Are iPads better than textbooks in schools?

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HARTFORD, Conn. - For incoming freshmen at western Connecticut's suburban Brookfield High School, hefting a backpack weighed down with textbooks is about to give way to tapping out notes and flipping electronic pages on a glossy iPad tablet computer. The iPads generally cost districts between $500 and $600, depending on what accessories and service plans are purchased. Educators say the sleek, flat tablet computers offer a variety of benefits. They include interactive programs to demonstrate problem-solving in math, scratchpad features for note-taking and bookmarking, the ability to immediately send quizzes and homework to teachers, and the chance to view videos or tutorials on everything from important historical events to learning foreign languages. They're especially popular in special education services, for children with autism spectrum disorders and learning disabilities, and for those who learn best when something is explained with visual images, not just through talking. Story here. There are some drawbacks, such as accidental deletion of homework files, keeping the battery charged, not to mention it's easier to damage an iPad. Not every course is available, so you still might have to lug around some books. But it is nice to be able to forward homework to teachers. So how does OT see this? A welcome improvement, or might you wax nostalgic, missing the feeling of a weighty tome in your hands?
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Once prices come down on tablets and iPad's, digital text books will take over and it will be a very welcomed switch; sadly I think I will likely be done with school before this happens but who knows. Going with digital text books would save text book publishers money as they would no longer have to print hundreds of pages per book with a hard cover, and these savings would in theory be passed down to the school, and because digital text books could be used on any computer, iPad, tablet, or phone the school would not even to provide or purchase devices for students, unless they did not have enough income to provide one. The school would also save money if what I said above was the case because books could no longer be damaged, lost, or stolen, meaning they would only have to replace the books when upgrading to a more current edition.

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#3 JML897
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I don't get it, wouldn't it be better just to get netbooks/laptops for $500 or less? Netbooks aren't much bigger to carry around than an iPad is.
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#4 horgen  Moderator
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I would welcome the change, cause carrying a few books with 1200 pages each... Isn't that heavy. If you can't lift that you got a serious problem. :P

As for taking notes, I prefer pen and paper.
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#5 ForsakenWicked
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Tablets do offer some advantage however, they're not yet a replacement for notebooks. There are still some things you can't get done in an iPad. Besides, some people like me have problems typing on those things without keyboard, LOL.
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#6 Omni-Wrath
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Notebooks are cheaper and have a keyboard. This seems like a real waste of money.

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#7 Allicrombie
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we're one step closer to the PADD.
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#8 comp_atkins
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waste of taxpayer money.

books are cheap and can take alot of abuse from students..

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#9 coolbeans90
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Some issues:

1) LCDs are hard on the eyes after a while. (admittedly this is mitigated by screens seen on devices such as the Kindle)

2) From my experience with electronic textbooks, I have found page flipping to be a bit easier when skimming for a formula which is on some page which you can't quite remember. It's just faster to navigate, IMO. A search function might help.

3) You can highlight scribble notes in textbooks. I imagine this parity will disappear eventually.

While there is definitely room for improvement, for the time being, the answer to the question is a resound "no".

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#10 Serraph105
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honestly I would find an ipad too distracting because as much as you can use it as a education tool, well, Angry Birds and many other games are just a finger touch away. I find my laptop far less distracting for some reason and thus more versitle.

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#11 UprootedDreamer
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I do not think it is necessary for them to replace the books with an iPad.
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#12 Serraph105
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Some issues:

1) LCDs are hard on the eyes after a while. (admittedly this is mitigated by screens seen on devices such as the Kindle)

2) From my experience with electronic textbooks, I have found page flipping to be a bit easier when skimming for a formula which is on some page which you can't quite remember. It's just faster to navigate, IMO. A search function might help.

3) You can highlight scribble notes in textbooks. I imagine this parity will disappear eventually.

While there is definitely room for improvement, for the time being, the answer to the question is a resound "no".

coolbeans90

I find using the search button far preferable to flipping through pages, but to each his own.

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#13 Egonga
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But lugging around heavy textbooks is the only real exercise most nerds get :o

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#14 Serraph105
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But lugging around heavy textbooks is the only real exercise most nerds get :o

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*ahem* I use wii-fit while watching tv instead of just lying on the couch.
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#15 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Some issues:

1) LCDs are hard on the eyes after a while. (admittedly this is mitigated by screens seen on devices such as the Kindle)

2) From my experience with electronic textbooks, I have found page flipping to be a bit easier when skimming for a formula which is on some page which you can't quite remember. It's just faster to navigate, IMO. A search function might help.

