Are we seeing the END of the Republican Party?

Disturbing news if you're a fan of the GOP. A recent Gallup poll reveals Republican support among demographic groups has declined in all areas but regular church goers since 2001. Since 2001, where party affiliation in America was bascially split 50% Democrat, 50% Republican, we now see registration at 53% Democrat, 39% Republican.

So what's the problem you ask? At least the Repubs have the frequent church goers right? Not so fast. Another recent Gallup Poll reveals a -4% change in regular church goers from 1992- 2008. So, are we basically seeing the last days of the Reublican Party? Or will beliefs switch again?

I don't believe every poll I read about. And to put it simply: No.

why is it that we lose we one election and it's the end of the republican party how does this make sense XD4NTESINF3RNOX

It's cyclical. The party really seems to be split right now over certain decisions.

No, the Republican party isn't going to go away. It will most likely change it's official position on some issues to be more moderate, but it isn't going away. bededog

why is it that we lose we one election and it's the end of the republican party how does this make sense XD4NTESINF3RNOX

The GOP is in a phase of regression at the moment, but in time people will feel the need to blame a lot of their problems on the present administration and the easiest way to do that is to vote for thei rivals. That, or there'll be more vote rigging.

In any case, the US political system has thrived on a marked polarity for ages, and despite the fluctuations in fortune of the respective parties neither will face permanent decline anytime soon.

I highly doubt that....

Nah, who else is going to be pro-gun? :P I think it will really depend on how well, or how poorly Mr. President does his job. Personally, now I know I am gonna get attacked, but I think that Obama has just made me want to be more right wing, seeing as he is just doing the opposite of what I would of liked to vote for. Just opinions :)Spicy-McHaggis

You may yet fall for Barack. Check out all the sabre rattling over in Afghanistan. There will be blood and tears, if that's what floats your boat.

This sounds like PC gaming. People have been calling for the death of PC gaming for years, and yet...

[QUOTE="alexbaricco"]

The GOP is in a phase of regression at the moment, but in time people will feel the need to blame a lot of their problems on the present administration and the easiest way to do that is to vote for thei rivals. That, or there'll be more vote rigging.

In any case, the US political system has thrived on a marked polarity for ages, and despite the fluctuations in fortune of the respective parties neither will face permanent decline anytime soon.

Spicy-McHaggis

I agree, and not to be "radical", but more optimisitc, in an incredibly negative sense, the US, to me, is looking like Germany in the 30's.

Depression, looking for someone to blame, so Hitler blames the Jews (Obama blames the Republicans (just stick with me here)), and I am thinking/waiting for the rest to happen :?

:lol: This is a pretty bad case of Godwin's law right here.

[QUOTE="Spicy-McHaggis"]Nah, who else is going to be pro-gun? :P I think it will really depend on how well, or how poorly Mr. President does his job. Personally, now I know I am gonna get attacked, but I think that Obama has just made me want to be more right wing, seeing as he is just doing the opposite of what I would of liked to vote for. Just opinions :)alexbaricco

You may yet fall for Barack. Check out all the sabre rattling over in Afghanistan. There will be blood and tears, if that's what floats your boat.

[QUOTE="alexbaricco"]

The GOP is in a phase of regression at the moment, but in time people will feel the need to blame a lot of their problems on the present administration and the easiest way to do that is to vote for thei rivals. That, or there'll be more vote rigging.

In any case, the US political system has thrived on a marked polarity for ages, and despite the fluctuations in fortune of the respective parties neither will face permanent decline anytime soon.

Spicy-McHaggis

I agree, and not to be "radical", but more optimisitc, in an incredibly negative sense, the US, to me, is looking like Germany in the 30's.

Depression, looking for someone to blame, so Hitler blames the Jews (Obama blames the Republicans (just stick with me here)), and I am thinking/waiting for the rest to happen :?

[QUOTE="Spicy-McHaggis"]

[QUOTE="alexbaricco"]

The GOP is in a phase of regression at the moment, but in time people will feel the need to blame a lot of their problems on the present administration and the easiest way to do that is to vote for thei rivals. That, or there'll be more vote rigging.

In any case, the US political system has thrived on a marked polarity for ages, and despite the fluctuations in fortune of the respective parties neither will face permanent decline anytime soon.

BlueBirdTS

I agree, and not to be "radical", but more optimisitc, in an incredibly negative sense, the US, to me, is looking like Germany in the 30's.

Depression, looking for someone to blame, so Hitler blames the Jews (Obama blames the Republicans (just stick with me here)), and I am thinking/waiting for the rest to happen :?

:lol: This is a pretty bad case of Godwin's law right here.

It adds up, does it not?

It adds up, does it not?

Spicy-McHaggis

I suppose so.

A split in the Republican Party would be fine and dandy. I think the reason the GOP is going through such a difficult phase is the lure of a more moderate political environment from the Independent and Democratic parties. Obviously, the Dems are still leaning to the left. Those who are die-hard in one or more topics, abortion, gay marriage, etc. would stick with the Repubs, and probably wander to the far right if such a party presented itself through this divide. It would surely weaken the party for a while...but who doesn't like communist/socialist America? ;)

[QUOTE="Spicy-McHaggis"]

[QUOTE="alexbaricco"]

The GOP is in a phase of regression at the moment, but in time people will feel the need to blame a lot of their problems on the present administration and the easiest way to do that is to vote for thei rivals. That, or there'll be more vote rigging.

In any case, the US political system has thrived on a marked polarity for ages, and despite the fluctuations in fortune of the respective parties neither will face permanent decline anytime soon.

-Sun_Tzu-

I agree, and not to be "radical", but more optimisitc, in an incredibly negative sense, the US, to me, is looking like Germany in the 30's.

