Are fast food companies trying to kill us?

I came across this article about Carls Jr, and how they were upping the ante in the food stakes. it seems they have a take no prisoners policy when it comes to creating food products that their customers want. But then again whose responsibility is it to ensure healthy eating of customers? It was also quite telling when the Carls CEO stated, "They think they want a salad, but they order a fries anyway".

Anyway article is here, it's really quite a good read.

FAT PROFIT - You want Onion Rings with that? They're already in the burger - along with bacon, cheese, BBQ sauce, and a corporate philosophy that says to hell with the health police. How a fast food chain is pushing gluttony to new extremes and changing America's attitude towards eating.

http://www.fracknaps.com/read/?p=SFFYTBAO

I'd only believe that if:

the Hamburglar was shoving his stolen burgers down my gullet.
we lived in some weird, Orwellian future where the fast food companies decided what we eat.

Maybe the government should hold us by the hand when we cross the street, order food, and make sure we buy the proper toilet paper so we don't get a nasty rash.FragStains

And maybe we should give them the remote so we don't get brain owies and our childrens don't become evil.

They're not trying to kill anyone, they're just giving consumers what they want. Yeah, they're not exactly saving lives with a 2/3 pound double bacon cheeseburger (which, btw, if you've never had it: It's like an orgy in your mouth) but at the same time they're not forcing you to eat it. That's the thing about American food culture: we all like to think that we want to eat healthy food in healthy portions, we know that we should, but when push comes to shove we do the exact opposite. You think that resturants and food chains have been increasing the amount of food you get in your meal because they want to? Hell no. They do it because that's what people want: tons of food. And people don't want a ton of salad, they want a ton of meat, salt, and condiments. Believe me, if companies thought that they could compete with small portions of healthy food then they would because small salads and water are a lot cheaper for companies than enormous hamburger patties and soft drinks.

Companies should be able to sell the worst food imaginable, as long as they don't lie to the public about it. Indviduals in a free society should be able to eat whatever they want.Rhazakna

I agree totally with that. There is something wrong with selling unhealthy food as healthy. That's why I liked what I read about the Carls Jr philosophy in the article. They won't hide the fact that it is unhelathy. Up to you to eat whatever you want.

Personally I won't eat Mcdonalds or BK, it's a crap fest of artificial products. I'll happily eat a REAL burger with REAL beef and cheddar/swiss eating out for dinner once in a while. They should stop calling them beef burgers at the major chains, because they're not.

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Companies should be able to sell the worst food imaginable, as long as they don't lie to the public about it. Indviduals in a free society should be able to eat whatever they want.Bedhouin

I agree totally with that. There is something wrong with selling unhealthy food as healthy. That's why I liked what I read about the Carls Jr philosophy in the article. They won't hide the fact that it is unhelathy. Up to you to eat whatever you want.

Personally I won't eat Mcdonalds or BK, it's a crap fest of artificial products. I'll happily eat a REAL burger with REAL beef and cheddar/swiss eating out for dinner once in a while. They should stop calling them beef burgers at the major chains, because they're not.

Oh, McDonalds and Burger King Burgers aren't made out of beef?

Well, then, what ARE they made out of?

[QUOTE="Bedhouin"]

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Companies should be able to sell the worst food imaginable, as long as they don't lie to the public about it. Indviduals in a free society should be able to eat whatever they want.MrGeezer

I agree totally with that. There is something wrong with selling unhealthy food as healthy. That's why I liked what I read about the Carls Jr philosophy in the article. They won't hide the fact that it is unhelathy. Up to you to eat whatever you want.

Personally I won't eat Mcdonalds or BK, it's a crap fest of artificial products. I'll happily eat a REAL burger with REAL beef and cheddar/swiss eating out for dinner once in a while. They should stop calling them beef burgers at the major chains, because they're not.

Oh, McDonalds and Burger King Burgers aren't made out of beef?

Well, then, what ARE they made out of?

Evil. Duh.

Every part of the cow. Thats their definition of beef. It's certainly not mine.Bedhouin

Their burgers are made out of every part of the cow?

Do you have any evidence that you can proide to support such an assertion?

Their burgers are made out of every part of the cow?

Do you have any evidence that you can proide to support such an assertion?

MrGeezer

Will Mad Cows Kill The Big Mac?

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2001/03/26/mcdonalds/index1.html

"How do you know what's in a hamburger?" she asks. "There's something called 'mechanically recovered meat' and that's a serious, serious problem. It can have spinal cord in it, and that's the infectious part with regard to mad cow disease. People are going to look a little more suspiciously at hamburger, at least in Europe. I don't think most Americans have any idea about recovered meat," she says.

Relax mate. You can keep eating there. I really don't care. All I said is that I don't trust their food. If I need a burger fix, I'll either have one made at home, or I'll go to a nice place and get a proper gourmet burger. Fast food is cheap for a reason. I don't like poor quality products - especially not my food.

its called freedom of choice, dont want to eat there, there are PLENTY of alternatives.

beside why would they want to kill their customers anyway

[QUOTE="Bedhouin"]

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Companies should be able to sell the worst food imaginable, as long as they don't lie to the public about it. Indviduals in a free society should be able to eat whatever they want.MrGeezer

I agree totally with that. There is something wrong with selling unhealthy food as healthy. That's why I liked what I read about the Carls Jr philosophy in the article. They won't hide the fact that it is unhelathy. Up to you to eat whatever you want.

Personally I won't eat Mcdonalds or BK, it's a crap fest of artificial products. I'll happily eat a REAL burger with REAL beef and cheddar/swiss eating out for dinner once in a while. They should stop calling them beef burgers at the major chains, because they're not.

