As a Muslim...I dislike America

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

well obviously lol though it does happen but i dont think thats the problem...i is tlaking about iraq war :D

gamingqueen

Individuals sometimes do the wrong thing.....yes. And they are taken care of by the military. But the US military doesn't order civilian attacks...and not all perceived attacks are unjustified. As for the Iraq War.....whether one agreed with it or not...it was a legal war.

well it was a legal war if WMDs were there, American Gov new from the start that there were no WMDs but they just HAD to attack + look how they backed it all up...nowadays people just completely forget about WMDs...thx to the media...now all it seems is Shia and Sunni fighting each other with the American Army trying to make peace....but we all know thats not the case

Well aren't shias fighting with sunnas already in south lebanon and supporting the Syrian intervention in every little thing in Lebanon?

im talking about Iraq :|

ok then since you can't reply to me now allow me to ask to lock this topic.

As a MUSLIM user, I'm offended by this topic because you make us look bad. Our religion doesn't tell us to hate others and because of the serious generlisation you made up there.

errr i dont hate anyone lol I was talking about AMERICAN GOVERNMENT not the people...who was I hating on?

[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

But something being legal nationally doesn't mean it's legal according to international laws. The U.S. is the country with the most violations... AGAIN I BLAME THE ADMINISTRATION!

LJS9502_basic

We had some internation support...so no.

No. Had many warnings you mean right?

Either way... there's no need for this. There are greedy bastards among us too.

Don't you guys love how the topic creator still hasn't made another post? CommanderShiro

he ran and left me to save his a**

Either way... there's no need for this. There are greedy bastards among us too.

gamingqueen

who said there isnt? :D

What a completely uneducated opinion.

It's no mystery that the U.S. Government and military have not acted in the best interests of the U.S. people in MANY, MANY years. That's as ignorant a statement as me saying "I don't like Muslims because they want to blow me up." Our government does what they want regardless of popular opinion. That's why we're still fighting this "War".

Get a clue and keep your baseless political opinions off the internet.

No. Had many warnings you mean right?

gamingqueen

We weren't the only country over there. Facts are facts.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="faisal123456"]

I do not like america mainly due to the fact of them commiting war crimes. There are many videos of them just shooting civilians for fun. Then they use that bait and attack thing. Not only are they in Iraq only for the oil but literily have become the biggest terrorists.

mingo123

None of which is true......way to make uniformed decisions.:|

how is that not true...you just dont get it do you...do you even know how many people have died BECAUSE of U.S. Forces going in Iraq? first they say teh WMDs oh noezzz and they attack Iraq.....then no WMDS so they create all the violence THEMSELVES to back up there decision of going in Iraq and then act like they are teh saviours (rofl reminds of that powerpuff girls episode in which a hero named Captain America (i think) causes all the trouble and then finishes the trouble himself to claim the credit) + they steal plenty of oil as well lol tell me how many people were dying BEFORE U.S. army went in Iraq and tell me how many Iraqis are dying now......but wait ur gonna say "buh buh shia and teh sunnay are killing each otha and america is teh peacemaka" so ok ummmm i think Shia and sunni did exists before U.S. Army went to Iraq and i dont think there was violence like.....the reason shia and sunni are fighting now is coz America wants them to fight.....American gov bombs Shia mosque and shia think sunni did that and so they start fighting....this is polititcs :D

Edit: sorry for the wall of txt

that was worst thing I have ever heard. The primary reason the factions are fighting is because they want to attain power or not to lose it.

[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

No. Had many warnings you mean right?

LJS9502_basic

We weren't the only country over there. Facts are facts.

Of course you weren't! Along with the country that started every single war in the world... Anyways...

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

No. Had many warnings you mean right?

gamingqueen

We weren't the only country over there. Facts are facts.

Of course you weren't! Along with the country that started every single war in the world... Anyways...

...wut?

I do not like america mainly due to the fact of them commiting war crimes. There are many videos of them just shooting civilians for fun. Then they use that bait and attack thing. Not only are they in Iraq only for the oil but literily have become the biggest terrorists.

By the way i Live in Canada and from Pakistan which is a very strong US Allie. In school we were literely thought to love the west and embrace their culture but instead i think i can think for my self.

faisal123456

Things like this, i highly reccomend you keep to yourself

Of course you weren't! Along with the country that started every single war in the world... Anyways...

gamingqueen

Whatever that means....anyway it disproves your theory. Whether the war was popular or not...it wasn't illegal. Now I have to go to work.....

