Are you secretly kind of happy Israel is attacking Hamas?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="dbowman"]Hamas should have learnt by now that firing rockets into Israel is a really bad idea.Rainbow_Lion

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="snipzor"]

He won't do anything, and I will tell you why. The republicans. Now, this goes into the whole Obama presidency, where he is attempting to be bipartisan with the republicans (With the drawing up of the stimulus package) , and we all know how shifty eyed the republicans are. The second Obama shows any anger towards Israel (Or restraint for that matter), expect filibusters left-right and center.

Plus he is an American politician, he won't do anything. I think there are only one or two American politicians who hate the actions by Israel, one of which being Jimmy Carter (Who, despite what people say, has been reveered as being one of the best presidents in recent history). Did you see the whole backlash with Carter writing about the Apartheid committed by Israel? Violent, so nothing will be done by Obama, and that is a judgement call that so happens to be right.

/I am an Obama supporter by the way, just to clear up confusion

snipzor

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[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"]Just for anybody who would like to defend Israel I'd like to ask you exactly how many Isralies were killed by the rocket attacks during the ceasefire? You don't know because if you did then you wouldn't be defending Israel, but allow me to tell you then. It was none, yes NONE that's zero ziltch 0 Nil not any so go away and don't come back until you're ready to be sensible here I'd give you the figures of the Palestinian dead but there's so many that the people are probably too busy hiding from tanks and planes to count, oh and BTW Israel have killed more Isralies in this "war" than the palestinians have but of course you all know that because you're so knowledgeableRainbow_Lion

Actually, I have the number of Israelis who died since the ceasefire. You will cry about this, really, because it isn't that much. The exaggerated number of Hamas rockets do not take into account the damage by those same rockets.

4 Israelis have died.

[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Exactly. It's both frustrating that people condemn israel while hamas continue to play poke the bear, as well as frustrating that israel continually fall for obvious attempts to get them to react so that their allies and supporters will abandon them.sonicare

[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="snipzor"]

Actually, I have the number of Israelis who died since the ceasefire. You will cry about this, really, because it isn't that much. The exaggerated number of Hamas rockets do not take into account the damage by those same rockets.

4 Israelis have died.

snipzor

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"] If I was trapped in Gaza I'd probably fire rockets at Israel as well, it's a pretty common human reaction to being held captiveRainbow_Lion

[QUOTE="Rainbow_Lion"][QUOTE="sonicare"] And if I was having rockets fired at me, I'd probably retaliate. . . . .also a common human reaction to being attacked.sonicare

All I know is...

GAZA was conflict, and Israel pulled out, all people and settlements.

Gaza could have runned their country instead they fired missles on Israel, and goverment got taken over by a regime...Hamas.

I support Israel and I think it is about time they sent a clear message to people who hate them, they will not lay down and be walked over.

There is only so much a person/people can take.

So all the innocent people who died, all this out cry, where was the protesting for Israel when they children and young were killed?

Plus take a good look at who protests it.

Religion makes all blind, and then if that doesn't work, race does, and if that doesn't work class does, and if that doesn't work then male/female will work, and then if that doesn't work then sexual orientation in the mix.

No World Peace and No One Will get along, and frankly if the world was to die and start over that would be fine by me.

We ruin exploit, and pillage each other and the earth until it will be no more.

GOD I am so depressing.

Are you people serious? You think they are just killing Hamas? Do you have any idea how many innocent kids and women are being killed as well. Israel is starving everyone there by cutting off the food supply, and launching missiles like crazy. It's killing everyone, not just Hamas soldiers.lilburtonboy748

No I'm not secret about it at all

A nation that shells and attacks it's neighbor gets backed into a corner and now starts to cry what a bunch of.....well finish it the way you want.

I honestly hope every member of Hamas is killed and no I'm not rooting for Civilian Casualties but Hamas could end all this and get peace but they don't they always resume the conflict.

Secretly? I openly desire the eradication of Hamas and Palestine. Why? Because the area will never find peace until one side is destroyed and frankly Israel seems to be much more reasonable than the extremists.Tezcatlipoca666

Interesting read fellas,

Hamas deserves blame for Gaza.

Secretly no, openly yes

besides everyone knows that secretly the israeli prime minister is a palestinian by birth

I would be happy if that complete country is completely blown up, so all is left is a big sandbox. Their issues will NEVER get solved and it's getting irritating. Let out the people that just want to live peacefully and screw the rest.TheFlush

That is interesting

Happy? Absolutely not! There can be no kind of happiness when it comes to war. And it makes no difference in who is attacking who. Do you expect me to be happy that hundreds of innocent civilians are being killed for no absolute reason?Iqen

[QUOTE="Iqen"]Happy? Absolutely not! There can be no kind of happiness when it comes to war. And it makes no difference in who is attacking who. Do you expect me to be happy that hundreds of innocent civilians are being killed for no absolute reason?LJS9502_basic

It's essential. When oppossing forces build you must do something to cripple them and breakup moral. These types of conflicts aren't about win or lose, it's house cleaning.

More Humanitarian aid won't make the Hamas go away. You just don't get it. Many of the ongong problems that exist around the world are because countries keep compromising with these factions instead of striking them. When you see roots you kill em ASAP, but people allow it grow until it and it's roots are wrapped around everything.

Compromising with an enemy only gives them impression that their bullsquat is okay. They can do whatever they want because you let them. You allow it to continue because you allow them to survive. You defeat terrorists by being being more brutal than they are. If They can't behave of their own free will give them something to fear, hence the term counter-terrorism. People whom extort others aren't as tough as you think they are, they put on a good show but that's only because they know that people with a good nature fear everything. So showing mercy only encourages them. So... no mercy.

Groups like the Hamas need civilians because civillians are the variable that keeps them alive, they are their shield. So as long as long as they can't be targeted or identified as a danger they can continue to operate cloaked.

Your topic title is wrong.
Israel isn't attacking Hamas directly. Israel is attacking locations where they think the Hamas is hiding, killing hundreds of innocents along with some terrorists.
They don't mind killing civilians and don't even bother to avoid civilian casualties.

I'm obviously Anti-Israel

No way. Let's look at the chronology...

1. U.N. and Britain take land predominantly inhabited by Palestinians (even in Jerusalem) and create a 'Jewish state,' forcing many Palestinians tobe moved to their designated territories of Golan Heights, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip.

2. 2 years ago, Hamas is elected democratically in Gaza. In response, Israel blockades the Gaza Strip, killing thousands.

3. Hamas gets mad at Israel's crimes against humanity, and starts shooting rockets at border cities (I obviously don't condone ths type of violence, Hamas has since become a terrorist organization due to the provocations from Israel).

4. Today, Israel is launching a land assault against the Hamas rocketeers, but more than half of the casualties have been innocent civilians. The Palestinians and Israelies MUST come to a cease-fire agreement, and start peace talks helmed by the U.S., the U.N., and the surrounding Arab prescence (especially Egypt).

Interesting read fellas,

Hamas deserves blame for Gaza.

Stevo_the_gamer

Hey, everybody! Let's all base our views on the Gaza conflict on the commentary of a right wing, Zionist, Jewish commentator writing for a Jewish-owned newspaper!

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[QUOTE="esbastica"]it's not actually a secret about me,i'd fight for them honestly if i could.syorks1