Are you left or right?

Right fiscally, left socially.

Pretty left leaning.

Way left.

Left-leaning on social issues. Right-leaning on economic issues.foxhound_fox

but have stayed left regarding social issues.

Communist_Soul

What exactly do you two mean by left on social issues? That doesn't make any sense.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Left-leaning on social issues. Right-leaning on economic issues.Socijalisticka

but have stayed left regarding social issues.

Communist_Soul

What exactly do you two mean by left on social issues? That doesn't make any sense.

Right handed! Right handed people live longer i heard. AussieePet

OMG YOU'VE CHANGED YOUR SIG. I've been susp for a week, whats the story behind that one? :lol:

I'm assuming he means that on social issues he usually supports the positions associated with leftist parties and the left in general. Basically things like supporting gay rights, abortion, the legalization of drugs etc.Cataclism

uhh no. Being left-wing has nothing do with liberalism (in the modern political sense of the word). Hell some of the most stanch left-wing advocates would even execute drug addicts on mass.

I use my left hand, but sometimes I switch to my right when I'm tired....codymcclain14

So you cut both wrists?

[QUOTE="codymcclain14"]I use my left hand, but sometimes I switch to my right when I'm tired....Ilovegames1992

So you cut both wrists?

[QUOTE="Cataclism"]I'm assuming he means that on social issues he usually supports the positions associated with leftist parties and the left in general. Basically things like supporting gay rights, abortion, the legalization of drugs etc.Socijalisticka

uhh no. Being left-wing has nothing do with liberalism (in the modern political sense of the word). Hell some of the most stanch left-wing advocates would even execute drug addicts on mass.

US political labels don't line up with international ones very well.

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[QUOTE="Cataclism"]I'm assuming he means that on social issues he usually supports the positions associated with leftist parties and the left in general. Basically things like supporting gay rights, abortion, the legalization of drugs etc.scoots9

uhh no. Being left-wing has nothing do with liberalism (in the modern political sense of the word). Hell some of the most stanch left-wing advocates would even execute drug addicts on mass.

US political labels don't line up with international ones very well.

Being a liberal, regardless of country, does not necessarily make one left-wing. In fact most American liberals are right-wing.

Right.

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uhh no. Being left-wing has nothing do with liberalism (in the modern political sense of the word). Hell some of the most stanch left-wing advocates would even execute drug addicts on mass.

Socijalisticka

US political labels don't line up with international ones very well.

Being a liberal, regardless of country, does not necessarily make one left-wing. In fact most American liberals are right-wing.

They're to the left of the GOP, though, which is why they are referred to as such here.

Toward the left. I think it's my best side.

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US political labels don't line up with international ones very well.

coolbeans90

Being a liberal, regardless of country, does not necessarily make one left-wing. In fact most American liberals are right-wing.

They're to the left of the GOP, though, which is why they are referred to as such here.

I wouldn't go that far either, seeing liberals and republicans often criss-cross in economic stances, not to mention you have your fair share of liberal and republican libertarians. The difference is usually in social issues, but they both still fall in the right-wing spectrum.

I wouldn't go that far either, seeing liberals and republicans often criss-cross in economic stances, not to mention you have your fair share of liberal and republican libertarians. The difference is usually in social issues, but they both still fall in the right-wing spectrum.

Socijalisticka

There isn't really anything in the way of criss-crossing WRT economics, not anymore. Sure, sometimes, on occasion, someone will jump across the aisle, but it would be difficult to make the case that any particular Democrat is more economically "conservative" (free market - once upon a time referred to as "liberal") than any particular Republican and vice versa. The party line on the GOP side is locked the f*ck down.

Regarding the social issues: Because of the fact that there are the likes of right-libertarians and socially conservative Democrats, it becomes useful to distinguish the social and economic stances. Granted, this is less so when discussing political candidates as outliers are relatively abnormal.

Hard to say. I talk a big game about right sided politics, but I am fairly liberal when it comes to social issues. I believe that gay people should be able to marry and should have rights. I respect religous minded people, but I think church and state should be separated. I like business, but I realize the need for some regulation. I think the government needs to regulate the excesses, but also stay out of the way on most other aspects of the economy. I'm not fond of taxes but I realize the need to increase or at least maintain revenues in the face of a rising debt. I want the government to cut spending, but I dont want them to cut vital programs. Not sure where that makes me fall.

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I wouldn't go that far either, seeing liberals and republicans often criss-cross in economic stances, not to mention you have your fair share of liberal and republican libertarians. The difference is usually in social issues, but they both still fall in the right-wing spectrum.

coolbeans90

There isn't really anything in the way of criss-crossing WRT economics, not anymore. Sure, sometimes, on occasion, someone will jump across the aisle, but it would be difficult to make the case that any particular Democrat is more economically "conservative" (free market - once upon a time referred to as "liberal") than any particular Republican and vice versa. The party line on the GOP side is locked the f*ck down.

Regarding the social issues: Because of the fact that there are the likes of right-libertarians and socially conservative Democrats, it becomes useful to distinguish the social and economic stances. Granted, this is less so when discussing political candidates as outliers are relatively abnormal.

I made the error of mistaking libertarianism in the economic and social sense. True, Republicans (of the modern conservative age) fall economically in the classical liberal category. I was just pointing out the fallacy of categorizing Democrats as leftwing (to call them more leftwing then Republicans isn't saying much as even facists are more left wing then Democrats.).

I made the error of mistaking libertarianism in the economic and social sense. True, Republicans fall economically in the classical liberal category. I was just pointing out the fallacy of categorizing Democrats as leftwing (to call them more leftwing then Republicans isn't saying much aseven facists are more leftwing then Democrats.).

Socijalisticka

I see what you are saying, but you have to take into consideration the narrow confines of American politics: shades of neoliberalism. Within that, political stances are defined, relatively, as left or right. The U.S. doesn't have a left-wing by international standards.

What exactly do you two mean by left on social issues? That doesn't make any sense.Socijalisticka

The U.S. doesn't have a left-wing by international standards.

coolbeans90

I differ on the need to make exceptions for American politics, but I'll agree to this.

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The U.S. doesn't have a left-wing by international standards.

Socijalisticka

I differ on the need to make exceptions for American politics, but I'll agree to this.

It is for the sake of expediency that the terminology is used the way it is.

The U.S. doesn't have a left-wing by international standards.

coolbeans90

It does, but it's only me and one other guy. We're actually actively recruiting women, it's somewhat of a sausagefest around here, and if those women happen to have enough money to get us into an election, well things could be looking up. City council, here we come!

[QUOTE="Socijalisticka"]What exactly do you two mean by left on social issues? That doesn't make any sense.foxhound_fox

And there exists a distinction between power structure and economics.

Since we aren't talking about masturbation I'm more of an independent though I mostly veer toward the right

Leftimaps3fanboy

I didn't really know, so I took an online quiz and I ended up much more to the right then I thought I would.

It says I'm culturally liberal though I'm not exactly sure what that pertains to....

I'm fairly centrist. Liberal with a few touches of socialism and libertarianism.

More of a rightie, but more specifically, right economically/fiscally, moderately left socially.

coolbeans90

Right, but i dont really care about political matters right now. Im not really voting for anybody (all candidates are terrible in my opinion). Also I never talk about my political opinions. Whenever i do, im usually surrounded by liberals who crucify me for not having the same beliefs as them.