[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

Of course you weren't! Along with the country that started every single war in the world... Anyways...

LJS9502_basic

Whatever that means....anyway it disproves your theory. Whether the war was popular or not...it wasn't illegal. Now I have to go to work.....

You can't tell a law person what's legal and what's not ;)

Too bad you don't know what that meant.

First off, you're making a sweeping statement. Don't be judgemental towards on race/religion/country just because a part of them has done something wrong.

Yes, I can say America has received a lot of flak due to the invasion of Iraq. I agree that they should, since its creating more problems. But doesn't mean you must hate the country. I am sure there are A LOT of Americans going against the war.

Thats like me saying I don't like Muslims because there all terrorists who like to blow up stuff.

Don't make generalisations based on a few people.

I do not like america mainly due to the fact of them commiting war crimes. There are many videos of them just shooting civilians for fun. Then they use that bait and attack thing. Not only are they in Iraq only for the oil but literily have become the biggest terrorists.

faisal123456

So you judge the entire american race based on what you've seen in videos?!

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="faisal123456"]

I do not like america mainly due to the fact of them commiting war crimes. There are many videos of them just shooting civilians for fun. Then they use that bait and attack thing. Not only are they in Iraq only for the oil but literily have become the biggest terrorists.

Luminouslight

None of which is true......way to make uniformed decisions.:|

how is that not true...you just dont get it do you...do you even know how many people have died BECAUSE of U.S. Forces going in Iraq? first they say teh WMDs oh noezzz and they attack Iraq.....then no WMDS so they create all the violence THEMSELVES to back up there decision of going in Iraq and then act like they are teh saviours (rofl reminds of that powerpuff girls episode in which a hero named Captain America (i think) causes all the trouble and then finishes the trouble himself to claim the credit) + they steal plenty of oil as well lol tell me how many people were dying BEFORE U.S. army went in Iraq and tell me how many Iraqis are dying now......but wait ur gonna say "buh buh shia and teh sunnay are killing each otha and america is teh peacemaka" so ok ummmm i think Shia and sunni did exists before U.S. Army went to Iraq and i dont think there was violence like.....the reason shia and sunni are fighting now is coz America wants them to fight.....American gov bombs Shia mosque and shia think sunni did that and so they start fighting....this is polititcs :D

Edit: sorry for the wall of txt

that was worst thing I have ever heard. The primary reason the factions are fighting is because they want to attain power or not to lose it.

you dont get it, why werent these factions fighting before U.S. army went there :|

-scratches head-

this thread still hasnt been locked yet?

[QUOTE="faisal123456"]

I do not like america mainly due to the fact of them commiting war crimes. There are many videos of them just shooting civilians for fun. Then they use that bait and attack thing. Not only are they in Iraq only for the oil but literily have become the biggest terrorists.

FearTheRain

So you judge the entire american race based on what you've seen in videos?!

...the American race?

Some of you must have BOMBED your High School Civics and Government classes. I seriously doubt many of those who claim to be Muslim even know the history of their religion. MANY uneducated posts are being made in here. Some of our "budding theologists" need to do a lot more studying.

There has been fighting in the Middle East for THOUSANDS of years. Religious factions have always fought over there and they continue to do so today. The Sunni and SHIITE Muslims (I don't know where this other Muslim faction that is being referred to comes from, there are only 2 Muslim factions as founded my Mohammed). Islam was founded in the 7th century, AFTER Christianity, yet fighting in the middle east existed before that. The Sunnis and the Shiites started fighting in the 7th century and it started when the 2 factions couldn't agree on who would lead the Islamic faith. Sunni Muslims represent about 90% of the Muslim faith. Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden are Sunni Muslims. The Sunnis primarily live in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon, countries that have a troubled history with the U.S.

Lebanese Muslims and Jewish state Isreal have been fighting for a long time, but I see no one has referenced that. America has NOTHING to do with these battles, but we became involved because Isreal is one of our allies.