Oh, McDonalds and Burger King Burgers aren't made out of beef?

Well, then, what ARE they made out of?

Some unknown Creature.

its almost as if they are fattening us up for the zombies

*gasp* maybey they are zomibes!

Even worse, they want to blow up the world. That's how they'll make the big bucks.

But seriously, this is the real world, not some movie or videogame. How are they supposed to make a profit if they kill the people who buy their products?

Yup, they want to kill you. I work at mc donlads and trust me.. THEY DO. they make the healthy (salad) unhealthy (bacon ranch salad with crispy chicken)elite_destroyer

Yeah, my buddy who worked for MD said that the salads are not as healthy as they say they are..Oh and is it true that the spice that is put on the hamburger patties made to make you addicted to it?

Don't order the big mac with an order of large fries if you don't want to get pounds. After all, you are not being forced to stuff cheeseburgers in your mouths.

They want to make money. No one forces you to eat fast food, and they have every right to sell what they want to sell.SmashBrosLegend

All I said is that I don't trust their food.

Bedhouin

No, that's not all you said. You said that their burgers aren't made out of beef, which was a complete and utter lie. Then you claimed that it's made out of every part of the cow, and that article that you posted says no such thing. Now you're pretending like you didn't just say stuff which was completely and utterly untrue.

If fast food is really that bad, I don't see why you have to lie about it in order to make it look bad.

I guess if you don't like it, don't eat it. Order something else if you're more concerned with your health. Or, eat in moderation, don't go overboard. It's funny when I go out and see some people order a ton of food and then turn around and complain about eating healthy etc etc.

As for me, food is food. If I'm hungry, have the money, and it sounds like it will stop the hunger pangs, I'm all for it. Give me a stacked burger anyday.

Personal responsibility. Don't want to be fat? Don't order that freakin' triple cheeseburger with extra cheese.ElZilcho90

Maybe the government should hold us by the hand when we cross the street, order food, and make sure we buy the proper toilet paper so we don't get a nasty rash.FragStains

^^^^That indicates the end of the argument. Great statement.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer]No, that's not all you said. You said that their burgers aren't made out of beef, which was a complete and utter lie. Then you claimed that it's made out of every part of the cow, and that article that you posted says no such thing. Now you're pretending like you didn't just say stuff which was completely and utterly untrue.

If fast food is really that bad, I don't see why you have to lie about it in order to make it look bad.

I'll highlight my point for you:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1482140.stm

MRM is meat residue which is left on the carcass after all the prime cuts have been removed.

It is pressure-blasted off the bones by machinery and forms a reddish slurry which resembles mince.

Some companies then use it to bulk up their meat products.

Experts say it is likely that bits of spinal cord - the part of a cow most likely to be contaminated with BSE - could be found in mechanically recovered meat.

So ok sorry I was wrong in a very literal sense. To make you happy, "It's partially made up of left overs from the carcass of the cow. Any remaining part of the entire cow carcass".

That's still not my definition of beef. And again I reiterate - eat as much of it as you like.

So, on the same token, I'm just curious: do all of you also believe that we should not prosecute drug dealers, just the users? Isn't it the same thing?Engrish_Major

So ok sorry I was wrong in a very literal sense. To make you happy, "It's partially made up of left overs from the carcass of the cow. Any remaining part of the entire cow carcass".

Bedhouin

Yes, with the "Remaining parts" largely being MEAT. Hmm...if only there were a word for cow meat...

Furthermore, that is nowhere NEAR your original assertion that it includes "every part of the cow". What remains on the bones is meat, nervous tissue, and connective tissue.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]So, on the same token, I'm just curious: do all of you also believe that we should not prosecute drug dealers, just the users? Isn't it the same thing?killtactics

Hey, eating a diet consisting solely of iceberg lettuce also results in nutritional deficiencies. Let's ban iceberg lettuce, too.

Hey french fries wouldn't be so unhealthy if they weren't deep fried and then covered in salt. So let's ban cooking oil and salt.

As many have mentioned, like alot of other companies who sell drugs that are toxic, or factories that drop their waste on rivers/creeks, or companies that sell pesticides that are carcinogenic. Some wouldn't mind killing or hurting ppl just to gain his buck and living.

BTW haven't you guys heard of Shawerma ?? I gave up on fast food long ago and Shawerma is in my opinion better and much more healthier.

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]So, on the same token, I'm just curious: do all of you also believe that we should not prosecute drug dealers, just the users? Isn't it the same thing?MrGeezer

Hey, eating a diet consisting solely of iceberg lettuce also results in nutritional deficiencies. Let's ban iceberg lettuce, too.

Hey french fries wouldn't be so unhealthy if they weren't deep fried and then covered in salt. So let's ban cooking oil and salt.

That's not the point. What could (maybe should?) happen is more control on how food is processed, not the banning of the ingredients themselves.

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]So, on the same token, I'm just curious: do all of you also believe that we should not prosecute drug dealers, just the users? Isn't it the same thing?MrGeezer

Hey, eating a diet consisting solely of iceberg lettuce also results in nutritional deficiencies. Let's ban iceberg lettuce, too.

Hey french fries wouldn't be so unhealthy if they weren't deep fried and then covered in salt. So let's ban cooking oil and salt.

i eat most burgers at home (1 chicken burger with fries and coke almost everyday or sometiems i eat macdonalds filet-o-fish burger) yet im the thinest person at home....therefore its all lies LIES I TELL YAmingo123

Thin sometimes doesnt = Healthy.