Depression, looking for someone to blame, so Hitler blames the Jews (Obama blames the Republicans (just stick with me here)), and I am thinking/waiting for the rest to happen :?

But I am a Republican, I have to be cynical about this situation :) But it's looking pretty correct in my opinion.

And since Hitler was a nut job, and Obama has a pretty shady past as well(though not as bad....yet), I'd so say that.......

Hopefuly not. A healthy opposition is always a good thing in the American political system. It keeps all sides a little more honest and accoutable. No competition is always bad for the people.

And since Hitler was a nut job, and Obama has a pretty shady past as well(though not as bad....yet), I'd so say that.......

Spicy-McHaggis

Did you just compare Obama and Hitler in a slight yet direct way? Obama was shady? How? Never mind, you will just most likely spew some Fox News created BS....

I still don't understand how America can stand a two party system. joao_22990

I don't particularly like the system either, but it's better than having a bunch of fractured political factions.

A split in the Republican Party would be fine and dandy. I think the reason the GOP is going through such a difficult phase is the lure of a more moderate political environment from the Independent and Democratic parties. Obviously, the Dems are still leaning to the left. Those who are die-hard in one or more topics, abortion, gay marriage, etc. would stick with the Repubs, and probably wander to the far right if such a party presented itself through this divide. It would surely weaken the party for a while...but who doesn't like communist/socialist America? ;)

TirOrn

no....remember when they were saying it was the end of the democratic party just 8 short years ago?......it's all cyclical....Omni-Slash

The End? Silly people!

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="Spicy-McHaggis"]

I agree, and not to be "radical", but more optimisitc, in an incredibly negative sense, the US, to me, is looking like Germany in the 30's.

Depression, looking for someone to blame, so Hitler blames the Jews (Obama blames the Republicans (just stick with me here)), and I am thinking/waiting for the rest to happen :?

Spicy-McHaggis

But I am a Republican, I have to be cynical about this situation :) But it's looking pretty correct in my opinion.

And since Hitler was a nut job, and Obama has a pretty shady past as well(though not as bad....yet), I'd so say that.......

Your whole argument is "He blamed someone, just like Hitler!"

What's next, "Abraham Lincoln had facial hair, just like Hitler!"

why is it that we lose we one election and it's the end of the republican party how does this make sense XD4NTESINF3RNOX

if they don't go more to the center i think so. but they probably will go more to the center so i doubt it

[QUOTE="joao_22990"]I still don't understand how America can stand a two party system. BlueBirdTS

I don't particularly like the system either, but it's better than having a bunch of fractured political factions.

[QUOTE="BlueBirdTS"]

[QUOTE="joao_22990"]I still don't understand how America can stand a two party system. joao_22990

I don't particularly like the system either, but it's better than having a bunch of fractured political factions.

Well, first of all, the two parties don't really represent "two colliding ideals". And the American system of government was designed to progress methodically, not suddenly. -Sun_Tzu-

So I think we can all agree there is a probable chance this is the end of the current Republican Party, and that if changes are not made it can't be good news for them. Maniacc1

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Well, first of all, the two parties don't really represent "two colliding ideals". And the American system of government was designed to progress methodically, not suddenly. joao_22990

Now, if you were to compare the political parties of the U.S. with those of Europe, you will find some pretty striking differences. The two major parties in the U.S. are not parties based on a specific ideology, unlike many major parties in Europe, and they are extremely decentralized, thanks to the work of James Madison, compared to their European counterparts. Thus, progress in America is extremely slow and methodical, even compared to other successful nations, because even though that diversity of thought is still there, there isn't an equivalent diversity of power. A very radical party in America would flounder almost instantaneously in the U.S., and would most likely not acquire any sustainable power, whereas a radical party in Europe has a betteropportunity to gain lasting power in the government

Oh please people!!!!!!!!

The political pendulum constantly swings back and forth, and right now it just happens to be in the Democrat's corner.

Basically if this economy doesn't recover, or the public thinks Obama has screwed up, Reps will make inroads in 2012. If the public remains happy with Obama's performance, then the Reps will continue to bleed seats in Congress. Either way, the Republicans will eventually come back into power. Now it's just a question of whether it will be a slow recovery or fast recovery, and that kinda depends on the Dems.

I mean the Dems control the House, Senate (most likely going to have a fillibuster proof majority), and the White House. Right now they have a bigger majority than Bush ever had, and they are going to have to stand on their own two feet and not blame everything on Bush. And I have a feeling Bush being gone is like the training wheels coming off for the Democratic Party.

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]So I think we can all agree there is a probable chance this is the end of the current Republican Party, and that if changes are not made it can't be good news for them. XD4NTESINF3RNOX

[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="Maniacc1"]So I think we can all agree there is a probable chance this is the end of the current Republican Party, and that if changes are not made it can't be good news for them. Maniacc1

But still, the Democratic and Republican parties are both moderate parties. I wouldn't call the Democratic party "liberal" and I wouldn't call the Republican party "conservative", although the two parties do have members of those ideologies, respectively.

Now, if you were to compare the political parties of the U.S. with those of Europe, you will find some pretty striking differences. The two major parties in the U.S. are not parties based on a specific ideology, unlike many major parties in Europe, and they are extremely decentralized, thanks to the work of James Madison, compared to their European counterparts. Thus, progress in America is extremely slow and methodical, even compared to other successful nations, because even though that diversity of thought is still there, there isn't an equivalent diversity of power. A very radical party in America would flounder almost instantaneously in the U.S., and would most likely not acquire any sustainable power, whereas a radical party in Europe has a betteropportunity to gain lasting power in the government

-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="Maniacc1"]So I think we can all agree there is a probable chance this is the end of the current Republican Party, and that if changes are not made it can't be good news for them. Maniacc1