The Islam Al Qaeda follows is a bastardized version of what Mohammed intended. Al Qaeda teaches that anyone who is not a Sunni Muslim is an infidel, EVEN the Shiites. This is not what Mohammed taught. Islam is a peaceful religion by nature. These followers believe that we and anyone who occupies territory in their lands are desecrating their holy land and should be punished by death. Mohammed taught peace, these people are promoting war. For whatever reason our Government decided to enter this war, it has become crystal clear it is not what the majority of Americans want.

Those of you who don't know what you are talking about should stop trying to act like you do. That is how these problems start in the first place. Lies and misinformation spread quickly and ignorance breeds hatred. You're not only making yourselves look like fools, but you're insulting the true followers of Islam.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

No. Had many warnings you mean right?

gamingqueen

We weren't the only country over there. Facts are facts.

Of course you weren't! Along with the country that started every single war in the world... Anyways...

I had no intention of even replying to this topic since the whole thing is a gross generalisation, but it kinda bugs me to see how at first you fault someone for generalizing, yet now you yourself do the very same thing. As much as I disagree with the war in Iraq (I still think the Dutch goverment made the dumbest decision ever by joining them), you can't blame one country for every war that's happened in the world.

I don't think a bunch of internet videos show what the USA is. I think the best way to find out what is truly going on is to maybe visit Iraq and talk with the civilians.

on a diffrent note.

[QUOTE="gamingqueen"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

No. Had many warnings you mean right?

Kazona

We weren't the only country over there. Facts are facts.

Of course you weren't! Along with the country that started every single war in the world... Anyways...

I had no intention of even replying to this topic since the whole thing is a gross generalisation, but it kinda bugs me to see how at first you fault someone for generalizing, yet now you yourself do the very same thing. As much as I disagree with the war in Iraq (I still think the Dutch goverment made the dumbest decision ever by joining them), you can't blame one country for every war that's happened in the world.

I didn't mean by that the US! the Us was shown as a power after ww2 and it's a new country!... I meant other countries!

I do not like america mainly due to the fact of them commiting war crimes. There are many videos of them just shooting civilians for fun. Then they use that bait and attack thing. Not only are they in Iraq only for the oil but literily have become the biggest terrorists.

By the way i Live in Canada and from Pakistan which is a very strong US Allie. In school we were literely thought to love the west and embrace their culture but instead i think i can think for my self.

faisal123456

damn terrorist lol (just kiddin no harm meant) well i hate china so i guess you have the right to hate usishoturface

B...b...but they make McDonalds Happy Meal Toys! :o

[QUOTE="West123"]

Every body think this war isnt hurting America the longer it takes before USA can invade Iran the worse it is for the American people...they could lose there world super power status in the next 10 yrs.... Hello CHINA

mingo123

it dosnt stop at Iran, Syria is next then some other Muslim country....and from Afghanistan they will move in Pakistan (nooooooooo my country!!!!)

whatever dude. Your exercising your 1st ammendment rights...that's fine with me.

I'd, personally, move to France or Germany. It's beautiful down there and I'd also likely live an extra 10 years...the girls are gorgeous as well.

I do not like america mainly due to the fact of them commiting war crimes. There are many videos of them just shooting civilians for fun. Then they use that bait and attack thing. Not only are they in Iraq only for the oil but literily have become the biggest terrorists.

By the way i Live in Canada and from Pakistan which is a very strong US Allie. In school we were literely thought to love the west and embrace their culture but instead i think i can think for my self.

faisal123456

so you hate america because of the military??? can you explain in better detail how the military rpresents the american people??? befroe you tell me, you do realize there are plenty of americans who were, and still are, against the war in iraq right???

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="faisal123456"]

I do not like america mainly due to the fact of them commiting war crimes. There are many videos of them just shooting civilians for fun. Then they use that bait and attack thing. Not only are they in Iraq only for the oil but literily have become the biggest terrorists.

mingo123

None of which is true......way to make uniformed decisions.:|

how is that not true...you just dont get it do you...do you even know how many people have died BECAUSE of U.S. Forces going in Iraq? first they say teh WMDs oh noezzz and they attack Iraq.....then no WMDS so they create all the violence THEMSELVES to back up there decision of going in Iraq and then act like they are teh saviours (rofl reminds of that powerpuff girls episode in which a hero named Captain America (i think) causes all the trouble and then finishes the trouble himself to claim the credit) + they steal plenty of oil as well lol tell me how many people were dying BEFORE U.S. army went in Iraq and tell me how many Iraqis are dying now......but wait ur gonna say "buh buh shia and teh sunnay are killing each otha and america is teh peacemaka" so ok ummmm i think Shia and sunni did exists before U.S. Army went to Iraq and i dont think there was violence like.....the reason shia and sunni are fighting now is coz America wants them to fight.....American gov bombs Shia mosque and shia think sunni did that and so they start fighting....this is polititcs :D

