Are white/black Americans more native to America or Europe/Africa?

Obviously, the Native Americans are the real indigenous people of America, but Europeans and Africans have been on what is now US soil for at least four to five hundred years. Today, most whites and blacks in the US are racially or ethnically mixed. Most whites have at least two or three European ethnicities, and there are millions who have varying amounts of African and/or Native American ancestry. The same applies for blacks. Most have some degree of European and/or Native American ethnic background. So are whites and blacks more native to the US (because they've been here for almost half a millennium) or are they still racially and ethnically indigenous to Europe and Africa, respectively? I'm talking just on a racial and ethnic standpoint. Don't bring culture into this. I am well aware that whites are far more culturally American than European and blacks more culturally American than African. 

Genetic differentiation takes thousands of years, the first native americans arriving hear around 15-20000 years ago (one controversial study puts it around 30,000).  In addition, Americans aren't going to be uniquely stressed enough to select for genes that will significantly change them from their european counterparts anytime soon, and likewise for African Americans.

Obviously, the Native Americans are the real indigenous people of America, but Europeans and Africans have been on what is now US soil for at least four to five hundred years. Today, most whites and blacks in the US are racially or ethnically mixed. Most whites have at least two or three European ethnicities, and there are millions who have varying amounts of African and/or Native American ancestry. The same applies for blacks. Most have some degree of European and/or Native American ethnic background. So are whites and blacks more native to the US (because they've been here for almost half a millennium) or are they still racially and ethnically indigenous to Europe and Africa, respectively? I'm talking just on a racial and ethnic standpoint. Don't bring culture into this. I am well aware that whites are far more culturally American than European and blacks more culturally American than African. 

gamerguru100

I know this is really minor but most people in America can only trace their ancestroy in America back about roughly 150 to 85 years ago if they are of European descent since most of the mass migrations from Europe only really occured between the 1850s and 1930s.  With people of African descent it is a bit earlier because of the slave trade but even then the slave trade didn't start out with mass amount of slaves from Africa till about early 1800s.  If I am remembering my histroy correctly while there where African slaves in the Americas since the first colonies they didn't really start to become numerous in number as slaves till later on when the Native American slaves began to fall out of favor of use because of declining populations of where the Native American slaves where captured and because they considered Native American slaves to be weaker then African slaves so overall where viewed as less efficent and more costly.  

Besides from that minor bit I would say that the people born and living in America are more American then European/African simply because for the most part the people of America do not follow European/African cultures at all.  There are some traditions that have carried over from Europe/Africa but America has now become its own culture.  Some people are even starting to think that the difference in the English spoken here compared to in Europe, more precisely the UK, is starting to move beyond a different dialect but to its own language.  

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Obviously, the Native Americans are the real indigenous people of America, but Europeans and Africans have been on what is now US soil for at least four to five hundred years. Today, most whites and blacks in the US are racially or ethnically mixed. Most whites have at least two or three European ethnicities, and there are millions who have varying amounts of African and/or Native American ancestry. The same applies for blacks. Most have some degree of European and/or Native American ethnic background. So are whites and blacks more native to the US (because they've been here for almost half a millennium) or are they still racially and ethnically indigenous to Europe and Africa, respectively? I'm talking just on a racial and ethnic standpoint. Don't bring culture into this. I am well aware that whites are far more culturally American than European and blacks more culturally American than African. 

Shadow_Fighter

I know this is really minor but most people in America can only trace their ancestroy in America back about roughly 150 to 85 years ago if they are of European descent since most of the mass migrations from Europe only really occured between the 1850s and 1930s.  With people of African descent it is a bit earlier because of the slave trade but even then the slave trade didn't start out with mass amount of slaves from Africa till about early 1800s.  If I am remembering my histroy correctly while there where African slaves in the Americas since the first colonies they didn't really start to become numerous in number as slaves till later on when the Native American slaves began to fall out of favor of use because of declining populations of where the Native American slaves where captured and because they considered Native American slaves to be weaker then African slaves so overall where viewed as less efficent and more costly.  

Besides from that minor bit I would say that the people born and living in America are more American then European/African simply because for the most part the people of America do not follow European/African cultures at all.  There are some traditions that have carried over from Europe/Africa but America has now become its own culture.  Some people are even starting to think that the difference in the English spoken here compared to in Europe, more precisely the UK, is starting to move beyond a different dialect but to its own language.  

your obsession with race is more revealing about you than you might think.

America, definitely.

your obsession with race is more revealing about you than you might think.

 Zaibach

Indeed.

your obsession with race is more revealing about you than you might think.

 

Zaibach