3) You can highlight scribble notes in textbooks. I imagine this parity will disappear eventually.

While there is definitely room for improvement, for the time being, the answer to the question is a resound "no".

Serraph105

I find using the search button far preferable to flipping through pages, but to each his own.

For many cases, I would agree. That said, it depends on what one is looking for and how much information they have which is conducive to a search. For instance, I'm an engineering major, so finding which page an equation is on without knowing exactly what it is called is a pain without Greek characters. It rarely takes me more than a few seconds to grab what I'm looking for manually. In my experience, the search function has generally proved inferior in terms of time.

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#16 markop2003
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iPads seem a tad expensive. Tablets have potential in education, but I don't think the infrastructure exists ATM and I doubt it will soon.
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#17 comp_atkins
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sometimes i read these things and think the school is buying technology for the sake of saying "look how tech savvy we are, we're preparing your kids for the future" as opposed to actually benefiting the students in a cost effective way..
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i see tablets becoming a staple of educational tools in the near future. however, due to the extremely expensive nature of the ipad, i doubt that it will be whats used. it will probably be cheap locked down tablets that are only capable of accessing educational material.

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#19 comp_atkins
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i see tablets becoming a staple of educational tools in the near future. however, due to the extremely expensive nature of the ipad, i doubt that it will be whats used. it will probably be cheap locked down tablets that are only capable of accessing educational material.

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which makes more sense in the end anyway... do you really want to give a bunch of 14 year-olds a bight shiny distraction machine for them to play with all class?
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#20 taterfrickintot
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[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

i see tablets becoming a staple of educational tools in the near future. however, due to the extremely expensive nature of the ipad, i doubt that it will be whats used. it will probably be cheap locked down tablets that are only capable of accessing educational material.

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which makes more sense in the end anyway... do you really want to give a bunch of 14 year-olds a bight shiny distraction machine for them to play with all class?

exactly. we dont want kids playing with stupid apps while teachers try to give lectures.
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they shouldnt use ipads, they should use tablets made just for school, which means no games or anything like that at all. but if they did do they I can tell they would be so UGLY and annoying to stare at all the time. books are better
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#22 Nonstop-Madness
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A tablet would be amazing but an iPad is not functional enough and cost way too much for high schools. A cheap Inspiron Duo Tablet-esque PC with Windows 8 and pen input would be absolutely amazing.

EDIT - check this outhttp://www.mobylize.org/index.html

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#23 Tauruslink
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Embrace technology. I see no problem with this.
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There's a downside... people will want to steal them. And they break. No one wants to steal textbooks, and they last far longer. Plus, they are far cheaper. If I were mayor of a city, I WOULD NOT OK the expenditures on iPads and tablets, especially when the economy sucks so much. Private schools? They can knock themselves out, but portable tech in public schools just isn't feasible.

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#25 Serraph105
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they shouldnt use ipads, they should use tablets made just for school, which means no games or anything like that at all. but if they did do they I can tell they would be so UGLY and annoying to stare at all the time. books are betterhadoken
people jailbreak ipads and tablets all the time. I wonder what would stop people from figuring out how to do that with a school issued tablet.
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#26 CaptainAhab13
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My school has switched to iPads this year... it's strange, but I kind of like it. I still use a few textbooks, but everything is pretty much electronic now.
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#27 SF_KiLLaMaN
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waste of taxpayer money.

books are cheap and can take alot of abuse from students..

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Books are cheap? I just payed over $500 for 4 books for college. Yeah, they're real cheap.
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

waste of taxpayer money.

books are cheap and can take alot of abuse from students..

SF_KiLLaMaN
Books are cheap? I just payed over $500 for 4 books for college. Yeah, they're real cheap.

we're not talking about college textbooks. we're talking about middle-school / high school here.. keep up with it, man
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#29 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I'm old-fashioned and just buy the textbooks.

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#30 lensflare15
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If I had in Ipad in school, I would learn nothing. That would just completely distract me...

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#31 CammiTac
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If they gave out iPads to high school students where I live, I think muggings of high school students would increase.

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#32 Jackc8
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These days, they could probably get by without either textbooks or iPads. Just a notebook and a pencil is really about all that's required to do well in most classes. I can't even remember how many textbooks I purchased in college, only to end up reading maybe ten pages from them - if anything at all. Look up the subject on Wikipedia and you'll get about as much as you're actually required to read out of a textbook.