Edit: sorry for the wall of txt

That is completey true and whensome Americans reply to this they will say we did it becuase Iraq started it. NO, the U.S. started everything! If you tell the U.S you have done something wrong, they think it is right. Also, if someone else does somenthing wrong, the Americans go crazy about it. ALL YOU AMERCIANS OUT THERE, DONT DECLINE THIS BECUASE YOU KNOW IT IS TRUE!!!

By the way, I am form the middle east. So I am with you pakistines. Just for background I am CHRISTIAN.

The US is the least of the Muslims in the middleast's problems. Before they can be taken seriously they need to stop killing each other. The vast majority of the deaths in Iraq are MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMs.

The US isn't going out and murdering civilians, that's what the shiites and Sunnis are doing to each other.

The US is the least of the Muslims in the middleast's problems. Before they can be taken seriously they need to stop killing each other. The vast majority of the deaths in Iraq are MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMs.

The US isn't going out and murdering civilians, that's what the shiites and Sunnis are doing to each other.

Donkey_Puncher

no its Shia killing Sunnis and vice versa....fight for what is right and thats what both of them are doing (though sunni are the right ones roflcoppter ) ;)

The US is the least of the Muslims in the middleast's problems. Before they can be taken seriously they need to stop killing each other. The vast majority of the deaths in Iraq are MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMs.

The US isn't going out and murdering civilians, that's what the shiites and Sunnis are doing to each other.

Donkey_Puncher

Some of you must have BOMBED your High School Civics and Government classes. I seriously doubt many of those who claim to be Muslim even know the history of their religion. MANY uneducated posts are being made in here. Some of our "budding theologists" need to do a lot more studying.

There has been fighting in the Middle East for THOUSANDS of years. Religious factions have always fought over there and they continue to do so today. The Sunni and SHIITE Muslims (I don't know where this other Muslim faction that is being referred to comes from, there are only 2 Muslim factions as founded my Mohammed). Islam was founded in the 7th century, AFTER Christianity, yet fighting in the middle east existed before that. The Sunnis and the Shiites started fighting in the 7th century and it started when the 2 factions couldn't agree on who would lead the Islamic faith. Sunni Muslims represent about 90% of the Muslim faith. Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden are Sunni Muslims. The Sunnis primarily live in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon, countries that have a troubled history with the U.S.

Lebanese Muslims and Jewish state Isreal have been fighting for a long time, but I see no one has referenced that. America has NOTHING to do with these battles, but we became involved because Isreal is one of our allies.

The Islam Al Qaeda follows is a bastardized version of what Mohammed intended. Al Qaeda teaches that anyone who is not a Sunni Muslim is an infidel, EVEN the Shiites. This is not what Mohammed taught. Islam is a peaceful religion by nature. These followers believe that we and anyone who occupies territory in their lands are desecrating their holy land and should be punished by death. Mohammed taught peace, these people are promoting war. For whatever reason our Government decided to enter this war, it has become crystal clear it is not what the majority of Americans want.

Those of you who don't know what you are talking about should stop trying to act like you do. That is how these problems start in the first place. Lies and misinformation spread quickly and ignorance breeds hatred. You're not only making yourselves look like fools, but you're insulting the true followers of Islam.

bluedevil64

that was the beginning, the reason why sunni hate shia is because Shia believe Quran is NOT complete and the remaining part of Quran will be brought by Imam Mehdi or when Jesus returns but thats not the case coz Quran is COMPLETE as we all know....this just makes Shia a non-Muslim...its like saying bible isnt complete...also shia give way to much credit to Imam Hussan and disrespect Imam Mavia or whatever his name was lol....there is much more to sunni and shia then just the leader and stuff.....

Edit: other things Shia did....Murder Khalifa Ali (the same person they think should have been leader)....didnt Khalifa Ali declare war against Shia because Shia were ADDING stuff to Islam from themselves?

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/is_shia_kafir.htm