as a guest on bill maher said, it would be best for us to kick them while they are down.
and to quote bill maher " the idea of a swine flu party is actually more popular than the republican party"
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as a guest on bill maher said, it would be best for us to kick them while they are down.
and to quote bill maher " the idea of a swine flu party is actually more popular than the republican party"
what does the GOP do? see how politically involved I am :lol: XD4NTESINF3RNOXIt's okay. I don't think even most Republicans know what they do anymore...
:P I never understood why D.C. didn't show the love for Reagan.DC is 56% black. DC pretty much always votes overwhelmingly Democratic.Maniacc1
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The GOP is in a phase of regression at the moment, but in time people will feel the need to blame a lot of their problems on the present administration and the easiest way to do that is to vote for thei rivals. That, or there'll be more vote rigging.
In any case, the US political system has thrived on a marked polarity for ages, and despite the fluctuations in fortune of the respective parties neither will face permanent decline anytime soon.
-Sun_Tzu-
I agree, and not to be "radical", but more optimisitc, in an incredibly negative sense, the US, to me, is looking like Germany in the 30's.
Depression, looking for someone to blame, so Hitler blames the Jews (Obama blames the Republicans (just stick with me here)), and I am thinking/waiting for the rest to happen :?
Or...the U.S. is looking like the U.S. in the 30's - you know - when the Democrats blamed the Republicans. Doesn't that sound familiar?To be fair, it kind of was with republicans sitting on their hands expecting the markets to "work themselves out" when they clearly weren't.The republican may splinter sometime in the future. The main problem I see with the republican party is the religious wing and the exclusionary nature of their beliefs.
IF you grow up going to American schools, you are basically being taught traditional conservative values, like limited government, capitalism, non interventionism etc. the problem develops is when social conservatism is brought into the mix and since Americans place social issues above all else, even financial collapse, people picks parties on those issues. If liberals weren't so effective in clashing with social conservatives on a daily and national basis and making everything about social issues, it would be very difficult for non fiscal conservative democrats to get elected.
Take Texas for example, many of the democrats there are fiscal conservatives because without such a stance, they would probably never win.
There are gay conservatives, atheist conservatives, black, mexican, etc, but its because of the strong religious wing of the republican party, they feel isolated and pushed out. If the social conservatives ever eased up, any Democrat with liberal progressive socialist views wouldn't stand a chance.
No, the Republican party isn't going to go away. It will most likely change it's official position on some issues to be more moderate, but it isn't going away. bededog
That would be the worse thing for it to do. It should be more liberal on social issues like abortion, gay marriage, etc, and more conservative fiscally. In other words more like Barry Goldwater (true conservative)/ Libertarian.
other people here have expressed my thoughts exactly, there's no sure thing in politics. Jimmy Carter, when he won the presidency, had massive majorities in both houses (filibuster proof majority in the senate), and he lost by a landslide in 1980. Furthermore, people were saying that there is an end to the democratic party just 8 years ago when the GOP gained seats in both houses of congress.
Now, I think there really is only one way for the GOP to really end, and that is if we see a large economic turn-around before november of next year (2010). People will probably vote overwhelmingly for Obama in 2012, thinking that his policies were somehow responsible for the economic recovery.
Now, Obama has stated that he wants to "deflate" bubbles before they pop so they dont harm everyone. This, it seems, can only be done through extensive central economic planning. This pervasive central planning that Obama wants to do, on top of the cap-and-trade(which I think is a good idea overall if everyone in the world does it, but we can't do it in the middle of a recession and I haven't heard a peep about other OECD countries doing it) and universal healthcare will ultimately require expansive central economic planning. And I'm pretty confident that all of that will further delay any economic recovery.
[QUOTE="bededog"]No, the Republican party isn't going to go away. It will most likely change it's official position on some issues to be more moderate, but it isn't going away. trix5817
That would be the worse thing for it to do. It should be more liberal on social issues like abortion, gay marriage, etc, and more conservative fiscally. In other words more like Barry Goldwater (true conservative)/ Libertarian.
I agree 100% except the abortion issue, the GOP really should not abandon its stance on the abortion issue. It's wrong (abortion is) and its a good way to reach out to minorities, who on the whole are socially conservative (remember prop 8?)No, it's merely a change in power. I'm sure people thought Republicans were done for back in the depression, and the same for Democrats back after the Civil War. It's common for parties to gain ground for a period and then fall behind after a while.
The republican may splinter sometime in the future. The main problem I see with the republican party is the religious wing and the exclusionary nature of their beliefs.
IF you grow up going to American schools, you are basically being taught traditional conservative values, like limited government, capitalism, non interventionism etc. the problem develops is when social conservatism is brought into the mix and since Americans place social issues above all else, even financial collapse, people picks parties on those issues. If liberals weren't so effective in clashing with social conservatives on a daily and national basis and making everything about social issues, it would be very difficult for non fiscal conservative democrats to get elected.
Take Texas for example, many of the democrats there are fiscal conservatives because without such a stance, they would probably never win.
There are gay conservatives, atheist conservatives, black, mexican, etc, but its because of the strong religious wing of the republican party, they feel isolated and pushed out. If the social conservatives ever eased up, any Democrat with liberal progressive socialist views wouldn't stand a chance.
majwill24
Uhhh...no.
yep, one poll means that an entire political party will collapse and every american will soon be a liberal.shoeman12apparently:lol: i say hopefully not
as a guest on bill maher said, it would be best for us to kick them while they are down.
and to quote bill maher " the idea of a swine flu party is actually more popular than the republican party"
Bill Maher is a smart guy, but he is very wrong about that, among numerous other things.Please Log In to post.
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