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#33 ChrisSpartan117
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Does this mean they give you an iPad with e-textbooks already loaded, and you can keep them?

I wish I was at that school.

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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

waste of taxpayer money.

books are cheap and can take alot of abuse from students..

Books are cheap? I just payed over $500 for 4 books for college. Yeah, they're real cheap.

I know someone who had to pay over $600 for three.
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#35 Overlord93
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No, no they are not. Those iPads would be coming back in pieces. And it would also fuel the great old excuse of "I can't hand in my homework because the file got corrupted" Aaaah, the modern age...letting you get away with anything
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#36 Wolls
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I'm not sure many students I know can afford iPads, and if you can you are doing something wrong :P
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#37 ferrari2001
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No, like all technology it is unreliable. Not to mention lack of page accurate page numbers in some digital books and inability to make proper notes and underlines within in text. (you can still do it, it's simply more difficult and not as clear.
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#38 dercoo
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waste of taxpayer money.

books are cheap and can take alot of abuse from students..

comp_atkins

:lol:

I wish school books were cheap.

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#39 MuddVader
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I wont read this, because I already disagree. Its NOT iPads that are better than textbooks, its just any type of device that would allow you to hold a digital library of books that are better than text books.

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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Why does it have to be the Apple product?
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#41 theone86
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These days, they could probably get by without either textbooks or iPads. Just a notebook and a pencil is really about all that's required to do well in most classes. I can't even remember how many textbooks I purchased in college, only to end up reading maybe ten pages from them - if anything at all. Look up the subject on Wikipedia and you'll get about as much as you're actually required to read out of a textbook.

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Most professors I've had would beg to differ with you, in fact most of them would fail you on principle if they knew you were getting all your information off Wikipedia.

Anyways, I've been saying for a long time that digital distribution should replace textbooks to reduce costs. Aside from being easier to carry, there are fewer materials involved, you can do it at a far lower cost, and you can offer updates without charging students exorbitant sums for new editions. The biggest downside is if publishers decide that they're not going to pass the savings on to the customers and keep their prices high because they can.

As for using it for notes, less mess, less materials, less to carry around. The recognition software isn't great right now, but that will get better with time.

As others have said, shouldn't be exclusive to Mac.

As for people saying students can't afford it, do you know what books cost? I paid $190 for two of by books this semester, and my books costs are typically well over $100 (that's buying mostly used). Buying a $600 reader would pay for itself within three semesters easily, possibly even two.

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#42 campzor
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ipad no... e-reader yee.... everyday i have to carry at least 3 thick textbooks for my IT course whereas it would be much better to just have a digital copy
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

waste of taxpayer money.

books are cheap and can take alot of abuse from students..

comp_atkins
Books are cheap? I just payed over $500 for 4 books for college. Yeah, they're real cheap.

we're not talking about college textbooks. we're talking about middle-school / high school here.. keep up with it, man

...I paid well over $250 for my high school textbooks, and my school has "switched" to the iPad.
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#44 darkmask1991
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I don't get it, wouldn't it be better just to get netbooks/laptops for $500 or less? Netbooks aren't much bigger to carry around than an iPad is. JML897
And are much cmore pratical.
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#45 blangenakker
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the students would be too busy trying to get games to work on them
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#46 XCyberForceX
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Seriously, I think having your textbooks available electronically makes alot of sense for students and educators. BUT, publishers will lose alot of money if this happened andwill try hard to squash it.

I vote for Ipads rather than textbooks!

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#47 DarthJohnova
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No.

Expensive, waste of money, mugging target, gimmick, unnecessary, ugh. Read the textbook, it's not hard.

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#48 zeldaluff
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I actually opted for a physical copy of one of the textbooks I need, since I figured the internet would be too much of a temptation and ultimately a distraction.

Besides, it's easier for me to focus on a real textbook. And they're not that much cheaper, a digital copy was still $110 or so, down from $140.

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#49 APiranhaAteMyVa
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E books would be a good idea, rather than the massive textbooks school tend to have. Although I still think blank paper textbooks are needed to develop handwriting skills.
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#50 gatorteen
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No, no they are not. Those iPads would be coming back in pieces. And it would also fuel the great old excuse of "I can't hand in my homework because the file got corrupted" Aaaah, the modern age...letting you get away with anything Overlord93

There would probably be insurance plans that are mandatory for students. Also, the excuse "I can't hand in my homework because the file got corrupted" doesn't fly with most teachers.