georgia, people would denounce it and that would be fine. But question US policy and your asking for trouble.

RahXephon101

Frankly i don't think there are any other countries of enough merit (maybe china in the future, israel in the far far future) to question US policy.

True, my point was more that if China or Russia carried out a drone strike it would be condemned as a horrible act by the many of the same people who openly support the US actions. If you think drone strikes are justifiable than do not get mad if Russia launches a drone strike into a neighbouring country on the justificiation of defence.

You seem to think the world operates on an honor sytem...it doesn't nor should it.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="RahXephon101"]

Only if the US does it...if any other nations, say Russia decided to launch a drone strike into Georgia, people would denounce it and that would be fine. But question US policy and your asking for trouble.

RahXephon101

Frankly i don't think there are any other countries of enough merit (maybe china in the future, israel in the far far future) to question US policy.

True, my point was more that if China or Russia carried out a drone strike it would be condemned as a horrible act by the many of the same people who openly support the US actions. If you think drone strikes are justifiable than do not get mad if Russia launches a drone strike into a neighbouring country on the justificiation of defence.

Except grayfox.

[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="ad1x2"] Cool?

It's true though, if I was a member of Hamas I certainly would not like the Israelis using drone strikes. It's not hypocritical. You want your side to win and the other side to lose.

Again though, from an objective point of view, as I already stated before I wouldn't see their use of drones in itself as any less justifiable than Israelis using them, provided it is used in a moral manner. However I would be against the reason it is used.

Distinction, not against the use in itself but the reason for its use (i.e to destroy Israel or w/e).

Analogy. I would be against the Nazi invasion of Poland involving tanks or w/e. But I wouldn't be against the actual use of tanks by either side. Now maybe you could say I would be against the Nazi use of tanks due to the invasion being a prerequisite for the use of tanks. But even then it would stand against your accusations of hypocracy since then really the two sides would not be comparable.

ad1x2

Did you even read what I wrote? I have already adressed your moronic post now about hundred times

Yes. They shouldn't be over utilized and that is a fine line but I think there is a place for them and always will be.

[QUOTE="ad1x2"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] No, the hypocrisy comes from the fact that forcing drones on State that doesn't want them, on a people that don't them, is perfectly fine - just as long as it isn't your state.thebest31406

Did you even read what I wrote? I have already adressed your moronic post now about hundred times

[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="ad1x2"]

Did you even read what I wrote? I have already adressed your moronic post now about hundred times

ad1x2

YESSS. I am 100% for Drone Strikes. No ground War over Drone Strikes again..

Simply get the F out and let the Pakistan and Afghanistan deal with the Pakistani/Afghani terrorists.thebest31406

There are, for the time being, stability concerns.

[QUOTE="thebest31406"]Simply get the F out and let the Pakistan and Afghanistan deal with the Pakistani/Afghani terrorists.dude_brahmski

There are, for the time being, stability concerns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI